I7 3960X vs RyZen 1600X

[freakynoid]

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What would you choose?

 

Intel Core I7 3960X [6C / 12T | @4.5 Ghz]

ASUS Rampage IV Extreme

Corsair Vengeance 32GB [DDR3 @1600Mhz]

 

Or

 

AMD RyZen 5 1600X [6C / 12T | @4 Ghz]

Gigabyte GA-A320M-S2H

Ballistix Sport LT 8GB [DDR4 @2400Mhz]

 

Mostly for gaming and video editing

 

PLEASE DONT RECOMMEND ME ANOTHER BUILD OR SOMETHING,

I ONLY WANT TO KNOW WHICH ONE YOU WOULD CHOOSE

[Dissitesuxba11s]

1600X. Why are you even considering the 3960X?

[freakynoid]

3 minutes ago, Dissitesuxba11s said:

1600X. Why are you even considering the 3960X?

Bcs of the Board

[Dedayog]

4 minutes ago, Dissitesuxba11s said:

1600X. Why are you even considering the 3960X?

He's most likely looking at surface info.... 6c/12t at 4.5GHz is faster than 4Ghz without knowing other stuffs.

 

Get the 1600X, lots more under the hood than just clock speed.

 

And... I guessed wrong   It's an older beast board but many improvements have come down the pipe over the year, the Ryzen will outperform it for your needs.

[Zando_]

Personally? The 3960X cause I'm an Intel X series chipset boi (on X58 rn, plan to get some X79 and X99 stuff soonish). 

 

As far as logical choices go? 1600X for sure, get a good mobo and you should be able to upgrade to Zen 2 in the future if you can afford it, and it's already a beastly CPU straight out of the box. The R5 1600 I had OCed to 4Ghz easily and kept darn cool on just a 120mm AIO, I forget what the stock speed of the 1600X is but you'd likely be able to push it a bit more. 

[Dissitesuxba11s]

1 minute ago, sandrowiedner said:

Bcs of the Board

I guess if you have the budget for $1000 CPU then pick the 3960X. But if you do choose the 1600X, get a better motherboard.

 

1 minute ago, jstudrawa said:

He's most likely looking at surface info.... 6c/12t at 4.5GHz is faster than 4Ghz without knowing other stuffs.

 

Get the 1600X, lots more under the hood than just clock speed.

Yea, I had a feeling that would be the case.

[BobVonBob]

Take it from someone already stuck on the X79 platform, the tiny amount of extra performance isn't worth having no upgrade path without replacing CPU, Mobo, and RAM.

 

[DildorTheDecent]

>1600X

>A320 motherboard

 

This has be a prank.

[freakynoid]

8 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

He's most likely looking at surface info.... 6c/12t at 4.5GHz is faster than 4Ghz without knowing other stuffs.

 

Get the 1600X, lots more under the hood than just clock speed.

 

And... I guessed wrong   It's an older beast board but many improvements have come down the pipe over the year, the Ryzen will outperform it for your needs.

-"without knowing other stuffs" I7-3960X is running @ 3,9 ghz.i would have to oc it and i think 4.5ghz is possible

[TrueMegaManiac]

Interesting thought. Memory bandwidth with DDR3 4 channel vs DDR4 2 Channel is similar enough. If you get a good enough cooler the 3960X will be able to beat the 1600X's IPC with raw clocks. However the AM4 platform will have far better upgradability with Zen 2/Ryzen 3000 coming within the next couple months. Best you can get on X79 is the Xeon e5 1680 which is 8C 16T but resellers charge way too damn much for how old they are but they are overclockable on x79 using multiplier unlike the e5 2000 xeons.

 

With price being equal I would go for the 1600x solely for upgradability or "Future proofing"

 

If you want, would be a good idea to look a tech yes city's comparison betwee the 2700X, 1680, and 9900K. Knock a couple cores off of each and you have a fairly good idea where 1600X vs 3960X lie.

[SolarNova]

Ryzen 1600x.

 

Newer platform, though its a shame the motherboard is the limit. Still has more upgradability though as it has the DDR4.

The 3960xwith its 4.5ghz OC would be more powerfull though.

