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General X58 Xeon/i7 discussion

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Yep. definitely fun for tweaking and tinkering. Downside is for it to keep up well with the new shiny, you have to put in time to do some tinkering and tweaking. Not everyone is going to want to do that, which is cool.


Weird, I guess, but cool.

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59 minutes ago, Intelfreak said:

About the overclock on X58. I can not agreed more. X58 is fun and more challenging to overclock cause its not just oc cores. If you wanna get the best out of X58, tweaking memory and ULCK/UNCORE is needed as well + voltage is also needed to be set right.

Facts. Had a guy on another thread complain X58 was tricky to OC but that's the point, it's a proper enthusiast platform, built for people who wanna tweak their system to get the absolute best performance possible from their hardware. 

53 minutes ago, bimmerman said:

Yep. definitely fun for tweaking and tinkering. Downside is for it to keep up well with the new shiny, you have to put in time to do some tinkering and tweaking. Not everyone is going to want to do that, which is cool.


Weird, I guess, but cool.

Yeah, if you're down for it it's pretty damn enjoyable. Especially the nice OC headroom on most Xeons, going from a stock speed of 3.02Ghz to 4.56GHz is pretty satisfying, whereas going from a stock boost of 4.25-4.3GHz on a 2700X to an OC of... 4.25-4.3GHz is pretty meh. That's all core vs single core boost but still it's not close to as satisfying once you're done. And no matter how hard you push that it won't go much higher, whereas I can push my X5670 harder or get a '75 in hopes of a better bin then eke more tasty GHz out of it. 


 If you wanna discuss the X58 platform and get tips and advice: General X58 Xeon/i7 discussion. If you want to discuss old Star Wars games like Battlefront II and KOTOR, check out my thread: Anyone still playing old Star Wars games? 

 

Long live his RGBness, @Damascus! And Fractal Design/SeaSonic dude, @Ordinarily_Greater is awesome as well! Also the man who introduced me to the glorious XCMR, @WhisperingKnickers.

 

X99 rig:

Spoiler

CPU: 5820K at 4.5-4.6Ghz, working on getting my OC 100% stable
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S
Motherboard: EVGA Classified X99
Memory: 32GB (4x8GB) HyperX Predator 3200MHz DDR4
Storage: 120GB HyperX Savage SSD, 2x 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm HDDs
GPU: Radeon VII
Case: Corsair Air 540, Black
PSU: EVGA 1000W G3

X58 rig: 

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CPU: X5670 at 4.56GHz/1.5v for now, planning to push higher on that voltage

CPU Cooler: Heatkiller IV CPU block and custom loop with 360mm slim rad
Motherboard: EVGA Classified 4-Way SLI X58 motherboard
Memory: 24GB HyperX Savage DDR3 (Red). Running ~1600MHz 10-10-10-28 for now, it'll to 9-9-9-24 but I'm planning to push to 2000MHz, thus the looser timings. 

Storage: ADATA SU800 128GB SSD, HyperX Savage 120GB SSD
GPU: MSI Gaming X 1080 Ti 11G 
Case: Mountain Mods mobo tray, PSU mount off etsy, some rad mounting hardware and a board of plywood and such from Lowes. 
PSU: Corsair RM1000i

Laptop:

Spoiler

Clevo P750TM1-G
Random Celeron, 8700K died so I gotta get my hands on an i5 8400

16GB 2400MHz DDR4

GTX 1070

250GB 960 Evo, 2TB Seagate Firecuda, 1TB Seagate Barracuda Pro

 

 

 

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so lemme toss some numbers after doing some research.

 

There is a source of ol' refurb Xeon's going around and a x5675 is around about $60 (a steal from the original like $1,400 lolz) a "Gammax 400" from "Deep Cool" (never used their products, so don't know quality) is anywhere from $24 to $50.       so about $90 averaging, a bit lower if I select cheaper fan,etc.  OH and a Xeon is a moot point if it won't work on my Asus P6T Deluxe (Version 1, original, not V2) which "officially" has a bios update back in 2010, as well as only showing support for i7's  https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/P6T_Deluxe/HelpDesk_CPU/

 

ryzen 3 2200G ~ $95, asus prime b350+ mobo ~ $99  8gb DDR 4 (3000) ~ $46 (x2 for 16GB) ~ $92 = $286 setting up a new cpu/mobo/ram (ddr 4, new socket, and cpu is better than current- I think)

 

