64GB RAM for Ryzen 1700

[P4vCiosPL]

Hello everyone. I have to buy 64GB (4x16) RAM for Ryzen 1700 and MSI B350 PC MATE (this is temporary as I'm planning to buy Threadripper and X399 Mobo next year). I will be using it for 3D graphics and I would like to buy it on this site (https://www.morele.net/komputery/podzespoly-komputerowe...) but I'm not sure if the RAM that I've chosen will work without any problems as I can't find them on this Mobo's compatibility list (my current RAM which is 4x8GB Ripjaws 4 also isn't there and it works fine). I'm thinking about these ones as they have pretty good price (2500 zł is 680 USD) and good MHz and CL. 

1. Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 4x16GB, 3000MHz, CL16 (CMK64GX4M4D3000C16)
2. G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4, 4x16GB, 3200MHz, CL15 (F4-3200C16Q-64GVK)
3. G.Skill Sniper X DDR4, 4x16GB, 3200MHz, CL16 (F4-3200C16Q-64GSXKB)
4. G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4, 4x16GB, 3000MHz, CL15 (F4-3000C15Q-64GVR)

Do you guys know if they are ok for this Mobo and CPU? Or would you recommend other RAMs? I would be very thankful for help! 

[DocSwag]

Those are all dual rank two dimms per channel. Getting them to run above 2666 would be a pain. Have you looked into a 1920x which is around $400?

[Tarun10]

31 minutes ago, P4vCiosPL said:

Hello everyone. I have to buy 64GB (4x16) RAM for Ryzen 1700 and MSI B350 PC MATE (this is temporary as I'm planning to buy Threadripper and X399 Mobo next year). I will be using it for 3D graphics and I would like to buy it on this site (https://www.morele.net/komputery/podzespoly-komputerowe...) but I'm not sure if the RAM that I've chosen will work without any problems as I can't find them on this Mobo's compatibility list (my current RAM which is 4x8GB Ripjaws 4 also isn't there and it works fine). I'm thinking about these ones as they have pretty good price (2500 zł is 680 USD) and good MHz and CL. 

1. Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 4x16GB, 3000MHz, CL16 (CMK64GX4M4D3000C16)
2. G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4, 4x16GB, 3200MHz, CL15 (F4-3200C16Q-64GVK)
3. G.Skill Sniper X DDR4, 4x16GB, 3200MHz, CL16 (F4-3200C16Q-64GSXKB)
4. G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4, 4x16GB, 3000MHz, CL15 (F4-3000C15Q-64GVR)

Do you guys know if they are ok for this Mobo and CPU? Or would you recommend other RAMs? I would be very thankful for help! 

Ripjaws has pretty good compatibility for Ryzen but I don't know whether 4x16GB sticks are supported.

[P4vCiosPL]

21 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Those are all dual rank two dimms per channel. Getting them to run above 2666 would be a pain. Have you looked into a 1920x which is around $400?

 

17 minutes ago, Tarun10 said:

Ripjaws has pretty good compatibility for Ryzen but I don't know whether 4x16GB sticks are supported.

 

Thanks for answers. But if they are not supported does it mean they might not work (or there's no such possibility?) or I might not be able to use all of the memory (for example only 32 will work instead of 64) or they just might not work in full speed and that's the only problem I can have? 

 

I'm thinking about 2950x but it's not in stock yet.

[DocSwag]

9 hours ago, P4vCiosPL said:

Thanks for answers. But if they are not supported does it mean they might not work (or there's no such possibility?) or I might not be able to use all of the memory (for example only 32 will work instead of 64) or they just might not work in full speed and that's the only problem I can have? 

 

They just won't work at the full speed. It might only work at, say, 2666 MHz.

 

Also, if you get a newer 2700 it should help with compatibility.

 

[P4vCiosPL]

On 19.09.2018 at 1:55 AM, DocSwag said:

They just won't work at the full speed. It might only work at, say, 2666 MHz.

 

Also, if you get a newer 2700 it should help with compatibility.

 

I'm planning to get 2950X or even 2990WX with new mobo but unfortunately not now but next year so I'm not sure if I would like to change 1700 for 2700 which is almost the same:/

 

And what about G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4, 4x16GB, 2800MHz, CL14 (F4-2800C14Q-64GVK)? It's CL14 but only 2800MHz so what can I expect from it? Is there a chance it will work in full speed?

[DocSwag]

2 hours ago, P4vCiosPL said:

I'm planning to get 2950X or even 2990WX with new mobo but unfortunately not now but next year so I'm not sure if I would like to change 1700 for 2700 which is almost the same:/

If you get one those you'll probably have a much better chance of the ram working. Not only are they ryzen 2, but they also have Quad channel so you'd no longer be running 2 dimms/channel which would help with getting higher frequencies. Honestly if you went for one of those you'd probably be able to get one of the kits working fine.

2 hours ago, P4vCiosPL said:

And what about G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4, 4x16GB, 2800MHz, CL14 (F4-2800C14Q-64GVK)? It's CL14 but only 2800MHz so what can I expect from it? Is there a chance it will work in full speed?

What's the price of it compared to the others? That uses b die which works very well with ryzen. You'll almost definitely be able to hit 2800 mhz with it and if you wanted to tinker you may even be able to push it further.

[Carclis]

Going off personal experience I'd say don't worry about putting the money down for a faster kit of RAM. If you're after a high capacity kit like that and a large number of dimms you are not going to be running it at  a high speed anyways. For example: I have a 4*8GB kit of Samsung B die memory and I'm unable to get it stable with a 2950x above 2933Mhz and I'm only using four dimms, not eight. If I were you I'd just go for a cheaper low CAS kit and see if the timings can be tightened at 2666Mhz.

