Bought a used 1070 on ebay

[Omairn]

As the title suggests I bought a used 1070 on ebay for $270 CAD, the description of the card said that "Used approx. 2 years. Pulled from working system. Includes original box as photographed" I contacted the seller about warranty and stuff and since the seller had done a bunch of selling and good reviews I figured it was a good deal.

 

After I bought the card the seller would not reply to my messages and I had to make an inquiry on another card he had with a different account. This is where I learned that these cards were mining cards and the whole "pulled from a working system" was just him testing the card on a working system and not actually being used in that system. I know this is my fault for not doing more research and stuff but how worried should I be about this card? he states that undervolts the cards and didnt use a special bios for the cards. Also, does this give me justification to ask for a return? or am I stuck with the card? Thanks!

[Crunchy Dragon]

I wouldn't worry about it; mining cards, if properly cared for, make fantastic gaming cards.

 

There's a very strong possibility that my 1070 was mined on, but I've had no problems with it at all.

[Omairn]

19 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

I wouldn't worry about it; mining cards, if properly cared for, make fantastic gaming cards.

 

There's a very strong possibility that my 1070 was mined on, but I've had no problems with it at all.

okay, is there anything I should look for on the card like physically to see for damages?

[non-Zero]

theres nothing that can physically damage a card from software uses (aka mining) so honestly if you plug it in and it displays and the fans are running you more then likely are golden unless theres some weird unforseen issue

[dizmo]

That....is an awful lot for a GTX 1070. You definitely overpaid.

That said it's a decent card, so if it's a good upgrade from what you had just enjoy it and move forward.

Depends what the sellers auction stated. Returns are only allowed, generally, if the item is defective. So. If it works fine, you don't really have a reason to return it.

39 minutes ago, Omairn said:

okay, is there anything I should look for on the card like physically to see for damages?

Check if the fans have died. That's about all you'll be able to see. I really wouldn't worry about it though.

33 minutes ago, non-Zero said:

theres nothing that can physically damage a card from software uses (aka mining) so honestly if you plug it in and it displays and the fans are running you more then likely are golden unless theres some weird unforseen issue

The fans can die, and often do on lower tier cards.

[xg32]

a 1070 is basically a 1660 super~, and since that's 300cad new, you definitely overpaid, but if it works...nbd.

[Mick Naughty]

Don't see what buying a used card has to do with it being used. You knew it was used and the seller stated it was used right? How it was used doesn't matter or warrant a return. Im sure ebay would side with them as would I.

[Omairn]

33 minutes ago, xg32 said:

a 1070 is basically a 1660 super~, and since that's 300cad new, you definitely overpaid, but if it works...nbd.

damn it, everyone on build a pc reddit told to get the 1070 for that price, that is why i picked it  i was going to get the 1660 super before that

[Haro]

2 hours ago, Omairn said:

As the title suggests I bought a used 1070 on ebay for $270 CAD, the description of the card said that "Used approx. 2 years. Pulled from working system. Includes original box as photographed" I contacted the seller about warranty and stuff and since the seller had done a bunch of selling and good reviews I figured it was a good deal.

 

After I bought the card the seller would not reply to my messages and I had to make an inquiry on another card he had with a different account. This is where I learned that these cards were mining cards and the whole "pulled from a working system" was just him testing the card on a working system and not actually being used in that system. I know this is my fault for not doing more research and stuff but how worried should I be about this card? he states that undervolts the cards and didnt use a special bios for the cards. Also, does this give me justification to ask for a return? or am I stuck with the card? Thanks!

