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Iphone 6 Plus Recall soon? (Rumour, Might/Might not)

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EDIT: THIS THREAD IS NOT EVEN A PAGE LONG AND I'M ALREADY ANNOYED. WHAT ABOUT THIS TOPIC MAKES IT AN ANDROID VS iOS/APPLE DEBATE? NOTHING. SO KEEP IT OUT OF THE COMMENTS. THIS IS ABOUT THE HARDWARE, NOT THE SOFTWARE. (17:30PM GMT)

 

UPDATE: A link to a 9to5mac.com article about was provided to me by @NickTheNajin that Debunks this Rumour that is gong around. You can visit that article by clicking HERE

 

 

This article was just published on Technobuffalo, you can find it HERE

Here is another article published by BGR - HERE

 

It's no secret that #Bendgate was a major hit for Apple. But they could soon be facing a much bigger problem. 

 

Owners of iPhone 6 Plus's, notably the 128GB variant have reported their phone crashing and rebooting occasionally. According the Business Korea, Apple decided to cut costs and decided to use TLC (Triple-Level-Cell) flash rather than traditional MLC (Multi-Level Cell) that they have used in previous versions of their flagship device. This site also mentions that there are known problems with the controller that Apple is using, The same problems have been noted to occur in Samsung SSD's.

 

Direct Quote from Technobuffalo's article:

 The problem, Business Korea explained, is that while TLC can store more data, it’s also slower and less stable than the other options available, which may be one reason why the iPhone 6 Plus with 128GB of storage crashes. The site also points to known problems with the controller IC, or integrated circuit, that has also been recognized in Samsung SSD products that use the same NAND flash.

 

According the Business Korea, Apple may be able to fix this issue with a software update.

 
EDIT: My Question - would this be a firmware update to the controller as I don't think that would be possible through an iOS/iTunes update would it?

 

New Source Info: According to BGR, the SSD's affected are the 840 and 840 EVO drives, NOT the Pro versions.

 

Direct Quote from BGR's article:

The publication also notes that a similar TLC NAND memory issue might be affecting certain Samsung SSD drives, including SSD 840 and 840 EVO, with Samsung having tried to fix them with firmware updates.

 

 

My Opinion? 

 

If this is true, this could cause a whole shit storm for Apple with the amount of devices they shipped. I hope if this is an issue, they can solve it sharp-ish or they will have a huge problem on their hands, not just the phones, but people questioning their reliability in other products.

 

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UPDATE: A link to a 9to5mac.com article about was provided to me by @NickTheNajin that Debunks this Rumour that is gong around. You can visit that article by clicking HERE

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Feel bad for people who went for the iPhone 6.... Android has always been top notch


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I hardly think TLC would be the root of the problem, unless the actual flash was improperly installed or used. I have a TLC SSD with 2 years of warranty left and that's running just fine :P

 

Might be a general QC problem though.


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Didn't apple want to stop using samsung parts in their products a while ago?


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Are these only effecting the 128GB phones? I'm looking towards the 64GB 6+


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Feel bad for people who went for the iPhone 6.... Android has always been top notch

I'd really suggest you look back at Android's past if you genuinely believe that. 


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Not too surprising from a company that won't put 2GB of RAM in a phone. :/ Jobs is rolling in his grave, wishing he could slap whoever thought this was a good idea.

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Didn't apple want to stop using samsung parts in their products a while ago?

 

So long as they keep using Foxconn pcb's they wont ever get away from Samsung.


 

 

 
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Feel bad for people who went for the iPhone 6.... Android has always been top notch

Android ain't a phone. You comparing a phone to an OS... Anyway, we're talking flash memory. Any phone could have used this. I mean even Samsung used it in their SSD.

 

But does it suck ? Yeah. If it's a real problem, I hope they fix it. If not, I guess if you have problems you can just take it to a genuis bar to have it swap or something...

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My 128GB phone is supposed to be rebooting, crashing and being weird? Damn, I guess it missed that message at the morning meeting. 

 

And lets assume there is a recall. Guess how easy Apple recalls are? Go to Apple Store, swap device out, go home. Do I even need to mention how big a clusterfuck it is for Android devices to handle a recall? Not that this excuses the issue at hand, but for fucks sake you people act like either side is infallible and can't mess up, and then start going "HAHAHAHAHAHA" when the other side does mess up. 

 

I don't get it. The articles in question raise valid concerns but also went to the Fox News School of Sensationalism. Could be a problem. Could not be a problem. Data size is everything. Are these reboots/crashes the expected norm with any device? The norm for iOS devices in general? Or are they exceedingly high in a specific set of iOS devices (aka the 128GB models and lower in everything else?)

Just like #Bendghazi, the lack of verifiable data means any conclusion is useless and more based in speculation than fact. But don't let me interrupt the proceedings...

