First time builder looking for some advice

[Sprinkles]

Just now, fasauceome said:

You came to the right place.

I figured

[Eastman51]

1 minute ago, Turtle Rig said:

Yes ASUS Prime x299 is for the 9980XE and their HEDT line.  Differences are many, main one being it offers quad channel 8 slots and has quality VRMs and components.

Doesn't Asus have an ROG X299 board?

Though the PRIME X299 is definitely a good board, its for a totally different socket type and targets enthusiasts and people who need extremely high end gear. Maximus is the high-end 'normal' socket board

[Turtle Rig]

6 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Don't forget, more money doesn't always mean better. Like I said, NVMe isn't a tangible benefit, for an m.2 SSD more suitable you could check out the 860 evo. Also, the formula gold is rated higher than the G3 on our forum's PSU tier list, click my PSU in my signature for more info.

To counter fasauceome I see or saw zero difference going from 850 pro as main drive and going with m.2  .  Only benchmarks show its 2500mbps read but loading stuff in games or working on my DAW I see zero difference, the only thing is its very tiny and small chip and it does get really hot compared to a SSD.  I mean really hot ,, SSD's can go into low 20's and teens celcious.  But a m.2 on peoples system usually sits at 40c or so.  But I researched this and it says upt o 70c the m.2 will work and not break a sweat.

[Fasauceome]

Just now, Turtle Rig said:

To counter

To counter? It does sound like you agree though, instead of disagree, unless I'm missing something 

[Bajantechnician]

10 minutes ago, Sprinkles said:

You see, funny thing. I haven't watched the what is hyperthreading video yet so I'm unable to answer that

the easy way to explain it is that it splits each physical core into 2.

 

example

 

Core 1 (out of 8 or 6 or whatever, they all do this)

-------------

60% usage

-------------

 

it takes it then says alright, split it

Core 1(physical).         Core 1(virtual)

---------------               ----------------

60% usage.                 40% non-usage

---------------               ----------------

 

It then puts load on the 40% non used core to fully use the entire core.

 

Core 1(physical).         Core 1(virtual)

---------------               ----------------

60% usage.                 40% usage

---------------               ----------------

 

It doesn't always scale to 100% though, depending on the application. 100% usage on every single core, physical or virtual will cause your computer to hang. Every physical core will do this. so 8C, 16T, or 6C, 12T or whatever

 

A vid will explain it better than me  Look for techquickie

[Sprinkles]

1 minute ago, Bajantechnician said:

the easy way to explain it is that it splits each physical core into 2.

 

example

 

Core 1 (out of 8 or 6 or whatever, they all do this)

-------------

60% usage

-------------

 

it takes it then says alright, split it

Core 1(physical).         Core 1(virtual)

---------------               ----------------

60% usage.                 40% non-usage

---------------               ----------------

 

It then puts load on the 40% non used core to fully use the entire core.

 

Core 1(physical).         Core 1(virtual)

---------------               ----------------

60% usage.                 40% usage

---------------               ----------------

 

It doesn't always scale to 100% though, depending on the application. 100% usage on every single core, physical or virtual will cause your computer to hang. Every physical core will do this. so 8C, 16T, or 6C, 12T or whatever

 

A vid will explain it better than me  Look for techquickie

Would you recommend that I went for a core with hyperthreading like the 8700k or what would be my best choice in your opinion? I'm open for suggestions

[Bajantechnician]

2 minutes ago, Sprinkles said:

Would you recommend that I went for a core with hyperthreading like the 8700k or what would be my best choice in your opinion? I'm open for suggestions

For ME personally, ill use the threads as I edit pictures and video and threads help to speed up exports. However, if you're just gaming only, I see no need to spend extra money on a feature you'll never use. Between a 9600k and an 8700k, i PERSONALLY would take the 8700k simply because it does hyperthread to 12 threads. (9600k doesn't support HT) Single core performance and the price is around the same (depending on where you get it)  If you're up for it too, you can OC the 8700k. For gaming only, get the 9600k since you won't use the threads

 

TL;DR:

Gaming only: won't use the threads, so get a 9600k, save ~~$80. Gaming uses 1 core usually, HT will have no effect

Gaming/working on multithreaded stuff: get a 8700k. Spend ~~$80 for HT, which you WILL use for multithreaded stuff

 

[Sprinkles]

31 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kZPKHx/evga-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-11gb-xc-gaming-video-card-11g-p4-2382-kr

 

$1200, so $200 less than what you're quoting. That's with free shipping too. 