The thing I wanna know here, is if I do get the xeon method, and OC the trickling electrons outta it to say the 4.0 or 4.2 or whatever Ghz -  how much benefit would I see?  I know we have to factor in "what GPU?" but let's say I got a 1080 or something stupid like an 2080 (it's stupid because of price, not features)   Is the Xeon going to perform something similar to the cheap Ryzen build at that point?   within 10% FPS let's say?     The AM4 has the option of upgrading to a Ryzen 7 down the road (or whatever else comes out) so a Ry 7 2700 for around $280 currently, and of course, 2 sticks of ram only eats of 1/2 the slots so easily upgrade to 32GB if needed (not for games, but 3d modeling, editing, etc, where as all 6 slots are currently in use now for a measely 12GB, and upgrading will be more expensive than DDr4)

 

personally I've dabbled in OC but this C0 i7 is just a pain and I never got much of an OC, I barely get it to run stable getting my ram at it's listed 1600oc instead of it's default. ANd even then, it get's pretty hot sometimes.  (so not a super enthusiast just wanted to get more life out of it because I am poor, given having the availability and option of income, I would easily go new system over tinkering with older in this case)

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Don't bother with a 2200G unless you want/need the igpu. I would scoop one of those dirt cheap 1st gen Ryzens for a low power quad core system, if you want to play games the 2600 is really just worth it.

 

X5675's are $29.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Intel-Xeon-X5675-3-06GHz-12M-Cache-Hex-6-SIX-Core-Processor-LGA1366-SLBYL-CPU/32760264745.html

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Xeon-X5675-SLBYL-3-06GHz-6-Core-LGA-1366-CPU-Processor-km/401727165236

 

If it supports a i7 980X and doesn't have an issue with the 2 QPI's like some EVGA boards, it's gonna support a X5675 or anything else that uses the 206C2 microcode like the $8.50 E5649 and other Westmere hexcores. Nehalems suck, my bunk i7 930 barely made 3.8ghz and I only bought this hardware in 2010 to get that 4ghz number.

 

You're not always going to get better FPS than newer platforms, some games just want a few nice fast threads while other games the more threads you throw at it, the happier it is. X58 is a great platform, but it's biggest strength is that you already own it or got it for cheap and throwing like $50 at it for a better cpu and/or ram really wakes it up and transforms it into something that's fairly strong still. If you want some benchmarks, here's some 3dmark scores I've taken. There's going to be a lot lower fps lows with worse frame times, ect than new platforms but new platforms cost at least 10x what updating a X58 platform costs.

 

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/14238576 X5660+GTX 1070 FTW

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/14345455 X5660+R9 280(non-x)

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/34350425 6700K+GTX 970

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/28039369 X5675+GTX 970(not the same 970)

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/28040225 X5675+GTX 1080

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/28886013 X5675+GTX 1080 with an unstable gpu overclock

 

I checked the latest version of your bios, it has the revision 13 of the 206C2 microcode which is a known good, working microcode that doesn't have issues with changing the uncore multi, ect. You'll be good to go after a bios update to run any cpu that uses any of the microcodes listed unless for some reason your board is known not to work with a certain cpu. Which it isn't as the P6T family are like the most popular X58 motherboards out there.

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@Slayer3032  thanks so much for the input,   I've had the most terrible luck with purchases lately so I really want to get something to enjoy instead of just "return it and try again" - been on this battle since June since the money I am using is from my "birthday and christmas" from 2018.

 

(Edited to clean up wasted space quote so the thread isn't so crazy.)

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7 hours ago, Slayer3032 said:

Nehalems suck

Not all. In my binning I've recently stumbled over some insane Nehalem chips. I've found a W3520 that runs Superpi 32m at 4.83/1.33V, better then any Westmere chip I've ever had (about 60 by now). To be fair, that W3520 is the best out of about 40 chips but still. Also can easily do about 5 GHz uncore at 1.6V VTT on Dry Ice.


Xeon e5649@4.4 GHz on Asus Rampage II Extreme or Gigabyte x58a-OC (whatever I feel like to set up at a time) , 6x4 GB Kingston HyperX 1600, Gainward GTX 670 Phantom, Samsung 840 Evo 240 GB, BeQuiet L8 530W

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13 hours ago, Ground said:

Not all. In my binning I've recently stumbled over some insane Nehalem chips. I've found a W3520 that runs Superpi 32m at 4.83/1.33V, better then any Westmere chip I've ever had (about 60 by now). To be fair, that W3520 is the best out of about 40 chips but still. Also can easily do about 5 GHz uncore at 1.6V VTT on Dry Ice.

