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Hello guys, i have an issue.

I've connected a new x5650 cpu on the 1366 socket motherboard EX58-UD3R mobo by gigabyte.

And the pc doesn't turn on, ive tried CMOS battery reset by powering off + cable out, battery out for 20 mins, battery back, power cable back, pc power back, still doesn't work, upper red+yellow+green leds are on.

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what motherboard are you using?

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1 minute ago, mok said:

what motherboard are you using?

Like mentioned above:

Gigabyte EX58-UD3R.

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Just now, ProRules said:

Like mentioned above:

Gigabyte EX58-UD3R.

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1 minute ago, ProRules said:

And theres a guy who said it works perfectly with the same mobo.

you will have to contact that guy specifically and ask him which BIOS hes using etc. 
consider making an account on whatever forum hes on to try and get a hold of him

 

Meanwhile you should update the bios of your mobo if you havent already and try again with only one stick of ram (start with the least amount of components until you can get into a bios)

 

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What BIOS version are you using? F12Q is the latest for that MOBO and it is from 2011 and it is a beta.

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18 minutes ago, ProRules said:

Hello guys, i have an issue.

I've connected a new x5650 cpu on the 1366 socket motherboard EX58-UD3R mobo by gigabyte.

And the pc doesn't turn on, ive tried CMOS battery reset by powering off + cable out, battery out for 20 mins, battery back, power cable back, pc power back, still doesn't work, upper red+yellow+green leds are on.

hmm, I would either say the CPU is dead or the motherboard doesn't support it with that BIOS, although as mentioned it doesn't officially support it, often these boards do run fine with Xeons. 

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When you killed the power did you short the cmos jumpers.  The proper way to clear it is to short the jumpers for a few seconds.  Also that board doesnt officially support xeons but it should work.  I would say try a proper cmos clear and if that doesnt work maybe pull the cpu and reseat it.  Its possible you got a dead cpu but I wouldnt give up on it yet. 

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And also make sure your on the latest bios as stated previously. 

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I have a X5675 running on the alphabet soup X58 UD3R motherboard. Mine is the Rev 2.0, not sure which yours is (or if it matters).

 

First, check for dumb mistakes: make sure you didn't forget to plug a cable in!

 

I updated my Bios from version FB to FH with my i7-950 still installed (using Gigabyte's utility through windows), and then restarted to enter the Bios to set 'fail-safe defaults', saved, and exited. After successful boot I turned the computer off, let it cool off, and then swapped the Xeon in and the system booted up without issues, at stock settings for the Xeon. I never did messed with the CMOS or battery or anything--just updated bios, set bios voltages and frequencies to Gigabyte's safe defaults, and installed CPU.

 

so...try that then report back. If you still have the 920, reinstall that and make sure something else isn't the problem.

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Check if the CPU fan header has a fan in it. I own a Asus p6x58de and x5670 and that's a Issue I had 

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23 hours ago, bimmerman said:

I have a X5675 running on the alphabet soup X58 UD3R motherboard. Mine is the Rev 2.0, not sure which yours is (or if it matters).

 

First, check for dumb mistakes: make sure you didn't forget to plug a cable in!

 

I updated my Bios from version FB to FH with my i7-950 still installed (using Gigabyte's utility through windows), and then restarted to enter the Bios to set 'fail-safe defaults', saved, and exited. After successful boot I turned the computer off, let it cool off, and then swapped the Xeon in and the system booted up without issues, at stock settings for the Xeon. I never did messed with the CMOS or battery or anything--just updated bios, set bios voltages and frequencies to Gigabyte's safe defaults, and installed CPU.

 

so...try that then report back. If you still have the 920, reinstall that and make sure something else isn't the problem.

Hey thanks all for your replies!

Pc did turn on with old ram..

But now as it does work with xeon CPU, my newer ram which works with i7 920 doesn't work with the Xeon installed?

Also Ive tried bios update, with a USB flash drive it errors out "file corrupted."

