980Ti performing worse than 960

[Simonsen]

Hey

 

Last August I bought a used 980Ti and swapped it out for my 960. Ever since then my computer has been performing worse in certain games eg: Overwatch and CS:GO. However in The Witcher 3 i can run everything on ultra and still get above 60FPS

 

I bought the 980Ti because I have a 144hz monitor. I really don't care about the graphics so in most FPS games i run everything at low settings to get atleast 144fps

 

In Overwatch my settings are everything set to low/off with 75% render scale. In teamfights where the framerate matters, i get around 90 fps. My 960 used to get around 120 with the same settings. 

 

Same thing goes for CSGO, much lower framerate than what i used to get.

 

UserBenchmarks: Game 90%, Desk 66%, Work 47%
CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 - 74.1%
GPU: Nvidia GTX 980 Ti - 99.7%
SSD: Samsung PM810 2.5" 7mm 128GB - 47.9%
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB - 115.3%
RAM: Kingston HyperX DDR4 3200 C18 2x8GB - 67.9%
MBD: Asus B150M-A

My PSU is a VS550 from Corsair. I know it's bad but my system was a prebuilt system 4 years ago. They cheaped out on the PSU

 

Ram is being bottlenecked by my mobo because it only supports up to 2133Mhz

 

I formatted everything today and re-installed Windows on my SSD just to absolutely make sure there's nothing wrong with a driver or something like that.

 

Is my GPU being bottlenecked by my processor? Do I have to invest in a better mobo/CPU? Perhaps i need a more powerful PSU? I'm running out of ideas here. I'd love some help

 

 

[3 Lions]

This definitely sounds like the CPU is bottlenecking the GPU, try and look for either a used i7 6700 or i7 7700 on Ebay.  

[Jurrunio]

High frame rates hammer the CPU as much as the GPU, so the weak CPU is your problem. With i7s prices standing up firmly, better upgrade the entire platform. Most games want single core performance anyway and you're not getting that with a locked intel 6th or 7th gen CPU.

[Princess Luna]

Indeed the only CPU I'd upgrade to would be the i7 7700 or even the i7 7700K despite not having OC, just for the higher clocks... but the cost is so high... when an i7 7700K costs the same as an i7 8700 it's better grab the i7 8700 on a b360 and call it a day.

[mxk]

Better GPU =/= way more FPS

[Tsuki]

cpu could very well be the bottleneck, but i highly recommend running DDU and reinstalling your drivers before going out and spending more money.

 

do note that overwatch, and especially cs:go, are cpu heavy games.  they dont rely much on your gpu, so you shouldnt expect an increase to fps with a new gpu.

[Simonsen]

Alright. I guess it's just a bottleneck. That was one of my suspicions, because in The Witcher 3 i get 60+fps on Ultra where as my 960 couldnt do that at all

 

But it's still pretty weird though. I get that in theory it shouldn't increase by a lot but surely it shouldn't decrease in performance either?  

[lloose]

I don’t know why people are saying it’s a cpu bottleneck. Cpu bottlenecks aren’t going to make a 980ti perform worse than a 960. 

 

Id take a look at your data again first. Make sure you aren’t remembering things differently than they are. Run benches on the 960 and then the exact same on the 980ti. Make sure to use DDU when you swap cards or else you’re going to run into issues. 

[xAcid9]

Lmao, people are quick to point out CPU bottleneck especially when it's on 4 cores or lower CPU. Highly doubt that is the culprit.
If your CPU can handle 960 with 120 min fps then it should be able to hold the same min fps with 980 Ti.

[GAMINGGUY]

1 hour ago, Simonsen said:

Hey

 

Last August I bought a used 980Ti and swapped it out for my 960. Ever since then my computer has been performing worse in certain games eg: Overwatch and CS:GO. However in The Witcher 3 i can run everything on ultra and still get above 60FPS

 

I bought the 980Ti because I have a 144hz monitor. I really don't care about the graphics so in most FPS games i run everything at low settings to get atleast 144fps

 

In Overwatch my settings are everything set to low/off with 75% render scale. In teamfights where the framerate matters, i get around 90 fps. My 960 used to get around 120 with the same settings. 