I feel like the more common i7 Nehalems suck, I've always heard more disappointing stories about Nehalem overclocking than positive ones. The Xeons must be significantly better binned since I couldn't even hit 4ghz stable enough for a Cinebench on my i7-930 with as much voltage as I felt comfortable dumping into it. Nehalem definitely has an advantage with it's stronger IMC/Uncore.

 

Maybe I'll have to grab one to replace my backup's backup since I might have a line on a P6T SE and I'll be putting my backup Westmere into that. What do you think about the Westmere quads compared to the Nehalems?

 

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14 hours ago, Slayer3032 said:

I feel like the more common i7 Nehalems suck, I've always heard more disappointing stories about Nehalem overclocking than positive ones. The Xeons must be significantly better binned since I couldn't even hit 4ghz stable enough for a Cinebench on my i7-930 with as much voltage as I felt comfortable dumping into it. Nehalem definitely has an advantage with it's stronger IMC/Uncore.

 

Maybe I'll have to grab one to replace my backup's backup since I might have a line on a P6T SE and I'll be putting my backup Westmere into that. What do you think about the Westmere quads compared to the Nehalems?

 

Westmere quads on average should be better then average Nehalem quads tbh, the one I found was just a really rare find. The next best chip is about 300 MHz worse at the same voltage from said 40 chips.

For Westmere quads I can recommend the E5640, those are usually cheap and loads of fun. Have one that does 4.76 R15 at 1.4V :D


Xeon e5649@4.4 GHz on Asus Rampage II Extreme or Gigabyte x58a-OC (whatever I feel like to set up at a time) , 6x4 GB Kingston HyperX 1600, Gainward GTX 670 Phantom, Samsung 840 Evo 240 GB, BeQuiet L8 530W

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Almost done building my X58 rig. Just need a graphics card (it'll most likely be a STRIX GTX 770).

 

Also, I'm having a ton of trouble getting the motherboard aligned with the case standoffs when the I/O plate is installed. Hence, it's not installed atm.


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I am curious to know how hot others CPU are at full load and is it running stock or overclock overclock and cooling type used.

 

My I7 980X runs 4.4 GHz but its not the greates overclocker as it needs 1.41 volts for that.

My cooling setup is air with a Noctua NH-D14 with 3 x noctua nf-f12 ippc-3000 pwm fans and thermal grizzly kryonaut cooling paste.

Its because i am thinking on if i shut move over to water cooling or keep my current cooling setup and maybe try to spank some higher clocks out of my old CPU.

 

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My max temps are about 73C after 8+ hours of 100% load in AIDA64 or Prime95. X5670 at 4.57Ghz, on 1.45v IIRC. 100% stable so far though (in CB20 too, I can push 4.74Ghz or so with a bit more voltage and it's stable in CB15 but CB20 crashes). 

 

Here's my setup rn:

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360mm slim rad with 2000rpm Noctua iPPC fans, Heatkiller IV CPU block. Have another Noctua over the VRM heatsink as you can see, and a random one on the northbridge heatsink, have 3 40x15mm Noctuas coming for that and the VRMs. 


 If you wanna discuss the X58 platform and get tips and advice: General X58 Xeon/i7 discussion. If you want to discuss old Star Wars games like Battlefront II and KOTOR, check out my thread: Anyone still playing old Star Wars games? 

 

Long live his RGBness, @Damascus! And Fractal Design/SeaSonic dude, @Ordinarily_Greater is awesome as well! Also the man who introduced me to the glorious XCMR, @WhisperingKnickers.

 

X99 rig:

Spoiler

CPU: 5820K at 4.5-4.6Ghz, working on getting my OC 100% stable
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S
Motherboard: EVGA Classified X99
Memory: 32GB (4x8GB) HyperX Predator 3200MHz DDR4
Storage: 120GB HyperX Savage SSD, 2x 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm HDDs
GPU: Radeon VII
Case: Corsair Air 540, Black
PSU: EVGA 1000W G3

X58 rig: 

Spoiler

CPU: X5670 at 4.56GHz/1.5v for now, planning to push higher on that voltage

CPU Cooler: Heatkiller IV CPU block and custom loop with 360mm slim rad
Motherboard: EVGA Classified 4-Way SLI X58 motherboard
Memory: 24GB HyperX Savage DDR3 (Red). Running ~1600MHz 10-10-10-28 for now, it'll to 9-9-9-24 but I'm planning to push to 2000MHz, thus the looser timings. 

