Artic P12 vs F12 for case fan?

[e22big]

I was just buying a new case for my PC (Cooler Master NR600) and is now looking for a new case fan. I heard a lot of good things about Artic P12 and they are actually cheaper than the F12 that I can find aroud my area. However, my motherboard doesn't have any slot left for the front case fans and so they are all connected directly to my PSU, from my understanding, this should make the fan run at full speed all the time and P12 full speed is almost 2000 RPM. I am concern that at that level of RPM, the noise performance would be even worse than the fan I currently use (the cheap ass Deepcool 120cm, probably RF120.) 

 

Accoustic performance is the primary reason for my upgrade, do you think P12 is still a good idea for my condition? F12 which has lower RPM is almost twice as expensive and at their selling price I could also get something like Be Quiet Silent Wing 120cm. I am also open to other suggestions if you have any. 

[Chris Pratt]

The chief difference is that the P12 is a high static pressure fan, while the F12 is optimized for air flow. The P fans are better when you've got an obstruction you're trying to push/pull air through, whereas the F fans are better for moving air, when not unobstructed.

[narrdarr]

Grab the p12s and a fun hub or fan splitter. So you can control your fan.

[Tristerin]

I have 14 P12s running at full tilt next to me.  10 in one case, 4 in the other (folding atm).  I do not describe these fans as loud at all.  

 

You could also opt to spend a couple bucks on a fan controller and control it via motherboard like all the other fans.  A 10 fan powered hub is less than $10 all day long

[e22big]

1 minute ago, Chris Pratt said:

The chief difference is that the P12 is a high static pressure fan, while the F12 is optimized for air flow. The P fans are better when you've got an obstruction you're trying to push/pull air through, whereas the F fans are better for moving air, when not unobstructed.

yeah but they also run at 1350 RPM max, and as I told you, I can't control case fan speed (or at least I have no idea how to control it without the motherboard) so it will run at max at that is a lot lower RPM that what P12 would do

[e22big]

2 minutes ago, narrdarr said:

Grab the p12s and a fun hub or fan splitter. So you can control your fan.

what is that?

[e22big]

2 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

I have 14 P12s running at full tilt next to me.  10 in one case, 4 in the other (folding atm).  I do not describe these fans as loud at all.  

 

You could also opt to spend a couple bucks on a fan controller and control it via motherboard like all the other fans.  A 10 fan powered hub is less than $10 all day long

I am defintiely open to that idea, any thing you can recommend? 

[Tristerin]

1 minute ago, e22big said:

I am defintiely open to that idea, any thing you can recommend? 

Yup, can check ebay, and other listings (amazon, newegg) for something not shipping from China for faster shipping.  

 

https://www.newegg.com/p/36M-01AF-00DW8?Item=9SIAM5VBX14788&Description=fan hub&cm_re=fan_hub-_-9SIAM5VBX14788-_-Product

 

If you search around, you can find these stateside for under $10 shipped, I have quite a few of them over the years of buying them

[VeganJoy]

15 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Yup, can check ebay, and other listings (amazon, newegg) for something not shipping from China for faster shipping.  

 

https://www.newegg.com/p/36M-01AF-00DW8?Item=9SIAM5VBX14788&Description=fan hub&cm_re=fan_hub-_-9SIAM5VBX14788-_-Product

 

If you search around, you can find these stateside for under $10 shipped, I have quite a few of them over the years of buying them

that wouldnt allow for individual control of each fan, right?

[Tristerin]

1 minute ago, VeganJoy said:

that wouldnt allow for individual control of each fan, right?

Im unaware of a HUB off hand that allows individual control.

 

This takes 1x 4pin cable to 4pin HUB (orange slot) and then draws additional power from Molex.  The PWM signal or DC signal is then sent to the other fans on the hub (to run the same speed)

 

I have no experience with the Corsair Commander Pro maybe it allows individual addresses on the fan headers (not sure though)

[narrdarr]

10 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Im unaware of a HUB off hand that allows individual control.

 

This takes 1x 4pin cable to 4pin HUB (orange slot) and then draws additional power from Molex.  The PWM signal or DC signal is then sent to the other fans on the hub (to run the same speed)

 

I have no experience with the Corsair Commander Pro maybe it allows individual addresses on the fan headers (not sure though)

This is correct. Usually any hub that has a usb connector offer a software that can control fans individually. They can  be pricy tho. The commander pro is one of them. If your lucky you can fine it on eBay for like 40$ and will allow also temp probing and lighting control via the same software(icue)(corsair lighting products only). I think nzxt might have one too(using cam software) not sure. IMHO I just get a splitter or hub for each group of fans that you want to run at the same speed. Provided you have a header for each group(hub).

[narrdarr]

Almost forgot there are manual controller with dials that can be used as well.

[Jeppes]

P12 silent is an option too. Max 1050rpm.

 

[e22big]

6 hours ago, Jeppes said:

P12 silent is an option too. Max 1050rpm.

 

can't find it here unfortunately, and I might just get Noctua or Be Quiet if I have to ship them from the US

[e22big]

12 hours ago, Tristerin said:

Yup, can check ebay, and other listings (amazon, newegg) for something not shipping from China for faster shipping.  

 

https://www.newegg.com/p/36M-01AF-00DW8?Item=9SIAM5VBX14788&Description=fan hub&cm_re=fan_hub-_-9SIAM5VBX14788-_-Product

 

If you search around, you can find these stateside for under $10 shipped, I have quite a few of them over the years of buying them

it's probably cheaper for me to just ship it from China (I am in Asia) but thanks for the head up, will look that up

[DoctorNick]

You can get the P12 PST CO, with PWM splitter. Also better bearing. This is the one to get and the one hyped. https://www.arctic.ac/en/P12-PWM-PST-CO/ACFAN00121A

[71941]

On 9/29/2020 at 4:48 AM, Chris Pratt said:

The chief difference is that the P12 is a high static pressure fan, while the F12 is optimized for air flow. The P fans are better when you've got an obstruction you're trying to push/pull air through, whereas the F fans are better for moving air, when not unobstructed.

bit of an old thread but, the listed cfm of the p12 is higher than the f12 wouldn't that mean it would be better as a case fan? 

[RevGAM]

On 9/28/2020 at 3:17 PM, Tristerin said:

Im unaware of a HUB off hand that allows individual control.

I'm not sure if this fits the need, but it allows individual speed control of 6 fans and uses SATA for power. EnLabs TX3CO6S

 

Oh, necro'd thread.

Edited June 12, 2023 by RevGAM
Necro

[Rysters Tech]

In my experience the p12 co's suck. of the 3 i bought, one knocks when in operation and the replacement sounds like a whistle when it operates at any speed. Next time around, i will pay the extra for the noctua redux fans, arctic really disappointed me here.

[e22big]

12 minutes ago, Rysters Tech said:

In my experience the p12 co's suck. of the 3 i bought, one knocks when in operation and the replacement sounds like a whistle when it operates at any speed. Next time around, i will pay the extra for the noctua redux fans, arctic really disappointed me here.

I ended up getting 4 of them for my case fans. No problem so far, they were pretty quiet (except in a completely quiet room, you can hear coil whine a little)

[RevGAM]

9 hours ago, Rysters Tech said:

In my experience the p12 co's suck. of the 3 i bought, one knocks when in operation and the replacement sounds like a whistle when it operates at any speed. Next time around, i will pay the extra for the noctua redux fans, arctic really disappointed me here.

So 2 are fine? RMA the whistler...