[P4vCiosPL]

Guys I can get G.Skill DDR4 Trident Z RGB 64GB 3000MHz CL14 for pretty good price (around 800USD when normally they cost 1050-1100) - it's CL14 so looks like Samsung b-die right? What do you say - would you recommend me to buy it?

Also I've found G.SKILL DDR4 32GB (2x16GB) TridentZ 3000MHz CL15-15-15 XMP2 for pretty good price - I know it's CL15 but even if it won't work in full speed with my Ryzen 1700 I hope it could work in full speed in the future with eg. 2950X? And I guess I can simply buy 2 sets of this RAM (it's 2x16GB) and there shouldn't be any problems?'

 

@DocSwag

 

I can get G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4, 4x16GB, 2800MHz, CL14 (F4-2800C14Q-64GVK) for like 760USD. 

 

On 9/29/2018 at 4:23 PM, Carclis said:

Going off personal experience I'd say don't worry about putting the money down for a faster kit of RAM. If you're after a high capacity kit like that and a large number of dimms you are not going to be running it at  a high speed anyways. For example: I have a 4*8GB kit of Samsung B die memory and I'm unable to get it stable with a 2950x above 2933Mhz and I'm only using four dimms, not eight. If I were you I'd just go for a cheaper low CAS kit and see if the timings can be tightened at 2666Mhz.

 

Unfortunately almost every RAM with CL14 costs a lot unless it's 2133MHZ or 2400MHz which are a bit cheaper but everything above 2400MHz costs 1000USD or more - I've only found those G.SKILLs with a pretty reasonable price.

[Princess Luna]

7 minutes ago, P4vCiosPL said:

I can get G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4, 4x16GB, 2800MHz, CL14 (F4-2800C14Q-64GVK) for like 760USD. 

I'm fairly sure you can run these at 2933mhz CL14, worth getting in my opinion which is quite alright, originally my 1800X also worked on 2933mhz only with late BIOS updates we got it to 3200mhz, difference wise more on synthetic numbers than real world performance being honest.

[Carclis]

2 hours ago, P4vCiosPL said:

Unfortunately almost every RAM with CL14 costs a lot unless it's 2133MHZ or 2400MHz which are a bit cheaper but everything above 2400MHz costs 1000USD or more - I've only found those G.SKILLs with a pretty reasonable price. 

Probably because they are better kits. Given that this one is only 3000Mhz and not 3200Mhz C14 it's possible that it's not Samsung B-die. Regardless of what it is you're basically guaranteed that it won't run at the rated speed on Ryzen. You're not only trying to push 4 dimms which is hard on the IMC but you're doing it with four very large capacity modules. See if the QVL list has any comparable kits at that speed first but I wouldn't be surprised if there were none at that speed working with 4 dimms and even 32GB of capacity total.

[P4vCiosPL]

On 10/9/2018 at 11:15 PM, Princess Cadence said:

I'm fairly sure you can run these at 2933mhz CL14, worth getting in my opinion which is quite alright, originally my 1800X also worked on 2933mhz only with late BIOS updates we got it to 3200mhz, difference wise more on synthetic numbers than real world performance being honest.

Thanks, finally there's a hope that something will work fine. I've also found another one with not so bad price: HyperX Predator 64GB [4x16GB 2666MHz DDR4 CL13 XMP DIMM]. It's about 50USD cheaper than G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4, 4x16GB, 2800MHz, CL14 (F4-2800C14Q-64GVK) so which one would you recommend? Will this HyperX also work fine? 

 

23 hours ago, Carclis said:

Probably because they are better kits. Given that this one is only 3000Mhz and not 3200Mhz C14 it's possible that it's not Samsung B-die. Regardless of what it is you're basically guaranteed that it won't run at the rated speed on Ryzen. You're not only trying to push 4 dimms which is hard on the IMC but you're doing it with four very large capacity modules. See if the QVL list has any comparable kits at that speed first but I wouldn't be surprised if there were none at that speed working with 4 dimms and even 32GB of capacity total.

Unfortunately I haven't found anything but it doesn't automatically mean there no chance that some RAMs will work with full speed like eg. those Ripjaws V, right?

[Carclis]

4 hours ago, P4vCiosPL said:

Unfortunately I haven't found anything but it doesn't automatically mean there no chance that some RAMs will work with full speed like eg. those Ripjaws V, right?

It might work but it's not guaranteed. Personally I wouldn't purchase anything over 2933Mhz unless it's not costing you anything extra.

[Stefan Payne]

On 9/18/2018 at 3:13 PM, P4vCiosPL said:

Hello everyone. I have to buy 64GB (4x16) RAM for Ryzen 1700 and MSI B350 PC MATE (this is temporary as I'm planning to buy Threadripper and X399 Mobo next year). I will be using it for 3D graphics and I would like to buy it on this site

1) can't you get an ASUS Board? Or an ASROCK? Because MSI doesn't Support ECC.

In the Past, wich means Socket 939 and AM2, you could use even Registred ECC RAM with AMD CPUs and certain Boards, mostly ASUS, possibly Gigabyte. But not MSI. I doubt that this thing has changed...

 

2) What about (unbuffered) ECC Memory? For a work PC with 64GiB RAM, that should be an option and be preferred over speed as it gives a bit of security against faulty RAM.

 

And thus I'd prefer the security because if one RAM Die has an error and causes a fault in the Rendering, that might be a Problem...

 

 

Since it looks like it is an important system that might handle important calculations, that is something you shoud definately think about and consider!

 

Remember that AMD supports ECC with all 8 Core Ryzen CPU Die based products, the APU does not support it to my knowledge.

 

Anyway:

ECC might be more important than speed in this case...