Storage: ADATA SU800 128GB SSD, HyperX Savage 120GB SSD
GPU: MSI Gaming X 1080 Ti 11G 
Case: Mountain Mods mobo tray, PSU mount off etsy, some rad mounting hardware and a board of plywood and such from Lowes. 
PSU: Corsair RM1000i

Laptop:

Spoiler

Clevo P750TM1-G
Random Celeron, 8700K died so I gotta get my hands on an i5 8400

16GB 2400MHz DDR4

GTX 1070

250GB 960 Evo, 2TB Seagate Firecuda, 1TB Seagate Barracuda Pro

 

 

 

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I actually have data! These are what I could pull from old posts, so they are not current.

 

System stats at time of testing:

X5675

24GB of ram at 8x multiplier IIRC

240mm AIO -- Cooler Master

Gigabyte UD3R

R9 290 for first two, 1080ti for last.

Coolermaster HAF-932 Case

Coolermaster 850W

 

Testing constraints: QPI_VTT never exceeded 1.35 V, CPU Vcore < 1.4V

 

Datapoint 1: 4.7 GHz (23x205), 1.39 V, T_max of 68 C

fastest cinebench.jpg

 

Datapoint 2: 4.6 GHz (23x200), 1.328 V, T_max of 62 C (firestrike not cinebench though)

fastest firestrike.jpg

 

Datapoint 3: 4.51 GHz (21x215), 1.328 V. This has the 1080ti installed but I think is before I installed the NVMe 950 Pro and Windows 10. Apparently I didn't take temp readings. This is the GHz setting I normally use.

Firestrike 1080ti 4.51GHz Xeon.JPG

 

My chip could probably do higher GHz if I wanted to throw more volts, it definitely isn't temp limited. While the above temps aren't long term stress tests, they are from multiple back to back runs and fiddling, so I would expect the AIO fluid is as nice and toasty as it'll get.

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7 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

My max temps are about 73C after 8+ hours of 100% load in AIDA64 or Prime95. X5670 at 4.57Ghz, on 1.45v IIRC. 100% stable so far though (in CB20 too, I can push 4.74Ghz or so with a bit more voltage and it's stable in CB15 but CB20 crashes). 

 

Here's my setup rn:

IMG_0038.thumb.JPG.4fc3ac70ad704c8f77d63fd7183c236d.JPG

 

360mm slim rad with 2000rpm Noctua iPPC fans, Heatkiller IV CPU block. Have another Noctua over the VRM heatsink as you can see, and a random one on the northbridge heatsink, have 3 40x15mm Noctuas coming for that and the VRMs. 

I have also been running my CPU above 4.7 GHz air cooled, but i can say for sure it is also burning hot at those clocks and volts.

 

Looks like if i go water cooling, i can push some more out of my CPU then. Good to know.

 

Yes good idea with fan on the VRM´s and heatsink. Also because since you run water cooling, there are now airflow else around the VRM and heatsink. Also X58 chipsæt is know for being hot when it gets overclock to high clocks. I as well put some fans on the heat sink.

 

This is my current rig and some benchmarks.

https://imgur.com/a/NLahrg9

https://imgur.com/a/uHjbbMg

 

 

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14 minutes ago, bimmerman said:

I actually have data! These are what I could pull from old posts, so they are not current.

 

System stats at time of testing:

X5675

24GB of ram at 8x multiplier IIRC

240mm AIO -- Cooler Master

Gigabyte UD3R

R9 290 for first two, 1080ti for last.

Coolermaster HAF-932 Case

Coolermaster 850W

 

Testing constraints: QPI_VTT never exceeded 1.35 V, CPU Vcore < 1.4V

 

Datapoint 1: 4.7 GHz (23x205), 1.39 V, T_max of 68 C

fastest cinebench.jpg

 

Datapoint 2: 4.6 GHz (23x200), 1.328 V, T_max of 62 C (firestrike not cinebench though)

fastest firestrike.jpg

 

Datapoint 3: 4.51 GHz (21x215), 1.328 V. This has the 1080ti installed but I think is before I installed the NVMe 950 Pro and Windows 10. Apparently I didn't take temp readings. This is the GHz setting I normally use.

Firestrike 1080ti 4.51GHz Xeon.JPG

 

My chip could probably do higher GHz if I wanted to throw more volts, it definitely isn't temp limited. While the above temps aren't long term stress tests, they are from multiple back to back runs and fiddling, so I would expect the AIO fluid is as nice and toasty as it'll get.

Nice scores and temp. Looks like you got one of the good Xeons.I can push my CPU to those clock to, but it needs way higher voltage to do 4.7 GHz. Lets just say at 4.7 GHz my CPU whas on the brink to thermal throttle.

