General Intel HEDT Xeon/i7 Discussion

[Guest]

46 minutes ago, Troika said:

A 770 would be caparable to a 1050/1050 Ti. Especially if you had the 4gb varient.

No kidding! Never have looked to compare it to something that modern.

 

The GTX 770 is in my bench rig right now with an 8700k. 

I have it backed by a GTX 580 and Ageia physx PPU as of lately been playing with phsyx SDKs. 

 

The 770 clocks horribly even on my geothermal loop, I put the stock cooler on it for the same results. Hoping to get over to TPU forums and find a better bios for it. The specs off my head cant remember if its a 4gb card or not. When I get home Ill have a look. But it is EVGA and I believe off my head its a 2gb card though....

[Crunchy Dragon]

2 hours ago, Troika said:

I'm aware of its potential. I had reference models but even those could take a pretty solid oc. My best one could take 200mhz on the core and 450mhz on the memory. In SLI, I could do 180mhz on the core and 400mhz on the memory because the second card wasn't as good of a bin. Honestly, I don't mind the blower cooler either because two of them in a system together looked so baller. The reference cooler looked so nice and that vapor chamber heatsink wasn't a slouch either!

Oh for sure.

 

My reference card took 245Mhz on the core and I think 125Mhz on the memory. Never did SLI, but I've still got it in case I ever decide to...

[Crunchy Dragon]

2 hours ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Replaced my 770 for a 980 for 1080p gaming. A vast improvement on triple A titles though..... 50% better performance actually.

Definitely.

 

I was initially looking at a 980 or 980Ti until the 1070 I ended up buying rolled along, haha.

Long Live Kepler?

[GrockleTD]

Should be the last visual difference for a while, so here we go 

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Definitely.

 

I was initially looking at a 980 or 980Ti until the 1070 I ended up buying rolled along, haha.

Long Live Kepler?

So far so good. I have a modded bios for it, 1500mhz boost on the stock air cooler. 1800mhz memory frequency and I asked to have the fan profile changed from 0% rpm to 30% rpm at idle. This card is a monster. I wish it was a TI for the 6GB, but it overclocks so well.... It almost makes up for it. Asus Strix. 

 

I stopped dropping hundreds of dollars on single cards a long time ago. I can easily pick up another 980 for cheap, SLI and get FPS. Yea the energy cost..... I really don't give a rats behind about that really. Some people this is a factor. 

 

When the 3080 gets released, I'll be looking to see how the prices drop on 1080 or 1080ti. Or 1070/ti. 

[Crunchy Dragon]

2 hours ago, ShrimpBrime said:

So far so good. I have a modded bios for it, 1500mhz boost on the stock air cooler. 1800mhz memory frequency and I asked to have the fan profile changed from 0% rpm to 30% rpm at idle. This card is a monster. I wish it was a TI for the 6GB, but it overclocks so well.... It almost makes up for it. Asus Strix. 

 

I stopped dropping hundreds of dollars on single cards a long time ago. I can easily pick up another 980 for cheap, SLI and get FPS. Yea the energy cost..... I really don't give a rats behind about that really. Some people this is a factor. 

 

When the 3080 gets released, I'll be looking to see how the prices drop on 1080 or 1080ti. Or 1070/ti. 

I got my 1070 for $225 shipped, EVGA SC Black Edition.

[bomerr]

E5-1650 v3 (i7-5820k) is as good as a Ryzen 3600, slightly better in gaming.

 

[Crunchy Dragon]

1 hour ago, bomerr said:

E5-1650 v3 (i7-5820k) is as good as a Ryzen 3600, slightly better in gaming.

 

That doesn't surprise me, my 5820K at stock was a little bit better than my Ryzen 5 1600 at 3.8Ghz.

[GrockleTD]

8 hours ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

I got my 1070 for $225 shipped, EVGA SC Black Edition.

Got my 1070Ti strix for 256

[the pudding]

I was looking at 980Ti's too but they're still around the£170-£200 mark here, I stumbled across a vega 56 with samsung memory for £195 shipped so i snagged that and I've already got it outperforming my old 1080 (she died a while back so I've been stuck on an RX 580 since then near enough) 

[bomerr]

2 hours ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

That doesn't surprise me, my 5820K at stock was a little bit better than my Ryzen 5 1600 at 3.8Ghz.

here are my benchmarks. CPU-Z has my 5820k @ 4.7Ghz = R5 3600. 