The thing is I live in Denmark and with our tax system the prices are WAAAAAAY different from the ones you guys are finding. The MSI Trio Gaming is $1050 and the 2080 Ti prices start around $1500. This also means that the MSI card isnt actually overpriced here compared to other cards. I'm not entirely sure if it's up there performance wise compared to other cards but from a price point of view it's not too bad for me compared to an ASUS card

[Sprinkles]

3 minutes ago, Bajantechnician said:

For ME personally, ill use the threads as I edit pictures and video and threads help to speed up exports. However, if you're just gaming only, I see no need to spend extra money on a feature you'll never use. Between a 9600k and an 8700k, i PERSONALLY would take the 8700k simply because it does hyperthread to 12 threads. (9600k doesn't support HT) Single core performance and the price is around the same (depending on where you get it)  If you're up for it too, you can OC the 8700k. For gaming only, get the 9600k since you won't use the threads

 

TL;DR:

Gaming only: won't use the threads, so get a 9600k, save ~~$80. Gaming uses 1 core usually, HT will have no effect

Gaming/working on multithreaded stuff: get a 8700k. Spend ~~$80 for HT, which you WILL use for multithreaded stuff

 

I plan on OC but would it be stupid if I went for the 9700k rather than the 8700k?

[Sprinkles]

49 minutes ago, xg32 said:

there's no need to go with a 5400rpm drive

 

https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-BarraCuda-Internal-3-5-Inch-ST2000DM006/dp/B071WLPRHN/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=hdd&qid=1550858629&s=gateway&sr=8-4&th=1

 

that 2080 is overpriced unless you are going for looks, for 200 more than the 2080 trio you can get a 2080 ti black

 

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-2081-KR

 

for psu the g2 is better but 20dollars more atm

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IKDETOC/ref=twister_B01LXKQ07C?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

 

For z390 motherboard, just pick anything from the gigabyte lineup or the taichi that's on sale atm. Most asus boards are downgraded this generation for cost savings on their part.

 

The thing is I live in Denmark and with our tax system the prices are WAAAAAAY different from the ones you guys are finding. The MSI Trio Gaming is $1050 and the 2080 Ti prices start around $1500. This also means that the MSI card isnt actually overpriced here compared to other cards. I'm not entirely sure if it's up there performance wise compared to other cards but from a price point of view it's not too bad for me compared to an ASUS card

[Sprinkles]

42 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

The cheapest 2080Ti I have seen is the EVGA almost 1385 dollars so basically 1400 dollars.  You can't buy a 2080Ti for 1100 dollars,, minimum is 1300 dollars on vanilla model.

The thing is I live in Denmark and with our tax system the prices are WAAAAAAY different from the ones you guys are finding. The MSI Trio Gaming is $1050 and the 2080 Ti prices start around $1500. This also means that the MSI card isnt actually overpriced here compared to other cards. I'm not entirely sure if it's up there performance wise compared to other cards but from a price point of view it's not too bad for me compared to an ASUS card

[Bajantechnician]

4 minutes ago, Sprinkles said:

I plan on OC but would it be stupid if I went for the 9700k rather than the 8700k?

It depends. Ill is essentially the same for gaming only. Its not like a 8700K will become obsolete way before a 9700k. Itll last you a way whiles.

3 minutes ago, Sprinkles said:

The thing is I live in Denmark and with our tax system the prices are WAAAAAAY different from the ones you guys are finding. The MSI Trio Gaming is $1050 and the 2080 Ti prices start around $1500. This also means that the MSI card isnt actually overpriced here compared to other cards. I'm not entirely sure if it's up there performance wise compared to other cards but from a price point of view it's not too bad for me compared to an ASUS card

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