 

To a comparison here are some of my scores.

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CPU only ran 4.25 GHz here, because this whas before i replaced the cpu coolers stock fans.

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Here with CPU at 4.7 GHz and GPU overclock to the limit just before it will crash.

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30 minutes ago, Intelfreak said:

I have also been running my CPU above 4.7 GHz air cooled, but i can say for sure it is also burning hot at those clocks and volts.

 

Looks like if i go water cooling, i can push some more out of my CPU then. Good to know.

 

Yes good idea with fan on the VRM´s and heatsink. Also because since you run water cooling, there are now airflow else around the VRM and heatsink. Also X58 chipsæt is know for being hot when it gets overclock to high clocks. I as well put some fans on the heat sink.

 

This is my current rig and some benchmarks.

https://imgur.com/a/NLahrg9

https://imgur.com/a/uHjbbMg

 

 

Yeah the northbridges can get pretty toasty, though the hottest I've seen any of the components get according to HWmonitor is 62C. Pumping gnarly voltages through everything too. 


 If you wanna discuss the X58 platform and get tips and advice: General X58 Xeon/i7 discussion. If you want to discuss old Star Wars games like Battlefront II and KOTOR, check out my thread: Anyone still playing old Star Wars games? 

 

Long live his RGBness, @Damascus! And Fractal Design/SeaSonic dude, @Ordinarily_Greater is awesome as well! Also the man who introduced me to the glorious XCMR, @WhisperingKnickers.

 

X99 rig:

Spoiler

CPU: 5820K at 4.5-4.6Ghz, working on getting my OC 100% stable
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S
Motherboard: EVGA Classified X99
Memory: 32GB (4x8GB) HyperX Predator 3200MHz DDR4
Storage: 120GB HyperX Savage SSD, 2x 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm HDDs
GPU: Radeon VII
Case: Corsair Air 540, Black
PSU: EVGA 1000W G3

X58 rig: 

Spoiler

CPU: X5670 at 4.56GHz/1.5v for now, planning to push higher on that voltage

CPU Cooler: Heatkiller IV CPU block and custom loop with 360mm slim rad
Motherboard: EVGA Classified 4-Way SLI X58 motherboard
Memory: 24GB HyperX Savage DDR3 (Red). Running ~1600MHz 10-10-10-28 for now, it'll to 9-9-9-24 but I'm planning to push to 2000MHz, thus the looser timings. 

Storage: ADATA SU800 128GB SSD, HyperX Savage 120GB SSD
GPU: MSI Gaming X 1080 Ti 11G 
Case: Mountain Mods mobo tray, PSU mount off etsy, some rad mounting hardware and a board of plywood and such from Lowes. 
PSU: Corsair RM1000i

Laptop:

Spoiler

Clevo P750TM1-G
Random Celeron, 8700K died so I gotta get my hands on an i5 8400

16GB 2400MHz DDR4

GTX 1070

250GB 960 Evo, 2TB Seagate Firecuda, 1TB Seagate Barracuda Pro

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Yeah the northbridges can get pretty toasty, though the hottest I've seen any of the components get according to HWmonitor is 62C. Pumping gnarly voltages through everything too. 

The heat sink on my motherboard is also pretty good, but the summers where i live can get pretty hot and temperature around 30 degree celsius or 86 degree fahrenheit is not a rare thing. And before i mounted the fans (stock northbridge heatsink is passive cooled from factory), i saw temp up to around 75 degree celsius on the northbridge heatsink, so i had to do some thing. To a comparison here in the colder winter northbridge heatsink stayes around between 40 and 50 degree celsius with fans turned of. While in the summer with fans on temp dropped 15 degree celsius at lowest fan speed. At max fan speed temp can drop 10 degree celsius more if needed.

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6 minutes ago, Intelfreak said:

The heat sink on my motherboard is also pretty good, but the summers where i live can get pretty hot and temperature around 30 degree celsius or 86 degree fahrenheit is not a rare thing. And before i mounted the fans (stock northbridge heatsink is passive cooled from factory), i saw temp up to around 75 degree celsius on the northbridge heatsink, so i had to do some thing. To a comparison here in the colder winter northbridge heatsink stayes around between 40 and 50 degree celsius with fans turned of. While in the summer with fans on temp dropped 15 degree celsius at lowest fan speed. At max fan speed temp can drop 10 degree celsius more if needed.