 

https://valid.x86.fr/kdqjkm

 

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/10249263

 

 

E5-2640 v3 (8C/16T @ 3.4Ghz) is equivalent to Ryzen 7 2700 

[Troika]

I'm upto 4.4Ghz at 1.35V. I set my ram to 2400mhz but only runs at 2000mhz. I guess the IMC won't let them run any faster. Or maybe its something else in the system slowing them down. I have Uncore at 3400mhz. I might try cranking that up a bit. At least its stable in prime95. 83C max temp under full load but its stable.

 

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/21575635

[Troika]

Also, aparently an i7 970 at 4.4Ghz is within margin of error against a i7 6700k at 4.8Ghz. :3c I feel pretty good about my results so far and I know I can probably stablize 4.6Ghz if I add more vcore but my H110i GTX just isn't upto the task to cool that high of an overclock. I need better cooling. My only options are a 360mm AIO, a Noctua D-15 (or similar cooler), or a 360mm open loop. Or a chiller of some sort but that wouldn't be practical for daily use.

 

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/21575635/fs/20379617#

[Crunchy Dragon]

3 hours ago, bomerr said:

here are my benchmarks. CPU-Z has my 5820k @ 4.7Ghz = R5 3600. 

 

E5-2640 v3 (8C/16T @ 3.4Ghz) is equivalent to Ryzen 7 2700 

Makes sense to me.

 

Wonder how a 5960X compares against a 2700.

[Slayer3032]

4 hours ago, Troika said:

Also, aparently an i7 970 at 4.4Ghz is within margin of error against a i7 6700k at 4.8Ghz. :3c I feel pretty good about my results so far and I know I can probably stablize 4.6Ghz if I add more vcore but my H110i GTX just isn't upto the task to cool that high of an overclock. I need better cooling. My only options are a 360mm AIO, a Noctua D-15 (or similar cooler), or a 360mm open loop. Or a chiller of some sort but that wouldn't be practical for daily use.

 

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/21575635/fs/20379617#

I really like the comparison of beating a i5 9600k, it shows how important hyperthreading is.

[bomerr]

17 hours ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Makes sense to me.

 

Wonder how a 5960X compares against a 2700.

faster than 2700. 5960x/1660 v3 @ 4.4GHz are at least as fast as the 2700X in gaming, if not slightly faster. 

 

 

[Troika]

4 hours ago, Slayer3032 said:

I really like the comparison of beating a i5 9600k, it shows how important hyperthreading is.

I'm only 11% behind a 9600K at 5.3Ghz. I think I can close that gap with better cooling. :3c

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/19775259/fs/21575635#

[the pudding]

9 hours ago, Troika said:

I'm only 11% behind a 9600K at 5.3Ghz. I think I can close that gap with better cooling. :3c

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/19775259/fs/21575635#

yeah honestly these are still really solid cpus, if only for a short period of time you could pump in around 1.55v and really pump up the clocks (don't do this for a long period of time though) in my best vega 56 score i ever managed on X58 I was running 4.8GHz 1.52v but you don't want to be running that often or for a long time 

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/20193056 (though I'm sitting at nearly 20k on a flashed vega 56 and 4930K now) 

[bomerr]

23 minutes ago, the pudding said:

yeah honestly these are still really solid cpus, if only for a short period of time you could pump in around 1.55v and really pump up the clocks (don't do this for a long period of time though) in my best vega 56 score i ever managed on X58 I was running 4.8GHz 1.52v but you don't want to be running that often or for a long time 

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/20193056 (though I'm sitting at nearly 20k on a flashed vega 56 and 4930K now) 

test time spy. 

[the pudding]

1 minute ago, bomerr said:

test time spy. 

