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First PC Build Plan (Will it work?)

Hey all, my intentions with this pc build is mostly to accommodate some hefty CAD goals (mostly SolidWorks, but I use Rhino and Fusion 360 too) and potentially some video editing. From what I've gathered in the few hours of Linus' videos I've watched that means I'm likely leaning more towards a workstation build but I also want to get some gaming out of it. Most of my gaming sticks to my PS4 but there are some things like Super Smash Bros games that I'd like to run on Dolphin.

 

My current setup is whatever comes standard in these Dell Inspiron 15 7000 2-in-1 laptops. It's listed as a gaming computer but that's just a lie, I can't run Smash on Dolphin with anything higher than 12 fps (kinda tough to count frames when they're not there to see) and local Rocket League games on Steam run back and forth between 15 fps and 48 fps, but never predictably. It handles CAD pretty well but only on a small scale. Single parts with simple features compute pretty quickly, but even just making a gear with 47 repeated features sent my laptop into shock for about a minute. Assemblies are okay if kept under 10 parts, but beyond that rendering/loading times take a severe dive.

 

So I've done a bit of research, tell me what you think and how wrong I am:
CPU: AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1920X (12-core/24 thread)

GPU: NVIDIA Quadro P2000

Motherboard: ASUS ROG STRIX X399-E GAMING AMD Ryzen Threadripper TR4 DDR4 M.2 U.2 X399 EATX HEDT Motherboard with onboard 802.11AC WiFi, USB 3.1 Gen2, and AURA Sync RGB Lighting (I don't know where the title starts or ends with this thing)

RAM: 2x 8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX (DDR4)

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO V-NAND 1TB

PSU: EVGA 750 N1

Case: Corsair 750D Airflow Edition

Cooling: A few fans from Noctua because of how quiet they are in reviews.

 

I have not taken any thought to which keyboard to use (although I do like the feel of the keyboard on my Inspiron laptop) and I have this wonky, wireless, vertical ergonomic mouse from Anker that I'm a pretty big fan of.

 

Last but not least, there's the whole monitor aspect of this rig. Try not to hate me for this: I don't mind running at 1080p and don't care for 4k graphics. That being said, I've done some design on a pair of inexpensive 32" TVs at 1080p and it made me very happy but I bought them used and they both died since then, very sad :(

 

I'm trying to keep the budget for this thing around $2000USD. The pc itself CANNOT exceed $2000 and I'm only looking to spend around $300 for the auxiliaries (keyboard, monitors, etc) but this price goal may be deranged, so let me know.

 

Does this work? Does this not work? Please let me know. Thanks.

 

P.S. I'm open to upgrading the rig in the future, but I want to get a solid base setup for now. Like I was talking about the gaming aspect of this computer, down the road I may purchase a more gaming-specific GPU, but for the initial build the P2000 checks off my task lists. Please give me suggestions for future upgrades as well. Since PCs and gaming are constantly evolving, I figure the rig will have to change every once in a while too.

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I would look into if you actually need the P2000. The only difference between that and gaming cards are driver unlocks to put it simply. If the application your using doesn't really benefit from that, a gaming card will be cheaper, or offer more performance for the same price. I am not sure if the programs you listed need quadro's or not though, so can't help you out there. The rest of it looks pretty solid! With that said, Ryzen 3000 was just announced, it may be worth waiting a few months to see how those do since they are looking to be really powerful little beasts.

 

Also, more ram may be helpful, 16 GB is typically the low end for these types of builds. That said, you can always upgrade that in the future very easily if you see a need.

Rig: i7 13700k - - Asus Z790-P Wifi - - RTX 4080 - - 4x16GB 6000MHz - - Samsung 990 Pro 2TB NVMe Boot + Main Programs - - Assorted SATA SSD's for Photo Work - - Corsair RM850x - - Sound BlasterX EA-5 - - Corsair XC8 JTC Edition - - Corsair GPU Full Cover GPU Block - - XT45 X-Flow 420 + UT60 280 rads - - EK XRES RGB PWM - - Fractal Define S2 - - Acer Predator X34 -- Logitech G502 - - Logitech G710+ - - Logitech Z5500 - - LTT Deskpad

 

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It will work, but a EVGA N1 PSU for a workstation is just plain stupid (It's meant for HTPCs and extremely basic or basically useless PCs, not thousand-dollar workstations...). Get a Corsair HX750 or EVGA P2 or T2. If you can't afford that much, go for a Corsair RM750x. (RM750i if you want Corsair Link). Pretty important issue there.

 

Other than that, seems great (get a normal GPU instead of a Quadro however)

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This one should be good for what you need.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 1920X 3.5 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($419.00 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-U14S TR4-SP3 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler  ($79.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X399 Taichi ATX TR4 Motherboard  ($294.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Sniper X 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($219.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($147.00 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB VENTUS Video Card  ($484.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair - 750D Airflow Edition ATX Full Tower Case  ($159.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.89 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Acer - G257HL BMIDX 25.0" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor  ($138.18 @ Walmart) 
Monitor: Acer - G257HL BMIDX 25.0" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor  ($138.18 @ Walmart) 
Keyboard: Gigabyte - FORCE K83 Wired Standard Keyboard  ($39.40 @ Newegg) 
Total: $2181.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-13 03:32 EST-0500

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1 hour ago, DHoff said:

Hey all, my intentions with this pc build is mostly to accommodate some hefty CAD goals (mostly SolidWorks, but I use Rhino and Fusion 360 too) and potentially some video editing. From what I've gathered in the few hours of Linus' videos I've watched that means I'm likely leaning more towards a workstation build but I also want to get some gaming out of it. Most of my gaming sticks to my PS4 but there are some things like Super Smash Bros games that I'd like to run on Dolphin.