Yeah, I can max the fans to drop temps a bit as well but then my rig goes from loud to full jet engine mode, lol. Planning to run them all off my fan controller in the future, have a basic 4 fan one. Gonna see if it can handle 40mm fans on a splitter then run them all off that, it has dials so I can set them to a constant RPM that's as high as it goes without being annoyingly loud. Mobo fan controls don't seem to do much at all. 


 If you wanna discuss the X58 platform and get tips and advice: General X58 Xeon/i7 discussion. If you want to discuss old Star Wars games like Battlefront II and KOTOR, check out my thread: Anyone still playing old Star Wars games? 

 

Long live his RGBness, @Damascus! And Fractal Design/SeaSonic dude, @Ordinarily_Greater is awesome as well! Also the man who introduced me to the glorious XCMR, @WhisperingKnickers.

 

X99 rig:

Spoiler

CPU: 5820K at 4.5-4.6Ghz, working on getting my OC 100% stable
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S
Motherboard: EVGA Classified X99
Memory: 32GB (4x8GB) HyperX Predator 3200MHz DDR4
Storage: 120GB HyperX Savage SSD, 2x 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm HDDs
GPU: Radeon VII
Case: Corsair Air 540, Black
PSU: EVGA 1000W G3

X58 rig: 

Spoiler

CPU: X5670 at 4.56GHz/1.5v for now, planning to push higher on that voltage

CPU Cooler: Heatkiller IV CPU block and custom loop with 360mm slim rad
Motherboard: EVGA Classified 4-Way SLI X58 motherboard
Memory: 24GB HyperX Savage DDR3 (Red). Running ~1600MHz 10-10-10-28 for now, it'll to 9-9-9-24 but I'm planning to push to 2000MHz, thus the looser timings. 

Storage: ADATA SU800 128GB SSD, HyperX Savage 120GB SSD
GPU: MSI Gaming X 1080 Ti 11G 
Case: Mountain Mods mobo tray, PSU mount off etsy, some rad mounting hardware and a board of plywood and such from Lowes. 
PSU: Corsair RM1000i

Laptop:

Spoiler

Clevo P750TM1-G
Random Celeron, 8700K died so I gotta get my hands on an i5 8400

16GB 2400MHz DDR4

GTX 1070

250GB 960 Evo, 2TB Seagate Firecuda, 1TB Seagate Barracuda Pro

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Zando Bob said:

My max temps are about 73C after 8+ hours of 100% load in AIDA64 or Prime95. X5670 at 4.57Ghz, on 1.45v IIRC. 100% stable so far though (in CB20 too, I can push 4.74Ghz or so with a bit more voltage and it's stable in CB15 but CB20 crashes). 

Very nice to see a Classy 4-Way again, don't come acress them often nowadays. I regret selling mine, was a sweet combo with a 980X at 4.3GHz 1.375V and DDR3 2000 Dominators though my cooling setup was way inferior to your custom loop lol. The only let down for me was the lack of SATA 3.

 

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i7 2600K 4.3GHz - GTX Titan 6GB  - ASRock Z77 WS - 16GB DDR3-1600 CL9 Dual Channel - EIZO Foris FG2421 (120Hz VA)

Intel Skulltrail: 2x Core 2 Quad QX9775 - Intel D5400XS - 16GB FB DDR2-800 CL5 Quad Channel - 2x EVGA GTX 570 2560MB SLI

EVGA SR-2 Classified - 2x Xeon X5675 - 24GB DDR3 Triple Channel

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Yeah, I can max the fans to drop temps a bit as well but then my rig goes from loud to full jet engine mode, lol. Planning to run them all off my fan controller in the future, have a basic 4 fan one. Gonna see if it can handle 40mm fans on a splitter then run them all off that, it has dials so I can set them to a constant RPM that's as high as it goes without being annoyingly loud. Mobo fan controls don't seem to do much at all. 

Yeah motherboard fan control sucks at times. Thats why i have two fan controller in my setup. The top controller is a PWM controller with software so i can make fan curves and it works great and controls case and CPU cooler fans, while the controller below takes care of the northbridge heatsink and the two fans next to GPU and is voltage controlled.

 

Yeah i know what you mean with noise. The black 40 MM fans i have runs at around 1800-1900 RPM at the lowest and at max around 4300 RPM while the 60 MM noctua fans runs at 1400 RPM at low and at max around 3000 RPM.

 

From what i have learned about fan control with Voltage and PWM. There is no douts that PWM is far better and more precise. So if you are gonna get a new controller, get one with PWM and that has software control. It is so much better. My next PC will be fully PWM controlled.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Overl0rd said:

Very nice to see a Classy 4-Way again, don't come acress them often nowadays. I regret selling mine, was a sweet combo with a 980X at 4.3GHz 1.375V and DDR3 2000 Dominators though my cooling setup was way inferior to your custom loop lol. The only let down for me was the lack of SATA 3.