Mining cards can still work properly if was used in a good condition providing reliable power to it but you could have gotten a 1660 supper for 230 rivals the 1070 interms of gaming performance and has was higher vram bandwidth with it's gddr6 vram 

[Omairn]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

Mining cards can still work properly if was used in a good condition providing reliable power to it but you could have gotten a 1660 supper for 230 rivals the 1070 interms of gaming performance and has was higher vram bandwidth with it's gddr6 vram 

yeah I regret buying the card, initial plan was to get a 1660 super until I asked BuildaPC reddit and they told to get the 1070, im stuck with the card but i guess as long as it works im happy

[Haro]

1 minute ago, Omairn said:

yeah I regret buying the card, initial plan was to get a 1660 super until I asked BuildaPC reddit and they told to get the 1070, im stuck with the card but i guess as long as it works im happy

I'm not saying it's trash you'll still get alot out  Pascal even in 2020 I just recommend getting more than one opinion when doing a rather sizable investment

[xg32]

3 minutes ago, Omairn said:

yeah I regret buying the card, initial plan was to get a 1660 super until I asked BuildaPC reddit and they told to get the 1070, im stuck with the card but i guess as long as it works im happy

i think these forums tend to be more specific about 1 product over the other than reddit, and you see the upvoted message more often, doesn't mean it's the most optimal though.

 

That said i can recommend the 1070 for 225-250cad over a 1660super from a high feedback seller, i tend to value used cards lower than others but a 25-33% discount is nice.

 

The "mistake", if it even is one, from buying the 1070 is like 25cad...i've seen alot worse.

[Omairn]

1 minute ago, xg32 said:

i think these forums tend to be more specific about 1 product over the other than reddit, and you see the upvoted message more often, doesn't mean it's the most optimal though.

 

That said i can recommend the 1070 for 225-250cad over a 1660super from a high feedback seller, i tend to value used cards lower than others but a 25-33% discount is nice.

 

The "mistake", if it even is one, from buying the 1070 is like 25cad...i've seen alot worse.

I could not find any 1070 for under $270 so I thought it was a good deal and new 1660 super at the moment go for over $320 so I figured $50 saving after the fact was a good deal

[Crunchy Dragon]

45 minutes ago, Omairn said:

I could not find any 1070 for under $270 so I thought it was a good deal and new 1660 super at the moment go for over $320 so I figured $50 saving after the fact was a good deal

That's definitely not a bad deal.

[aisle9]

3 hours ago, Omairn said:

As the title suggests I bought a used 1070 on ebay for $270 CAD, the description of the card said that "Used approx. 2 years. Pulled from working system. Includes original box as photographed" I contacted the seller about warranty and stuff and since the seller had done a bunch of selling and good reviews I figured it was a good deal.

 

After I bought the card the seller would not reply to my messages and I had to make an inquiry on another card he had with a different account. This is where I learned that these cards were mining cards and the whole "pulled from a working system" was just him testing the card on a working system and not actually being used in that system. I know this is my fault for not doing more research and stuff but how worried should I be about this card? he states that undervolts the cards and didnt use a special bios for the cards. Also, does this give me justification to ask for a return? or am I stuck with the card? Thanks!

Nothing in there says that it wasn't a mining card. If something goes wrong with it, eBay gives you 30 days to return, no questions asked. Just pick that the item isn't as described in your return claim if you have to go that route.

 

In general, there's nothing wrong with buying a mining card from someone who's running a lot of them, especially if it's from a reputable source on a platform with buyer protection as bulletproof as eBay's. Most of them are actually better taken care of than typical gamer cards, imo, because a miner with a big setup probably has them undervolted and running in open air in a clean environment. A dead card mines no hash, so the less often that happens, the better. Use it for a couple of weeks, put it through its paces, overclock it, do whatever you want to do, and if it can't do it for any reason it's an item not as described. Realistically, though, your card is fine.

[Omairn]

13 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

Nothing in there says that it wasn't a mining card. If something goes wrong with it, eBay gives you 30 days to return, no questions asked. Just pick that the item isn't as described in your return claim if you have to go that route.

 

In general, there's nothing wrong with buying a mining card from someone who's running a lot of them, especially if it's from a reputable source on a platform with buyer protection as bulletproof as eBay's. Most of them are actually better taken care of than typical gamer cards, imo, because a miner with a big setup probably has them undervolted and running in open air in a clean environment. A dead card mines no hash, so the less often that happens, the better. Use it for a couple of weeks, put it through its paces, overclock it, do whatever you want to do, and if it can't do it for any reason it's an item not as described. Realistically, though, your card is fine.

question, he did state that it is undervolted and im just wondering do I leave it undervolted or do bring it back to original settings?