I've used guides step by step, and the USB drive is fat32 format.

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55 minutes ago, ProRules said:

Hey thanks all for your replies!

Pc did turn on with old ram..

But now as it does work with xeon CPU, my newer ram which works with i7 920 doesn't work with the Xeon installed?

Also Ive tried bios update, with a USB flash drive it errors out "file corrupted."

I've used guides step by step, and the USB drive is fat32 format.

Ok, here's my suggestion. You never mentioned RAM issues.

 

Return 100% back to the last known working configuration. Old RAM, old I7, old settings. Make sure this works! I'm not sure what Old vs New RAM you're talking about, but change all variables back to last-known-good condition. I should mention I never had RAM issues with mine, and definitely didn't remove sticks when I changed CPUs. The below should help identify the issue, whatever it is.

 

Then, download and use Gigabyte's utility (in windows, not via USB drive) to update your bios. Go to their page for your motherboard and download the tools; they should be right there.

 

Once your Bios is successfully updated, boot into windows and verify everything works.

 

Next, turn off the computer and try changing ONLY the RAM to whatever it is you'd like to be using. Make sure if you're not populating every RAM slot that you follow Gigabyte's manual for which slots to fill.

 

Then, once it boots into windows just fine with the new RAM, reboot and tinker in the Bios to use the new RAM's recommended settings (this step is optional, as this may happen automatically). If you can't get it to work with just the RAM changed, do a memtest and troubleshoot that component.

 

Assuming the RAM step was successful, and your bios is updated to the most recent version, set the default frequencies and voltages (in Bios) to the Fail-Safe Defaults and reboot into windows.

 

Once that succeeds, only then turn the computer off and replace the i7 with the Xeon, and attempt to boot into windows.

 

The theory here is make one single change, then test and troubleshoot before changing another thing. Be methodical and patient.

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On 5/25/2017 at 11:42 PM, bimmerman said:

Ok, here's my suggestion. You never mentioned RAM issues.

 

Return 100% back to the last known working configuration. Old RAM, old I7, old settings. Make sure this works! I'm not sure what Old vs New RAM you're talking about, but change all variables back to last-known-good condition. I should mention I never had RAM issues with mine, and definitely didn't remove sticks when I changed CPUs. The below should help identify the issue, whatever it is.

 

Then, download and use Gigabyte's utility (in windows, not via USB drive) to update your bios. Go to their page for your motherboard and download the tools; they should be right there.

 

Once your Bios is successfully updated, boot into windows and verify everything works.

 

Next, turn off the computer and try changing ONLY the RAM to whatever it is you'd like to be using. Make sure if you're not populating every RAM slot that you follow Gigabyte's manual for which slots to fill.

 

Then, once it boots into windows just fine with the new RAM, reboot and tinker in the Bios to use the new RAM's recommended settings (this step is optional, as this may happen automatically). If you can't get it to work with just the RAM changed, do a memtest and troubleshoot that component.

 

Assuming the RAM step was successful, and your bios is updated to the most recent version, set the default frequencies and voltages (in Bios) to the Fail-Safe Defaults and reboot into windows.

 

Once that succeeds, only then turn the computer off and replace the i7 with the Xeon, and attempt to boot into windows.

 

The theory here is make one single change, then test and troubleshoot before changing another thing. Be methodical and patient.

Wow thanks for that amazing reply!

got the stuff working now, seems like file size of the bios qflash update was too big (2mb instead of 1mb) and had to use @BIOS thingy in order to flash it.

Anyways, It all works perfect now!

Cheers all for the help you amazing people much respect!

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1 hour ago, bimmerman said:

Glad it worked, happy to help! Enjoy!

Thanks man such an amazing community!

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On 5/24/2017 at 2:42 PM, bimmerman said:

Ok, here's my suggestion. You never mentioned RAM issues.