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i dont think its gonna be that big of a deal, there likely wont be a recall. and lets be honest, bendgate was blown way out of preportion. sure there was more than 9 actually reported, but nowhere as bad as people want to think it was. 95% of the pictures of bent phones are from people who bent their own phone on purpose to rake in on the internet points.  


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How many people bought a 128GB iPhone 6+ anyway? Doesn't that cost like 10000 dollars or something.


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if this is the same firmware issue that the 840 EVO had, the fix isn't that big of deal. I had to update a couple drives when Samsung issued the fix. the issue was purely firmware based.

 

also, because Android.


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And it will beat the shit out of iOS with the 5.0 update :P

Can't wait for it! A Nexus 5 is a better buy than an iPhone 6 and costs less than half...

None of that matters if you are bored with android :P

All about preference :) 


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"The publication also notes that a similar TLC NAND memory issue might be affecting certain Samsung SSD drives, including SSD 840 and 840 EVO, with Samsung having tried to fix them with firmware updates."

Wait tried to fix? That tool they released didn't change the firmware version according to "Samsung Magician" but I can't say I've noticed any issues with my evo before or after the fix (drive had only been installed about 10 days before they released the fix)
So assuming Samsung fixed it and my drives not still just too new to notice and it's the same issue I don't see why apple can't fix it with software.

C'mon guys I like Android as much as the next guy but can we please have one apple related thread without it turning into Android vs Apple


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Feel bad for people who went for the iPhone 6.... Android has always been top notch

 

hahahahaha yeah never suffers from bad battery life, force closes, crashing, updates that take months to roll out and leave users in a maker lottery for when they will get theres, security issuses..........

 

 

My 128GB phone is supposed to be rebooting, crashing and being weird? Damn, I guess it missed that message at the morning meeting. 

 

And lets assume there is a recall. Guess how easy Apple recalls are? Go to Apple Store, swap device out, go home. Do I even need to mention how big a clusterfuck it is for Android devices to handle a recall? Not that this excuses the issue at hand, but for fucks sake you people act like either side is infallible and can't mess up, and then start going "HAHAHAHAHAHA" when the other side does mess up. 

 

I don't get it. The articles in question raise valid concerns but also went to the Fox News School of Sensationalism. Could be a problem. Could not be a problem. Data size is everything. Are these reboots/crashes the expected norm with any device? The norm for iOS devices in general? Or are they exceedingly high in a specific set of iOS devices (aka the 128GB models and lower in everything else?)

Just like #Bendghazi, the lack of verifiable data means any conclusion is useless and more based in speculation than fact. But don't let me interrupt the proceedings...

 

nice to to see the new builder has arrived banging the apple drum. so let me get this straight because your phone is ok there is no issue? right

apple recalls are easy if you live by a store. I dont. i live 40 min away from a store...thats in a major city so is a bithsc to get to. or i can send it in and wait a week+ joy and all this from a device that costs nearly  £800 off contract and £200 more than most if its rivals.  i expect more from apple than what seams to have been them cutting corners left and right

 

as for bendgate....i dont think its over. jay from jayztwocents has commented on his 6 stating that he has bent it already from normal day to day use....

 

 

as for this issue if its just a update fix then who cares really if not.....yet more woes for apple


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"The publication also notes that a similar TLC NAND memory issue might be affecting certain Samsung SSD drives, including SSD 840 and 840 EVO, with Samsung having tried to fix them with firmware updates."

Wait tried to fix? That tool they released didn't change the firmware version according to "Samsung Magician" but I can't say I've noticed any issues with my evo before or after the fix (drive had been had only been installed about 10 days before they released the fix)

So assuming Samsung fixed it and my drives not still just too new to notice and it's the same issue I don't see why apple can't fix it with software.

That quote came directly from BGR, I'm not sure if its true/false as I don't own a Samsung SSD.


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i dont think its gonna be that big of a deal, there likely wont be a recall. and lets be honest, bendgate was blown way out of preportion. sure there was more than 9 actually reported, but nowhere as bad as people want to think it was. 95% of the pictures of bent phones are from people who bent their own phone on purpose to rake in on the internet points.  

I agree it was blown way out of proportions, but it was still very interesting when JayZTwoCents noted that he had bent his 6 (not 6+) just through daily use (not trying to bend it); and he made careful note to say that he doesn't really keep it in his pocket -- i.e. its bends easily, albeit it was a very negligible bend, but apparently still enough to pop the screen out a bit. 

 

/Not saying this wouldn't happen with other phones / #bendgate is a serious issue; just that its interesting to see that it is possible for it to bend during light use. 


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That quote came directly from BGR, I'm not sure if its true/false as I don't own a Samsung SSD.

Well I guess until I notice a problem there is no problem lol just had me worried there for a second.


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They cheap out on hardware on the most expensive phone ????????? They just keep on digging ! :D


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Bored with android? Are you serious? You obviously haven't played around with it enough, you can even make Android look like iOS if you wanted to...

I have had my note 2 for about 2 years and I still love it, I just wanted a change. I like android and I like iOS, whatcha gonna do


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