Next time I boot into my benching install I'll be running the whole suite near enough, might not be till the weekend though mind you 

[Skunch]

Word up! So glad to see X58 users! I'm a PC builder myself, but I have never overclocked out of fear of bricking my stuff. I'd love to learn though, and this thread is extremely helpful! Here's my system specs:

 

i7 980X Stock frequency

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo

Asus Rampage III Formula

24GB Kingston HyperX Black 1866

GTX 970

Samsung 950 PRO NVMe 512GB

2TB WD Green

Win 10 Pro x64

700w Thermaltake PSU

[Zando_]

4 hours ago, Skunch said:

Word up! So glad to see X58 users! I'm a PC builder myself, but I have never overclocked out of fear of bricking my stuff. I'd love to learn though, and this thread is extremely helpful! Here's my system specs:

 

i7 980X Stock frequency

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo

Asus Rampage III Formula

24GB Kingston HyperX Black 1866

GTX 970

Samsung 950 PRO NVMe 512GB

2TB WD Green

Win 10 Pro x64

700w Thermaltake PSU

Welcome to the club! And ooh nice mobo, my first X58 board was an R3F. Still the best BIOS I've ever had the pleasure of using, pushed my X5675 to 4.4-4.5Ghz easily. 

As for bricking your stuff, 32nm chips can easily swallow 1.45v for extended periods, I'd stick around 1.4v for a daily on air though, especially if it's your only rig. I've seen stuff saying the 45nm parts can take 1.5v daily, haven't tested that though, and you'd need some beefy cooling for those suckers. But unless you push really, really crazy voltages, these chips are quite hard to kill. 

Also noice on the RAM, I have a 24GB HyperX Red kit, stuff is gorgeous

[toasty99]

Anyone having luck pushing early 1660v3/5960x chips past 4.5ghz? 

 

I picked up a QS 1660v3 with a bad memory channel (so only a Max of 4 ram sticks but I won't use more anyways) and a Gigabyte X99 Phoenix SLI motherboard to replace my Ryzen 1600. 

 

I've got it running 4.52 GHz all core and 4.6 something up to quad core. However it's weird because I had to set the multiplier to 44 and baseclock overclock to 4.52. 45 multiplier with normal baseclock wasn't really stable. It's also taking 1.392 voltage which is quite a bit but my h100i can handle that just barely. Any ideas/suggestions to get a bit higher or run less voltage and remain stable? 

 

Also, anyone have any luck with ram like this? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newegg.com/amp/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232731

I've tried it with and without XMP and can't even get ddr4 2666 to boot. Best I've gotten is ddr4 2400.

[Zando_]

2 minutes ago, toasty99 said:

I've got it running 4.52 GHz all core and 4.6 something up to quad core. However it's weird because I had to set the multiplier to 44 and baseclock overclock to 4.52. 45 multiplier with normal baseclock wasn't really stable. It's also taking 1.392 voltage which is quite a bit but my h100i can handle that just barely. Any ideas/suggestions to get a bit higher or run less voltage and remain stable? 

Eeesh that's a high voltage for daily. What's the input voltage? Safe maxes for a 5960X according to a more experienced friend is 2.1v input voltage, 1.35v vCore. Lotta people forget about input voltage and up the vCore way too much. 

I run around 1.95v Input, 1.3v vCore, 1.1v Ring, for 4.7/3.7 core/ring clocks. That's a j-bin 5960X though (and it hits a hard wall at anything above 4.8 all core, 4.9 with HT off, so among j-bins it's not amazing). 

[bomerr]

12 minutes ago, toasty99 said:

Anyone having luck pushing early 1660v3/5960x chips past 4.5ghz? 

 

I picked up a QS 1660v3 with a bad memory channel (so only a Max of 4 ram sticks but I won't use more anyways) and a Gigabyte X99 Phoenix SLI motherboard to replace my Ryzen 1600. 

 

I've got it running 4.52 GHz all core and 4.6 something up to quad core. However it's weird because I had to set the multiplier to 44 and baseclock overclock to 4.52. 45 multiplier with normal baseclock wasn't really stable. It's also taking 1.392 voltage which is quite a bit but my h100i can handle that just barely. Any ideas/suggestions to get a bit higher or run less voltage and remain stable? 

 

Also, anyone have any luck with ram like this? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newegg.com/amp/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232731

I've tried it with and without XMP and can't even get ddr4 2666 to boot. Best I've gotten is ddr4 2400.

4.4ghz is kinda the sweatspot for these chips in terms of both ability to OC and powerusage

 

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/10249139/spy/10248844#

 

this is my results 4.4 vs 4.7. 6% increase in performance but I have to raise voltage from 1.28 to 1.35.

 

https://siliconlottery.com/pages/statistics

 

here are the stats. only top 10% will be able to hit 4.7 at 1.35v.