[Intrafinesse]

4 hours ago, Omairn said:

As the title suggests I bought a used 1070 on ebay for $270 CAD, the description of the card said that "Used approx. 2 years. Pulled from working system. Includes original box as photographed" I contacted the seller about warranty and stuff and since the seller had done a bunch of selling and good reviews I figured it was a good deal.

 

After I bought the card the seller would not reply to my messages and I had to make an inquiry on another card he had with a different account. This is where I learned that these cards were mining cards and the whole "pulled from a working system" was just him testing the card on a working system and not actually being used in that system. I know this is my fault for not doing more research and stuff but how worried should I be about this card? he states that undervolts the cards and didnt use a special bios for the cards. Also, does this give me justification to ask for a return? or am I stuck with the card? Thanks!

What hurts electronics is being heated, cooled, repeat.

Its better for something to be on unless it's excessively hot. 

A GPU thats over heated for years, and having the fan spin for years is not ideal.

 

[aisle9]

7 minutes ago, Omairn said:

question, he did state that it is undervolted and im just wondering do I leave it undervolted or do bring it back to original settings?

Just install MSI Afterburner once you have the card connected and drivers installed, then tell it to reset to defaults. It'll put everything back at stock. An undervolted card is a happy card.

[The Torrent]

4 hours ago, Omairn said:

As the title suggests I bought a used 1070 on ebay for $270 CAD, the description of the card said that "Used approx. 2 years. Pulled from working system. Includes original box as photographed" I contacted the seller about warranty and stuff and since the seller had done a bunch of selling and good reviews I figured it was a good deal.

 

After I bought the card the seller would not reply to my messages and I had to make an inquiry on another card he had with a different account. This is where I learned that these cards were mining cards and the whole "pulled from a working system" was just him testing the card on a working system and not actually being used in that system. I know this is my fault for not doing more research and stuff but how worried should I be about this card? he states that undervolts the cards and didnt use a special bios for the cards. Also, does this give me justification to ask for a return? or am I stuck with the card? Thanks!

i know people hate it but i think it works well for this sort of stuff

 

run https://www.userbenchmark.com/ and it will tell you how your card sits overall compared to others.

 

 

Also ebay has 30 day money back if u want to return it. Seller pays for return shipping if you just say in the case its a mining card and you have been lied to ebay always side with buyer.

[aisle9]

35 minutes ago, The Torrent said:

if you just say in the case its a mining card and you have been lied to ebay always side with buyer.

That would be an absolutely massive c**t move. The seller did not say anywhere whether or not it was a mining card, just that it was used for two years, pulled from a working system and included the box. If the card works, it is 100% as described and people like you are why I quit f*cking around with selling on eBay.

[Mick Naughty]

1 hour ago, Omairn said:

question, he did state that it is undervolted and im just wondering do I leave it undervolted or do bring it back to original settings?

I doubt he modded the bios. As you said they didn't. So it isn't undervolted. That's now how it works.

Run the card, its that simple.

 

[Omairn]

yeah Im not going return it unless I have valid reason, Im not gonna try and blame him for my lack of research done. If within the 30 days there is a problem I will go from there

[aisle9]

14 hours ago, Mick Naughty said:

I doubt he modded the bios. As you said they didn't. So it isn't undervolted. That's now how it works.

Run the card, its that simple.

 

Doesn't lowering the power limit in Afterburner (etc.) count as "undervolting" a card? If not, I've been using my terms incorrectly for a long time.

[Mick Naughty]

1 hour ago, aisle9 said:

Doesn't lowering the power limit in Afterburner (etc.) count as "undervolting" a card? If not, I've been using my terms incorrectly for a long time.

The settings aren’t stored on the card. It isn’t gonna stay undervolted moving it to another pc. If that was the case you would never lose an overclock and you’d be able to track all of the cards past by doing so.