Bottleneck help?

[Ememegod]

Hi there. This is my first post on here, and I would like to make it a (semi) good one. So, I'm currently looking for new parts, and I came across two options. Quick note that I already have some parts (ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1060 3gb, Corsair 430cx 430 watt psu, corsair 270r case, 240gb SATA SSD, 1tb 7.2k RPM HDD, 4x4 (16gb) PNY Optima 1333 mhz DDR3 memory for the intel build). I'm having trouble picking between these two PC lists:

Intel: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rHvnV6

AMD: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jPT33b

I used a bottleneck calculator (ik, ik, not reliable) and it had said that the AMD build had a 3.12% bottleneck, and the Intel build had a 0.001% bottleneck. I'm kind of concerned on the bottleneck percentage for the Intel bc of it being older. Can anyone please tell me which one will likely have a higher bottleneck percentage?

Thanks.

[Jimkirk363]

I'd say Intel would have the biggest bottleneck with such slow ram.

[NunoLava1998]

.001% Not something you see on that calculator, typically it's 1% at least.

Only other combo I know of is Ryzen 5 2600 and GTX 1080 for it to go 0%

[Guest]

Intel would have the least bottleneck, but you'd be much better off with the AMD. 

[martward]

If you can stretch your budget a bit you could buy a Ryzen 5 2600 which is about $30 more expensive but definitively worth it. I personally wouldn't go with that Intel build, mostly because there is no upgrade path afterwards for the CPU. Maybe if you sell your ran you can put that money into getting a 2600.

[RAM555789]

Your better off with AMD because of upgradability. You also will have 4 RAM slots so you will be able to upgrade to 16GB later.

[Ememegod]

I've heard about a slight bottleneck with AMD CPUs and Nvidia GPU's because of the optimization with Radeon cards. Is this true, or should I stick with the Ryzen 5 build? And will the stock cooler do good?

[Ememegod]

12 hours ago, Ememegod said:

I've heard about a slight bottleneck with AMD CPUs and Nvidia GPU's because of the optimization with Radeon cards. Is this true, or should I stick with the Ryzen 5 build? And will the stock cooler do good?

Did some research, stock cooler is fine, I looked at some of the replies and the AMD does have much more room for upgradability, and the GPU should do fine. I think that I'll go with the Ryzen 7 1700 if it's still on sale by the time I purchase it, and the Ryzen 5 2600 if it's not. Thanks!

[Mister Woof]

13 hours ago, Ememegod said:

I've heard about a slight bottleneck with AMD CPUs and Nvidia GPU's because of the optimization with Radeon cards. Is this true, or should I stick with the Ryzen 5 build? And will the stock cooler do good?

They bottleneck at lower resolutions because they don't have the clock speeds that Intels can get. Once you get into the higher resolutions where load is pushed to primarily the GPU, Ryzen is fine.

[FrostBittn]

I would change that Ryzen 5 1400 to a Ryzen 5 2600 not only because it's a much better value and only $30 more, but because the memory controller on 2nd gen Ryzen is so much better

[xg32]

4 hours ago, Ememegod said:

Did some research, stock cooler is fine, I looked at some of the replies and the AMD does have much more room for upgradability, and the GPU should do fine. I think that I'll go with the Ryzen 7 1700 if it's still on sale by the time I purchase it, and the Ryzen 5 2600 if it's not. Thanks!

the 2600 is by far the best deal, skip the 1700 or the first gen in general, terrible max oc/worse ipc overall.

[Ememegod]

4 hours ago, xg32 said:

the 2600 is by far the best deal, skip the 1700 or the first gen in general, terrible max oc/worse ipc overall.

Yeah, the extra cores/threads kinda got my attention, but aren't the best. Should i get the 2600x instead? it has a large price difference though, so I'm kinda on edge.

[xg32]

7 hours ago, Ememegod said:

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i wouldn't pay extra for the 2600x over the 2600

[Mister Woof]

9 hours ago, Ememegod said:

Yeah, the extra cores/threads kinda got my attention, but aren't the best. Should i get the 2600x instead? it has a large price difference though, so I'm kinda on edge.

Do you want to overclock?

 

If so, get the 2600 with a decent cooler and it will perform the same or better than the stock 2600x.

 

If you don't want to overclock, get the 2600x.

 

If you don't want to overclock and you don't care much about a 5-10% improvement, get the 2600 and leave as is.

[Emanbaird]

As an Intel fanboy, i have to say unless you are aiming for refresh rates over 100, there is no point in going with Intel right now, the new Ryzen CPU's beat Intel easily in price to performance.

 

 

[gbergeron]

2 minutes ago, Emanbaird said:

As an Intel fanboy, i have to say unless you are aiming for refresh rates over 100, there is no point in going with Intel right now, the new Ryzen CPU's beat Intel easily in price to performance.

 

 

Who still play in 60 hz ?

[Mister Woof]

9 minutes ago, gbergeron said:

Who still play in 60 hz ?

probably half the people who bought 144hz monitors but didn't change their adapter settings, then post online to complain about the 144hz elitests being wrong.

 

~zing!

[gbergeron]

4 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

probably half the people who bought 144hz monitors but didn't change their adapter settings, then post online to complain about the 144hz elitests being wrong.

 

~zing!

haha !  funny but that would be : probably 100% of the people who bought 144 hz monitors and didnt change their settings  

[Ememegod]

5 hours ago, Emanbaird said:

As an Intel fanboy, i have to say unless you are aiming for refresh rates over 100, there is no point in going with Intel right now, the new Ryzen CPU's beat Intel easily in price to performance.

 

 

Ofc im playing on 144hz

[Ememegod]

6 hours ago, Plutosaurus said:

Do you want to overclock?

 

If so, get the 2600 with a decent cooler and it will perform the same or better than the stock 2600x.

 

If you don't want to overclock, get the 2600x.

 

If you don't want to overclock and you don't care much about a 5-10% improvement, get the 2600 and leave as is.

Nah, too much of a noobie. Plus it's an ASRock board I'm planning to get, so it's not the best GUI (ASUS has a sexy BIOS GUI Menu). Aaaand i'mkind of a cheap skate so i use the stock cooler.

[Jimkirk363]

The 2600 is a capable chip.

 

Its my goto chip for when i build mid range systems these days.