 

Now if u were a person already running the 3960X, ofc i would say stick the the 3960X. Sandybridge is still perfectly usable...kinda goes without saying considering the 3960x and 1600x perform close to each other stock for stock.

 

BTW the 3960X should easily be able to go beyond 4.5ghz, my own 3930k has been runing 4.6ghz since the day i got it soon after release, and im sure it could hit 4.8 to 5ghz if i pushed it.

[XR6]

3960X just because of the Ryzen having an A320 board and less RAM.

The 3960X performs similarly to the 1600X anyway.

[freakynoid]

10 minutes ago, TrueMegaManiac said:

Interesting thought. Memory bandwidth with DDR3 4 channel vs DDR4 2 Channel is similar enough. If you get a good enough cooler the 3960X will be able to beat the 1600X's IPC with raw clocks. However the AM4 platform will have far better upgradability with Zen 2/Ryzen 3000 coming within the next couple months. Best you can get on X79 is the Xeon e5 1680 which is 8C 16T but resellers charge way too damn much for how old they are but they are overclockable on x79 using multiplier unlike the e5 2000 xeons.

 

With price being equal I would go for the 1600x solely for upgradability or "Future proofing"

 

If you want, would be a good idea to look a tech yes city's comparison betwee the 2700X, 1680, and 9900K. Knock a couple cores off of each and you have a fairly good idea where 1600X vs 3960X lie.

The reason that i even have this idea:

 

A friend would sell me the CPU and Mainboard for 250€

[i_build_nanosuits]

44 minutes ago, sandrowiedner said:

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What would you choose?

 

Intel Core I7 3960X [6C / 12T | @4.5 Ghz]

ASUS Rampage IV Extreme

Corsair Vengeance 32GB [DDR3 @1600Mhz]

 

Or

 

AMD RyZen 5 1600X [6C / 12T | @4 Ghz]

Gigabyte GA-A320M-S2H

Ballistix Sport LT 8GB [DDR4 @2400Mhz]

 

Mostly for gaming and video editing

 

PLEASE DONT RECOMMEND ME ANOTHER BUILD OR SOMETHING,

I ONLY WANT TO KNOW WHICH ONE YOU WOULD CHOOSE

so basically an intel CPU with a top end motherboard and too much RAM

or AMD CPU with a shit ass low end board and only 8GB RAM...

I pick the intel kit all day long.

[TrueMegaManiac]

1 hour ago, sandrowiedner said:

The reason that i even have this idea:

 

A friend would sell me the CPU and Mainboard for 250€

The only thing that bothers me about the AMD config is the motherboard. A320 is pretty low end and offers no overclocking. Try squeezing in a b350 if you can if you go the AMD route. But an X79 board and a 3960X for 250 is a deal and DDR3 is cheaper than DDR4 by a good margin.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

so basically an intel CPU with a top end motherboard and too much RAM

or AMD CPU with a shit ass low end board and only 8GB RAM...

I pick the intel kit all day long.

It is ddr3 tho. But still the intel build there would cost way more. That CPU is kinda old as well.

[TrueMegaManiac]

3 minutes ago, hiitswilliam said:

It is ddr3 tho. But still the intel build there would cost way more. That CPU is kinda old as well.

DDR3 at Quad Channel though. Makes up the difference a fair amount.

[Stefan Payne]

1 hour ago, sandrowiedner said:

READ CAREFULLY

 

What would you choose?

 

Intel Core I7 3960X [6C / 12T | @4.5 Ghz]

ASUS Rampage IV Extreme

Corsair Vengeance 32GB [DDR3 @1600Mhz]

 

Or

 

AMD RyZen 5 1600X [6C / 12T | @4 Ghz]

Gigabyte GA-A320M-S2H

Ballistix Sport LT 8GB [DDR4 @2400Mhz]

 

Mostly for gaming and video editing

 

PLEASE DONT RECOMMEND ME ANOTHER BUILD OR SOMETHING,

I ONLY WANT TO KNOW WHICH ONE YOU WOULD CHOOSE

That comparisation is bullshit.

YOu should look at better build boards for the AMD Ryzen and also the 1600 as well. That should be like 20€ or so difference and thus you'd be able to afford a better quality board.

 

But I'd rather not invest in the old Sandy-E. Those are made in a similar process as Bulldozer, thus consume a whole lot of power.