Nice! Mine was still brand new too, didn't have the box or anything but the board itself had never been used. Had to do the Westmere-EP mod since it's a V1.0, but it's a beast. I have a 3 way I got for $89 with an i7 920, that's also a V1.0 and I need to mod that too. And oooo Dominators, they're some of the coolest looking RAM out there. I have 3x8GB HyperX Savage in red (overpaid for the third DIMM so it'd match my other two, lol) at about 2050Mhz 10-11-11-30, haven't been able to cut timings lower. They're 1600Mhz 9-9-9-24 DIMMs IIRC. 

 

4 minutes ago, Intelfreak said:

Yeah motherboard fan control sucks at times. Thats why i have two fan controller in my setup. The top controller is a PWM controller with software so i can make fan curves and it works great and controls case and CPU cooler fans, while the controller below takes care of the northbridge heatsink and the two fans next to GPU and is voltage controlled.

 

Yeah i know what you mean with noise. The black 40 MM fans i have runs at around 1800-1900 RPM at the lowest and at max around 4300 RPM while the 60 MM noctua fans runs at 1400 RPM at low and at max around 3000 RPM.

 

From what i have learned about fan control with Voltage and PWM. There is no douts that PWM is far better and more precise. So if you are gonna get a new controller, get one with PWM and that has software control. It is so much better. My next PC will be fully PWM controlled.

My fans are still 3 pins though, and I tend to just run a static RPM all the time so is there really any reason to go for PWM with that use case? Only ones I have ramp up/down are the GPU fans. 


 If you wanna discuss the X58 platform and get tips and advice: General X58 Xeon/i7 discussion. If you want to discuss old Star Wars games like Battlefront II and KOTOR, check out my thread: Anyone still playing old Star Wars games? 

 

Long live his RGBness, @Damascus! And Fractal Design/SeaSonic dude, @Ordinarily_Greater is awesome as well! Also the man who introduced me to the glorious XCMR, @WhisperingKnickers.

 

X99 rig:

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CPU: 5820K at 4.5-4.6Ghz, working on getting my OC 100% stable
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S
Motherboard: EVGA Classified X99
Memory: 32GB (4x8GB) HyperX Predator 3200MHz DDR4
Storage: 120GB HyperX Savage SSD, 2x 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm HDDs
GPU: Radeon VII
Case: Corsair Air 540, Black
PSU: EVGA 1000W G3

X58 rig: 

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CPU: X5670 at 4.56GHz/1.5v for now, planning to push higher on that voltage

CPU Cooler: Heatkiller IV CPU block and custom loop with 360mm slim rad
Motherboard: EVGA Classified 4-Way SLI X58 motherboard
Memory: 24GB HyperX Savage DDR3 (Red). Running ~1600MHz 10-10-10-28 for now, it'll to 9-9-9-24 but I'm planning to push to 2000MHz, thus the looser timings. 

Storage: ADATA SU800 128GB SSD, HyperX Savage 120GB SSD
GPU: MSI Gaming X 1080 Ti 11G 
Case: Mountain Mods mobo tray, PSU mount off etsy, some rad mounting hardware and a board of plywood and such from Lowes. 
PSU: Corsair RM1000i

Laptop:

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Clevo P750TM1-G
Random Celeron, 8700K died so I gotta get my hands on an i5 8400

16GB 2400MHz DDR4

GTX 1070

250GB 960 Evo, 2TB Seagate Firecuda, 1TB Seagate Barracuda Pro

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Nice! Mine was still brand new too, didn't have the box or anything but the board itself had never been used. Had to do the Westmere-EP mod since it's a V1.0, but it's a beast. I have a 3 way I got for $89 with an i7 920, that's also a V1.0 and I need to mod that too. And oooo Dominators, they're some of the coolest looking RAM out there. I have 3x8GB HyperX Savage in red (overpaid for the third DIMM so it'd match my other two, lol) at about 2050Mhz 10-11-11-30, haven't been able to cut timings lower. They're 1600Mhz 9-9-9-24 DIMMs IIRC. 

 

My fans are still 3 pins though, and I tend to just run a static RPM all the time so is there really any reason to go for PWM with that use case? Only ones I have ramp up/down are the GPU fans. 

In your system as a open build. No i dont think pwm is needed. Its more if you put it in a closed case like my system, you dont want fans running on a fixed speed.

