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Wich CPU should I buy? 1950X, 7940X or 7960X

Hello.

 

Im about to buy a new CPU and Mortherbord, allready have the  ram.

 

My 3 options is this:

 

Asus Rampage VI Apex + 7960X

 

Asus Rampage VI Apex + 7940x

 

Asus ROG Strix X399-E Gaming + TR 1950X

 

Rest of the system is this:

 

CPU ?

Mortherbord?

Ram Corsair DOM Plat 4x4 GB 3200Mhz CL15

Titan X Pascal.

Corsair AX 1200 PSU

 

The CPU and GPU are gonna be in a Watercooling Loop with 2x 360 Rads "60mm" and 1x 120 Rad "80mm" I will make the watercooling in 2 loops when I getting my 2 Volta cards. SO CPU get there own Quad Rad, and a other new Quad Rad for the GPUS.

 

The thing is, I game mabye 50% of the time, and the rest im overclocking and benchmark, that is just my hobby, I love it, and it take so much of my time.

 

When I look at the TR 1950x at 4Ghz and the 7960x at 4.5Ghz, is like the TR 1950x getting blow away?

 

Here is 3 score from Firestirk, you SHALL only look at the CPU score.

 

TR 1950x @ 4Ghz

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Core I9 7940x @ 4.8Ghz

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7960X @ 4.5Ghz

 

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I would like to hear your all about this? what do you think. did any 1950x hit 4.2Ghz ect ect. I would like to hear you.

Im buying this sunday.

 

Thanks all. good weekend.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, NicklasAPJ said:

Hello.

 

Im about to buy a new CPU and Mortherbord, allready have the  ram.

 

My 3 options is this:

 

Asus Rampage VI Apex + 7960X

 

Asus Rampage VI Apex + 7940x

 

Asus ROG Strix X399-E Gaming + TR 1950X

 

Rest of the system is this:

 

CPU ?

Mortherbord?

Ram Corsair DOM Plat 4x4 GB 3200Mhz CL15

Titan X Pascal.

Corsair AX 1200 PSU

 

The CPU and GPU are gonna be in a Watercooling Loop with 2x 360 Rads "60mm" and 1x 120 Rad "80mm" I will make the watercooling in 2 loops when I getting my 2 Volta cards. SO CPU get there own Quad Rad, and a other new Quad Rad for the GPUS.

 

The thing is, I game mabye 50% of the time, and the rest im overclocking and benchmark, that is just my hobby, I love it, and it take so much of my time.

 

When I look at the TR 1950x at 4Ghz and the 7960x at 4.5Ghz, is like the TR 1950x getting blow away?

 

Here is 3 score from Firestirk, you SHALL only look at the CPU score.

 

TR 1950x @ 4Ghz

5a33e867d5c88_TR1950x.thumb.png.3bd96fc5c89ef5a40e079bb44bd176d1.png

 

 

 

 

Core I9 7940x @ 4.8Ghz

5a33e84e75a23_7940x4800Mhz.thumb.jpg.590bf5ecad9ae223048f21b4a6bcdb0d.jpg

 

 

7960X @ 4.5Ghz

 

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I would like to hear your all about this? what do you think. did any 1950x hit 4.2Ghz ect ect. I would like to hear you.

Im buying this sunday.

 

Thanks all. good weekend.

 

 

1950X is cheaper, has more cores, less power consumption, almost double the cache and more PCIe express lanes. Only downside is clock speed, but in most applications that makes a big difference.

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What workloads are you planning on? raw performance is meaningless to see, maybe you'll benefit a lot from AVX512 and should go Intel, maybe you just need mega-tasking and the TR1950x would serve you better.

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The Exteme chips and Threadrippers aren't for gaming, like at all. So that's a waste right there. Also, there's no guarantee there will be Volta consumer cards, and the Titan V won't support SLI in case you were considering those :P 

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If those were the options on the table, I'd jump on the 1950x. The money you save on the chip alone you can put into a good water loop and have a killer system. That's just my vote. 