And also they are old. We are talking more than 5 Years. Or rather close to 10 years old plattforms.

 

WIth that its highly probable that a MOSFET might explode (or just short) in the next couple of months, regardless of the Board you use.

[Stefan Payne]

1 hour ago, sandrowiedner said:

Bcs of the Board

YOu're in Germany, according to the Profile.

The Intel System should be around 400-500€, maybe more than that. Or there is something seriously wrong with the Intel thing

 

The AMD System is like 300€ at most.

The 1600x is listed for 140€  at Mindfactory

Board is 50€

Memory another ~50€ (and it makes no sense to save a buck or two on slow 2400 Memory.

And the Ballistix Sport LT DDR4-3000 is around 2€ more than the other ones!

 

at the same price the AMD System would be better and new, with warranty!

 

Here Liks for the stuff:
https://geizhals.de/amd-ryzen-5-1600x-yd160xbcaewof-a1604881.html

https://geizhals.de/gigabyte-ga-a320m-s2h-a1742705.html

https://geizhals.de/crucial-ballistix-sport-lt-grau-dimm-8gb-bls8g4d240fsbk-a1567083.html?hloc=at&hloc=de&hloc=eu&hloc=pl&hloc=uk

 

Here my Recommendation

 

Board: https://geizhals.de/asrock-b450m-pro4-90-mxb8f0-a0uayz-a1858732.html?hloc=at&hloc=de&hloc=eu&hloc=pl&hloc=uk 

if ATX is possible: https://geizhals.de/asrock-fatal1ty-b450-gaming-k4-90-mxb8a0-a0uayz-a1858705.html?hloc=at&hloc=de&hloc=eu&hloc=pl&hloc=uk

 

Memory: https://geizhals.de/crucial-ballistix-sport-lt-grau-dimm-8gb-bls8g4d30besbk-a1909238.html?hloc=at&hloc=de&hloc=eu&hloc=pl&hloc=uk

 

 

And there's the question of the PSU!
What do you have right now??

[i_build_nanosuits]

11 minutes ago, hiitswilliam said:

It is ddr3 tho. But still the intel build there would cost way more. That CPU is kinda old as well.

Old yes...but still offer extremely similar performance to a Ryzen 1600

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-3960X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600/1973vs3919

[Stefan Payne]

3 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

Old yes...but still offer extremely similar performance to a Ryzen 1600

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-3960X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600/1973vs3919

1. Without Warranty...
2. In select, few benchmarks
3. with higher Power Consumption.
4. No upgradepath
5. no spare parts if somehting fails

 

So is Power Consumption important or irrelevant? Can you pls decide on one of the two??

[aezakmi]

For 250 euro I'd go straight for the 3960X 

 

High end mobo vs cheapo office board

32GB on Q/C vs 8GB S/C

[i_build_nanosuits]

14 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

1. Without Warranty...
2. In select, few benchmarks
3. with higher Power Consumption.
4. No upgradepath
5. no spare parts if somehting fails

 

So is Power Consumption important or irrelevant? Can you pls decide on one of the two??

like i said already...the AMD comes with an entry level A320 motherboard...it'll probably trottle on it for a few months and then blow up...and then you have the RAM which is entry level 2400mhz RAM and only 8GB of it and the board only has 2 dimm slots...so where is your upgrade path there?!

 

To upgrade from that you'll need a new motherboard and new ram anyways cause this kit is trash...

 

If we were talking about a decent B350 motherboard with a 2x8GB kit of 3000mhz RAM or something then my opinion would be different...but in the AMD kit only the CPU has some value the rest is trash parts.

 

Also your point #2 doesn't make any sense...the intel CPU perform very similar to the Ryzen 1600 across the board...gaming, productivity etc...not just in select few benchmarks...it's a very similar CPU when it comes to performance.

[Stefan Payne]

2 hours ago, sandrowiedner said:

AMD RyZen 5 1600X [6C / 12T | @4 Ghz]

Ryzen 1600 is on sale for 119€ in Mindfactory's Mindstar:

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/AMD-Ryzen-5-1600-6x-3-20GHz-So-AM4-BOX_1159710.html

 

2600 for 149€ is also a good deal in there.