 

Return 100% back to the last known working configuration. Old RAM, old I7, old settings. Make sure this works! I'm not sure what Old vs New RAM you're talking about, but change all variables back to last-known-good condition. I should mention I never had RAM issues with mine, and definitely didn't remove sticks when I changed CPUs. The below should help identify the issue, whatever it is.

 

Then, download and use Gigabyte's utility (in windows, not via USB drive) to update your bios. Go to their page for your motherboard and download the tools; they should be right there.

 

Once your Bios is successfully updated, boot into windows and verify everything works.

 

Next, turn off the computer and try changing ONLY the RAM to whatever it is you'd like to be using. Make sure if you're not populating every RAM slot that you follow Gigabyte's manual for which slots to fill.

 

Then, once it boots into windows just fine with the new RAM, reboot and tinker in the Bios to use the new RAM's recommended settings (this step is optional, as this may happen automatically). If you can't get it to work with just the RAM changed, do a memtest and troubleshoot that component.

 

Assuming the RAM step was successful, and your bios is updated to the most recent version, set the default frequencies and voltages (in Bios) to the Fail-Safe Defaults and reboot into windows.

 

Once that succeeds, only then turn the computer off and replace the i7 with the Xeon, and attempt to boot into windows.

 

The theory here is make one single change, then test and troubleshoot before changing another thing. Be methodical and patient.

I'm having the same problem but I already have a xeon w5580 in my asus x58 rampage 2 extreme and when I put in the xeon x5660 it wont bot but all the fans turn on im only changing cpus. 

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4 hours ago, assblaster541 said:

I'm having the same problem but I already have a xeon w5580 in my asus x58 rampage 2 extreme and when I put in the xeon x5660 it wont bot but all the fans turn on im only changing cpus. 

I don't know, but someone in this thread might be able to help: 

 

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Hello, I saw a very cheap Intel x5650 cpu and considering buying it to replace my i7-920. Currently my i7-920 runs at 4GHz with HT is disabled to keep the temps low. Extra 2 cores would be significant upgrade, with overclocking the x5650 to at least 4Ghz.

 

My motherboard is EX58-UD3R rev1.0 and CPU support list does not include X5650:

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-EX58-UD3R-rev-10-11/support#support-cpu

 

Even though 1.7 revision of the same motherboard does not officially supports X5650, but it supports a lot more CPUs including X5570 and X5607:

https://www.gigabyte.com/de/Ajax/SupportFunction/GetCpuList?Value=3265&Type=Product

 

I wonder is there anyone with 1.0 rev of this motherboard runs intel X5650?

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9 hours ago, ThalesMML said:

Hello, I saw a very cheap Intel x5650 cpu and considering buying it to replace my i7-920. Currently my i7-920 runs at 4GHz with HT is disabled to keep the temps low. Extra 2 cores would be significant upgrade, with overclocking the x5650 to at least 4Ghz.

 

My motherboard is EX58-UD3R rev1.0 and CPU support list does not include X5650:

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-EX58-UD3R-rev-10-11/support#support-cpu

 

Even though 1.7 revision of the same motherboard does not officially supports X5650, but it supports a lot more CPUs including X5570 and X5607:

https://www.gigabyte.com/de/Ajax/SupportFunction/GetCpuList?Value=3265&Type=Product

 

I wonder is there anyone with 1.0 rev of this motherboard runs intel X5650?

It does list few 32nm CPUs like the i7-980X/990X and W3680/W3690. They have the same CPUID as the X5600 series CPUs and as far as I know use the same microcode. So technically the X5650 should work but I've heard some older X58 boards don't like 2 QPI line CPUs.

 

But I did find this comment in the 'General Intel HEDT Xeon/i7 Discussion thread'. They mention of using a X5670 on the GA-EX58-UD3R rev1.0 and everything runs fine

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The bios you would be looking for is a beta, might have the number 17 in it. I had a UD5 and 970, then switched to an X5690 E.S. when they released the beta bios.

 

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