 

Same thing goes for CSGO, much lower framerate than what i used to get.

 

UserBenchmarks: Game 90%, Desk 66%, Work 47%
CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 - 74.1%
GPU: Nvidia GTX 980 Ti - 99.7%
SSD: Samsung PM810 2.5" 7mm 128GB - 47.9%
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB - 115.3%
RAM: Kingston HyperX DDR4 3200 C18 2x8GB - 67.9%
MBD: Asus B150M-A

My PSU is a VS550 from Corsair. I know it's bad but my system was a prebuilt system 4 years ago. They cheaped out on the PSU

 

Ram is being bottlenecked by my mobo because it only supports up to 2133Mhz

 

I formatted everything today and re-installed Windows on my SSD just to absolutely make sure there's nothing wrong with a driver or something like that.

 

Is my GPU being bottlenecked by my processor? Do I have to invest in a better mobo/CPU? Perhaps i need a more powerful PSU? I'm running out of ideas here. I'd love some help

 

 

For sure a bottleneck. I would get an i7 6700 or 6700k, that would almost certainly fix your issue.

[Brennan Price]

Ok, I have no idea why people are mentioning CPU bottleneck, if it could handle the 960 and get more FPS, there is not a bottleneck with the 980Ti. I put it down to power draw. The 960 draws less power and hence the 550W PSU you use can supply the whole of your builds power just fine. The 980Ti, on the other hand, uses more power and as such cannot power your system now with the 980Ti installed instead. 

 

Upgrade your power supply to a good 650W or 700W and see where that gets you. Don't bother spending the money on newer CPU/mobo etc when it is most likely your PSU. I've had this same kind of issue with an HD 5850 vs a GTX 780. 780 gave me worse results as it couldn't get enough power. If you need more explaining on this I am happy to do so. 

[Simonsen]

I have always considered upgrading my PSU before anything else. I will try tomorrow with a 850w PSU to test my luck. My PSU is pretty old and according to the tier list it's also one of the worser ones you can get. 

 

I didn't use DDU before swapping but i did use it after I swapped the cards. Even if something did go wrong, wouldn't using DDU fix the issue even though i ran it after installing the new video card?

I also tried it one more time before I re-installed windows earlier today but with no luck.

 

Let's hope it's inadequate power to the GPU..

I'm still open for suggestions!

[xAcid9]

12 hours ago, Simonsen said:

I have always considered upgrading my PSU before anything else. I will try tomorrow with a 850w PSU to test my luck. My PSU is pretty old and according to the tier list it's also one of the worser ones you can get. 

 

Let's hope it's inadequate power to the GPU..

I'm still open for suggestions!

You can try set the card power limit to 70% or something, and then use GPU-Z to check the performance cap reason.

[Simonsen]

On 3/21/2019 at 8:30 AM, xAcid9 said:

You can try set the card power limit to 70% or something, and then use GPU-Z to check the performance cap reason.

I tried this but only ended up with a blackscreen after a while

[Brennan Price]

On 3/20/2019 at 7:11 PM, Simonsen said:

I have always considered upgrading my PSU before anything else. I will try tomorrow with a 850w PSU to test my luck. My PSU is pretty old and according to the tier list it's also one of the worser ones you can get. 

 

I didn't use DDU before swapping but i did use it after I swapped the cards. Even if something did go wrong, wouldn't using DDU fix the issue even though i ran it after installing the new video card?

I also tried it one more time before I re-installed windows earlier today but with no luck.

 

Let's hope it's inadequate power to the GPU..

I'm still open for suggestions!

How did using a different PSU go? Better or worse results?