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3 hours ago, NelizMastr said:

The Exteme chips and Threadrippers aren't for gaming, like at all. So that's a waste right there. Also, there's no guarantee there will be Volta consumer cards, and the Titan V won't support SLI in case you were considering those :P 

 

I know that Titan V dont support SLI.

 

There will be comeing more TItan card, but that is not the what we talk about.

 

1 hour ago, Santo22 said:

If those were the options on the table, I'd jump on the 1950x. The money you save on the chip alone you can put into a good water loop and have a killer system. That's just my vote. 

 

I allready have a custom watercooling setup.

 

I know that NONE of this CPU is made for gaming, I benchmark and overclock most of the time, I know if I buy a 8700k, I would return it next day because of the low performace in Benchmark, 1950x is not bad. Not if you look performace per doller, I wish I could look that way, but 4Ghz is kinda  low, and low IPC, wich sadly I use in CS GO and other games.

 

The benchmark I use most of my time in is:

 

Cinebench

Timespy

Firestirke

Wprime

Superpi

 

Much more.

 

Ect ect ect. I have more hours in that than the most of my games.

 

I had the top CPUs since the X58 times. 980x/3960x/4960x/5960x/6900k and now is time for a new CPU,  im used to pay thes price.. Just be glad your not in Denmark, the 7960x cost 12700 DDK wich is like 2014 USD for you guys :P 

 

Did any see 1950X over 4.2Ghz? max I found was like 4.15.

 

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You’ll have to wait for the Zen+ refresh to see higher speeds I’m afraid. Or you could get a 7980XE lol

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45 minutes ago, NelizMastr said:

You’ll have to wait for the Zen+ refresh to see higher speeds I’m afraid. Or you could get a 7980XE lol

 

Ye, but we only getting a shrink in 2018, no TR, only normal 4 - 8 Cores :/ Zen2 is 2019.

 

Well 7980XE cost 2380 USD here, a bit to much for me :P 

Can max paid the 7960x.

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So benchmarking and cs go?

Looking like intel for you for that single thread

Or wait

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6 hours ago, pas008 said:

So benchmarking and cs go?

Looking like intel for you for that single thread

Or wait

 

Im wating.

 

" Love that "Or wait :P "

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What are your workloads excactly? Why do you need a HEDT processor? All the the mentioned CPUs will struggle to keep up with the 8700K at Gaming. Unless your workloads are multithreaded, don't waste your money.

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9 minutes ago, FTL said:

What are your workloads excactly? Why do you need a HEDT processor? All the the mentioned CPUs will struggle to keep up with the 8700K at Gaming. Unless your workloads are multithreaded, don't waste your money.

OP already explained that even though he knows the i7 8700k would be the best processor for his needs he is used to burn extra money on CPUs he won't be taking advantage of.

 

Given the case I say the i9 7900x is the very best CPU for him since it is expensive offers the very best balance in performance between single thread and multi-thread today.

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CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

OP already explained that even though he knows the i7 8700k would be the best processor for his needs he is used to burn extra money on CPUs he won't be taking advantage of.

 

Given the case I say the i9 7900x is the very best CPU for him since it is expensive offers the very best balance in performance between single thread and multi-thread today.

I just don't get why some people want to buy a worse processor for more money.

It's much better to buy the cheaper and better processor and upgrade each generation, than buying stupid stuff you can't take advantage of and then seeing it get outdated just 1 year later.

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4 minutes ago, FTL said:

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Not up to us to judge someone's buying decisions even if they are of extreme poor value, it seems OP currently is rocking an i7 6900k, that is enough horse power to wait for the 10nm Ice Lake i7 9700k coming in September featuring 8 cores / 16 threads on the latest IPC... sounds like the best to go then HEDT's for light work.