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1 minute ago, Intelfreak said:

In your system as a open build. No i dont think pwm is needed. Its more if you put it in a closed case like my system, you dont want fans running on a fixed speed.

For any reason other than noise? I set mine to static when I was running that rad and the same fans on a loop for my 2700X and Vega FE in a Phanteks Evolv ATX TG.


 If you wanna discuss the X58 platform and get tips and advice: General X58 Xeon/i7 discussion. If you want to discuss old Star Wars games like Battlefront II and KOTOR, check out my thread: Anyone still playing old Star Wars games? 

 

Long live his RGBness, @Damascus! And Fractal Design/SeaSonic dude, @Ordinarily_Greater is awesome as well! Also the man who introduced me to the glorious XCMR, @WhisperingKnickers.

 

X99 rig:

Spoiler

CPU: 5820K at 4.5-4.6Ghz, working on getting my OC 100% stable
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S
Motherboard: EVGA Classified X99
Memory: 32GB (4x8GB) HyperX Predator 3200MHz DDR4
Storage: 120GB HyperX Savage SSD, 2x 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm HDDs
GPU: Radeon VII
Case: Corsair Air 540, Black
PSU: EVGA 1000W G3

X58 rig: 

Spoiler

CPU: X5670 at 4.56GHz/1.5v for now, planning to push higher on that voltage

CPU Cooler: Heatkiller IV CPU block and custom loop with 360mm slim rad
Motherboard: EVGA Classified 4-Way SLI X58 motherboard
Memory: 24GB HyperX Savage DDR3 (Red). Running ~1600MHz 10-10-10-28 for now, it'll to 9-9-9-24 but I'm planning to push to 2000MHz, thus the looser timings. 

Storage: ADATA SU800 128GB SSD, HyperX Savage 120GB SSD
GPU: MSI Gaming X 1080 Ti 11G 
Case: Mountain Mods mobo tray, PSU mount off etsy, some rad mounting hardware and a board of plywood and such from Lowes. 
PSU: Corsair RM1000i

Laptop:

Spoiler

Clevo P750TM1-G
Random Celeron, 8700K died so I gotta get my hands on an i5 8400

16GB 2400MHz DDR4

GTX 1070

250GB 960 Evo, 2TB Seagate Firecuda, 1TB Seagate Barracuda Pro

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Zando Bob said:

For any reason other than noise? I set mine to static when I was running that rad and the same fans on a loop for my 2700X and Vega FE in a Phanteks Evolv ATX TG.

Yeah for noise, but also for airflow. At low load you dont want to listen to fans noise, so thanks to pwm i cat set fan ilde rpm all between 400 and 2400 rpm for case fans while cpu fans is between 300 and 3000 rpm.

 

While when you have high load on your system like benchmark or gaming, you need to ramp up fan speed else the air inside the case will be hot and that will increase temp on cpu, gpu and motherboard heat sink. Cause in a closed case, there are only the fans to move the air, else the air will just be trap inside and get hotter and hotter.

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8 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Nice! Mine was still brand new too, didn't have the box or anything but the board itself had never been used. Had to do the Westmere-EP mod since it's a V1.0, but it's a beast. I have a 3 way I got for $89 with an i7 920, that's also a V1.0 and I need to mod that too. And oooo Dominators, they're some of the coolest looking RAM out there. I have 3x8GB HyperX Savage in red (overpaid for the third DIMM so it'd match my other two, lol) at about 2050Mhz 10-11-11-30, haven't been able to cut timings lower. They're 1600Mhz 9-9-9-24 DIMMs IIRC. 

Sweet! New old stock is always a great find. The Dominators were awesome; 3x2GB 2000MHz at 7-7-7-20, but with only 6GB total you do would really need two kits of those nowadays. 2050 10-11-11-30 on 1600 CL9 kits is quite a push for those already. Unfortunately it's just really difficult to find matching triple channel kits with high frequency and capacity.


There's a time and place for everything! But not now. - Professor Oak

i7 2600K 4.3GHz - GTX Titan 6GB  - ASRock Z77 WS - 16GB DDR3-1600 CL9 Dual Channel - EIZO Foris FG2421 (120Hz VA)

Intel Skulltrail: 2x Core 2 Quad QX9775 - Intel D5400XS - 16GB FB DDR2-800 CL5 Quad Channel - 2x EVGA GTX 570 2560MB SLI

EVGA SR-2 Classified - 2x Xeon X5675 - 24GB DDR3 Triple Channel

 

 

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