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So I ordered a ram kit, trident z 16gb 3000mhz cl16 and now I'm confused if I should cancel my order and get for 10 more euros the 3200mhz cl16 kit. Will be using with a 9600k and z390 aorus elite.

Watched some youtube videos about this and found that the difference is quite big for only 200mhz, I mean it is a 10 fps difference at many times. So should I go for the 3200 ones for 10 euros more?

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2 minutes ago, beast said:

So I ordered a ram kit, trident z 16gb 3000mhz cl16 and now I'm confused if I should cancel my order and get for 10 more euros the 3200mhz cl16 kit. Will be using with a 9600k and z390 aorus elite.

Watched some youtube videos about this and found that the difference is quite big for only 200mhz, I mean it is a 10 fps difference at many times. So should I go for the 3200 ones for 10 euros more?

10 fps difference for 10 €? i'd definitly pick that 3200mhz

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Couldn't you OC it? The coolings probably beefy enough.

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3 minutes ago, Flawizz said:

10 fps difference for 10 €? i'd definitly pick that 3200mhz

Where do you get this from?! 10 fps difference between what two amounts?

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I don't think it's giving that much benefit real world, but if it does... 10 for 10?  All day, every day.  

 

 

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12 minutes ago, PacketMan said:

I don't really think it works like that. It would be maybe a gain of 2 fps, 5 fps at best I'd say. There are videos comparing how fast your RAM should be for Ryzen (the CPUs that really need fast RAM, with the 9600K it's just the same).

I'd say pay 10 euros more and get the faster RAM, I mean, just 10 euros you wish you had spent at the beginning.

i know, but he said its a 10fps gain, im just listening to him. if its 10fps for 10€ hell yeah

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1 minute ago, Flawizz said:

i know, but he said its a 10fps gain, im just listening to him. if its 10fps for 10€ hell yeah

Who is he?  Link video?

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1 minute ago, jstudrawa said:

Who is he?  Link video?

 

28 minutes ago, beast said:

I mean it is a 10 fps difference at many times. So should I go for the 3200 ones for 10 euros more?

 

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3000mhz vs 3200mhz makes NO DIFFERENCE what so ever especially when using INTEL CPU...

it's not worth it, this video is BS, don't worry about it...keep the 3000mhz it's plenty fast.

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Just now, i_build_nanosuits said:

3000mhz vs 3200mhz makes NO DIFFERENCE what so ever especially when using INTEL CPU...

it's not worth it, this video is BS, don't worry about it...keep the 3000mhz it's plenty fast.

I find it interesting that the 3000MHz RAM is running at 2933MHz.  

 

Does the video list the test system at all?  I didn't watch it all.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

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11 minutes ago, beast said:

 

 

The 3000 and 3200 are functionally the same in the videos. For 99% of users, all that matters is getting to 3000.

9 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

3000mhz vs 3200mhz makes NO DIFFERENCE what so ever especially when using INTEL CPU...

it's not worth it, this video is BS, don't worry about it...keep the 3000mhz it's plenty fast.

This is incorrect. Saturation is at 3000 for both AMD & Intel, but in highly latency sensitive activities faster RAM with better timings will bring an improvement.

7 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

I find it interesting that the 3000MHz RAM is running at 2933MHz.  

 

Does the video list the test system at all?  I didn't watch it all.

2933 is actually the JEDEC spec. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR4_SDRAM

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12 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

I find it interesting that the 3000MHz RAM is running at 2933MHz.  

 

Does the video list the test system at all?  I didn't watch it all.

no infos on anything...

Anyways he sure did a good job of making sure to be in a CPU bound situation so MAYBE this 147FPS vs 149FPS or whatever is POSSIBLE...but in real world, you are GPU bound most of the time if not all the time (at least you should try to) so RAM speed difference will have NOWHERE near that level of impact on gaming performance.

 

What he show in this video is a absolute WORSE possible situation...which doesn't happen in real world.

 

2 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

This is incorrect. Saturation is at 3000 for both AMD & Intel, but in highly latency sensitive activities faster RAM with better timings will bring an improvement.

I failed to explain WHY it doesn't make any difference in MOST cases for a gamer what ram speed you have, which i now did. ^^

 

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58 minutes ago, beast said:

So I ordered a ram kit, trident z 16gb 3000mhz cl16 and now I'm confused if I should cancel my order and get for 10 more euros the 3200mhz cl16 kit. Will be using with a 9600k and z390 aorus elite.

Watched some youtube videos about this and found that the difference is quite big for only 200mhz, I mean it is a 10 fps difference at many times. So should I go for the 3200 ones for 10 euros more?

Anytime the price is relatively close, as in this case, whether the benefits are worth it or not, I would choose the faster set. If you can afford it, go for it! You may not notice a difference, but I like to be on the safe side.

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1 hour ago, beast said:

Will be using with a 9600k

You should worry about this choice A LOT more than what RAM you get.

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I got the 9600k super cheap (170€), cheaper than 2600x.

I did not see things right, so the difference between rams are 21€. 

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3 minutes ago, beast said:

I got the 9600k super cheap (170€), cheaper than 2600x.

I did not see things right, so the difference between rams are 21€. 

Keep your CPU, keep your RAM.

 

Enjoy gaming.  That's the entire f-ing point of all this.  To Enjoy your Machine.

 

Go do that.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

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Steam Deck 512GB OLED

 

OnePlus: 

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OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

 

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- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

Lenovo 720S Touch 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400MHz, 512GB NVMe SSD, 1050Ti, 4K touchscreen

MSI GF62 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400 MHz, 256GB NVMe SSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, 1050Ti

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Okay. I just payed for the 3000mhz ones, hope I would not regret not going with 3200.

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The normal human can not see the difference from 3Ghz to 3.2Ghz ,,,,, we are not normal.... but honestly your system is fine either way.  Okay maybe if you time the render the 3200Mhz would be faster but who cares about that lol. 

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9 hours ago, jstudrawa said:

Keep your CPU, keep your RAM.

 

Enjoy gaming.  That's the entire f-ing point of all this.  To Enjoy your Machine.

 

Go do that.

Gaming?  What's that?  I thought this was all about tech enthusiasm,  engineering,  benchmarks,  and bragging rights.

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So if I understand correctly, the difference between 3000 and 3200 should be visible in super high bottleneck scenarios (low settings 1080p with high fps)? I can't find a comparation in new games where the bottleneck is the gpu

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