I think that the P2000 is a bit overpriced for CAD, as i'm guessing you are not designing full working car assemblies (otherwise your current pc wouldnt be a Laptop, let alone a dell 2 in 1 laptop), i currently use a 6GB 1060 in my desktop and inventor didn't struggle once doing this (badges for the side of a car that my dad recently brought {cars called a hornet hense the hornet})

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also didn't struggle once doing this for my uni degree

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When i was at uni I had to change the front as the teacher wanted us to use a 3D printer so this was developed with inventor on my laptop which has a 3GB 1060 which only "struggled" (in quotes as it was more just needed a second or two to load) when I was away from the powerpoint, inbetween the blades is a gap which has a smaller intake than the opening at the rear creating a vacuum creating a pulling motion on the front and was curved to push most of the air out the side (actually dissapointed that i couldn't find the Cad file on my laptop as it did take like a day to make on inventor)

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So how hefty will the cad work be that you will be doing?

 

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On 1/13/2019 at 12:22 AM, NunoLava1998 said:

It will work, but a EVGA N1 PSU for a workstation is just plain stupid (It's meant for HTPCs and extremely basic or basically useless PCs, not thousand-dollar workstations...). Get a Corsair HX750 or EVGA P2 or T2. If you can't afford that much, go for a Corsair RM750x. (RM750i if you want Corsair Link). Pretty important issue there.

I'm a little lost in the terminology you're using #pcnoob. The Newegg calculator showed me only needing about 609W for the listed set-up. How do these other ones benefit my set-up in comparison to the cheaper N1? (Asking for clarification, not spite)

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On 1/13/2019 at 12:33 AM, advertusm said:

This one should be good for what you need.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 1920X 3.5 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($419.00 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-U14S TR4-SP3 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler  ($79.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X399 Taichi ATX TR4 Motherboard  ($294.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Sniper X 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($219.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($147.00 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB VENTUS Video Card  ($484.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair - 750D Airflow Edition ATX Full Tower Case  ($159.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.89 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Acer - G257HL BMIDX 25.0" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor  ($138.18 @ Walmart) 
Monitor: Acer - G257HL BMIDX 25.0" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor  ($138.18 @ Walmart) 
Keyboard: Gigabyte - FORCE K83 Wired Standard Keyboard  ($39.40 @ Newegg) 
Total: $2181.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-13 03:32 EST-0500

Mad props to you my dude, thanks for showing me that PCPartPicker too! Nifty little tool there :) 

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On 1/13/2019 at 1:19 AM, WickedStarfish said:

I think that the P2000 is a bit overpriced for CAD, as i'm guessing you are not designing full working car assemblies (otherwise your current pc wouldnt be a Laptop, let alone a dell 2 in 1 laptop), i currently use a 6GB 1060 in my desktop and inventor didn't struggle once doing this [...]

So how hefty will the cad work be that you will be doing?

I don't see myself going beyond 25 parts in any single assembly. I'm heading toward machining as a trade and specifically as a CNC Programmer. More often than not machinists get a bit less of the CAD aspect of manufacturing than engineers do, especially with a CNC focus I'll generally have one part at a time or I'll be cutting out multiple pieces from sheet material (which would be programmed as 1 part). So in terms of profession, the CAD won't be too hefty. As for the recreational side of things, as long as I have a license and a computer, I'll be dreaming things up until my creativity runs dry. So far this laptop has had some trouble with a simple valve assembly and even a couple of pulley mechanisms loaded in the same assembly. Again, I could see myself running up to 25 parts with mates and whatnot, but beyond that (as of now) I think would be a stretch.

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I would suggest a gamble to you. It is rumored that the upcomming ryzen 9 might be a 16c/32t chip. And it comes on the AM4 socket. 

If you get a B450 or X470 (if you need SLI but i don't think so) Motherboard paired with a first gen Ryzen 7 for now. Wou wont be to disappointed with the performance. It is still a capable 8c/16t CPU. This Build comes around 500 $ cheaper and you can swap the 1700 for a 3rd gen Ryzen this summer. The Noctua D15 is a overkill Cooler but we don't know heat performance of Ryzen 3, same for the 750 W PSU but i choose to leave a bit of head room. A 650 W would probably still be plenty. Also EVGA G3 > G2.

This is somehow the gamble/"future proof" build. But even the upcoming Ryzen 7 are rumored to be 12c/24t so you would probably see threadripper performance for less money. If you don't need the extra PCIe lanes or quad channel RAM i think it is the better approach.

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Nw4CnH
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Nw4CnH/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($169.89 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($119.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($209.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($147.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB VENTUS Video Card  ($484.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.89 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Acer - G257HL BMIDX 25.0" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor  ($138.09 @ Walmart) 
Monitor: Acer - G257HL BMIDX 25.0" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor  ($138.09 @ Walmart) 
Keyboard: Gigabyte - FORCE K83 Wired Standard Keyboard  ($39.40 @ Newegg Business) 
Total: $1688.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-17 04:27 EST-0500

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