 

I always like saying, mainstream i7 is a Ferrari, can't carry much but is the fastest, HEDT be it Threadripper or i9 is a truck, it is slow and heavy but carries a bunch of Ferrari's on its back xD

 

Wanting the fastest possible for all the sweet fps does sounds more wise than being able to do a lot of heavy work that you'll not do in the first place.

 

But like I said, it is his money and interest do as seem fit, I'd still get the i9 7900x over all the 3 options he brought since it will be the best performing chip at every thing but Cinebench 15 multi-thread score.

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Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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On 16/12/2017 at 5:28 PM, FTL said:

What are your workloads excactly? Why do you need a HEDT processor? All the the mentioned CPUs will struggle to keep up with the 8700K at Gaming. Unless your workloads are multithreaded, don't waste your money.

 

Overclocking and benchmark.

 

Sadly you neeed this kind of CPUs for that, to get the right Physic score.

 

On 16/12/2017 at 5:38 PM, Princess Cadence said:

OP already explained that even though he knows the i7 8700k would be the best processor for his needs he is used to burn extra money on CPUs he won't be taking advantage of.

 

Given the case I say the i9 7900x is the very best CPU for him since it is expensive offers the very best balance in performance between single thread and multi-thread today.

 

I have all the HEDT CPUs since 775 The q9650x was my first, then 980x/3960x/4960x/5960x/6900k and so now it gonna be a new one.

Im used to them, and cant see me with a 6 cores sadly. Not for my needs of benchmarking. they are just too weak :/ but for gaming they are perfect.
 

Afterall im taking the 7960x, The power of the 1950x is really good for the price, but ind the end there is so many places there 7960x kills it.
 

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12 hours ago, NicklasAPJ said:

 

Overclocking and benchmark.

 

Sadly you neeed this kind of CPUs for that, to get the right Physic score.

 

 

I have all the HEDT CPUs since 775 The q9650x was my first, then 980x/3960x/4960x/5960x/6900k and so now it gonna be a new one.

Im used to them, and cant see me with a 6 cores sadly. Not for my needs of benchmarking. they are just too weak :/ but for gaming they are perfect.
 

Afterall im taking the 7960x, The power of the 1950x is really good for the price, but ind the end there is so many places there 7960x kills it.
 

You are just using it for benchmarks? The best Overclocker is the i7 8700K.

Or is there a real need for those CPUs because you are wasting all your money on stuff you can't take advantage of. Trust me, you will regret it.

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11 hours ago, FTL said:

You are just using it for benchmarks? The best Overclocker is the i7 8700K.

Or is there a real need for those CPUs because you are wasting all your money on stuff you can't take advantage of. Trust me, you will regret it.

Dont think you quite understand, 8700k is not the best overclocker, is all about what you want to benchmark.

 

Im a 3D benchmarker, 3dmark firestrike, Timespy, ect ect. I need a A HUGE CPU score, wich 8700k just cant give me sadly :/  cause of the low core count.

 

But for Heaven benchmark 8700k is the best one.

 

 

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18 hours ago, NicklasAPJ said:

Dont think you quite understand, 8700k is not the best overclocker, is all about what you want to benchmark.

 

Im a 3D benchmarker, 3dmark firestrike, Timespy, ect ect. I need a A HUGE CPU score, wich 8700k just cant give me sadly :/  cause of the low core count.

 

But for Heaven benchmark 8700k is the best one.

 

 

i see, but for benchmarkers, i would get multiple cpus, since each does best in their own categories. 8700K fo single core and either the 1950X or 7960X for multi. They trade blows depending on the programm.

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the 1950x is a great cpu, if you are streaming or editing videos. Not the best bang for your buck in gaming. Neither are the i9s. But if you want raw power as both will be needing water cooling or a really good heatsink, go for the i9s as they also are really good in streaming and are better in gaming as you will enjoy with that noice titan x Pascal in 4k.

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