GTX 1650 vs RX 570 for Adobe Premiere Pro

[Aman Sharma]

Hi guys, 

I am about to build an editing rig for myself but I'm on a budget. I heard that having some sort of a GPU makes a big difference in editing. 

This is not gaming focussed but I'll be playing Rocket league on 1080p 60fps.

I have the money for either a GTX 1650 or a RX 570.

Initially I wasn't including a GPU in my build and was going with a 2400g. But now I'm getting a R3 1200 as it makes up for the addition for the GPU. 

I would appreciate if you will help me with my build. 

[Fasauceome]

Premiere can leverage both OpenCL and Cuda acceleration, so I'd recommend the RX 570 8GB.

[Senior Gui]

it wont make much of a difference either way but the rx570 is more powerful all arround https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1650-vs-AMD-RX-570/4039vs3924

[steelo]

Which begs the question, WHY would anybody pay $50 more for a brand new mid grade graphics card that is pretty handily beat by a RX 570 that was middle of the pack 3 years ago? Friends don't let friends spend too much money on NVidia products.

[Princess Luna]

10 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Premiere can leverage both OpenCL and Cuda acceleration, so I'd recommend the RX 570 8GB.

Premiere Pro OpenCL support is atrocious, the GTX 1650 will outperform it easily.

 

If one wants to insist on OpenCL for Video Editing hardware acceleration they should use Vegas Pro which has a real support for it.

[Aman Sharma]

2 hours ago, Princess Luna said:

Premiere Pro OpenCL support is atrocious, the GTX 1650 will outperform it easily.

 

If one wants to insist on OpenCL for Video Editing hardware acceleration they should use Vegas Pro which has a real support for it.

I've heard that Adobe applications favour Nvidia graphics cards. But I've not seen some real world numbers to prove that. That is the cause of my dilemma. 

So, is cuda support overwieighs the 8 gigabytes of vram for editing?

That's the question bugging me.

Thanks btw

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, Aman Sharma said:

So, is cuda support overwieighs the 8 gigabytes of vram for editing?

Neither cards would ever get anywhere near 8GB of VRAM Usage in hardware acceleration here, you should be far more concerned with actual system RAM.

[IAmAndre]

I also wouldn't recommend downgrading the CPU because Premiere relies a lot on RAM and CPU power. I don't know what your budget is but would recommend at least an entry level R5. By any means, avoid the RX 570 if you're going to use Premiere.

[Princess Luna]

Just now, IAmAndre said:

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Yeah, since it's Premiere Pro ideally an i5 8400 or similar so you can use iGPU QuickSync acceleration and have higher overall performance thanks to Intel usual quirks. But if not possible, at very least a Ryzen 5 1400 or else the experience won't be enjoyable at all.

[Aman Sharma]

10 hours ago, Princess Luna said:

Yeah, since it's Premiere Pro ideally an i5 8400 or similar so you can use iGPU QuickSync acceleration and have higher overall performance thanks to Intel usual quirks. But if not possible, at very least a Ryzen 5 1400 or else the experience won't be enjoyable at all.

A gamers Nexus addressed the Intel quick sync thing and he said that GPU acceleration is still far superior than quick sync. It's nice to have quick sync on top of a GPU. 

I could potentially get r5 1600 and a gt 1030. But would the gt 1030 be comparable to GTX 1650 in editing

[Princess Luna]

2 minutes ago, Aman Sharma said:

he said that GPU acceleration is still far superior than quick sync

QuickSync works alongside CUDA Acceleration, it's not pick one, you use both and it's performance gains are very relevant:

QuickSync makes an i7 8700K reach a TR 1950X potential on Premiere, however obviously if you turn off CUDA Acceleration entirely that alone won't do any miracle, it's a side based acceleration hardware level wise:

 

7 minutes ago, Aman Sharma said:

But would the gt 1030 be comparable to GTX 1650 in editing

Can't you just find a second hand 1050?

[Aman Sharma]

12 hours ago, Princess Luna said:

QuickSync works alongside CUDA Acceleration, it's not pick one, you use both and it's performance gains are very relevant:

QuickSync makes an i7 8700K reach a TR 1950X potential on Premiere, however obviously if you turn off CUDA Acceleration entirely that alone won't do any miracle, it's a side based acceleration hardware level wise:

 

Can't you just find a second hand 1050?

Thanks for the help. I'm just avoiding Intel cpus just because I would be upgrading down the line. I can't blow all the money at once. If I get a old Intel platform, I would need a new Mobo to upgrade. Also, there are not many offline Intel products for sale and the online prices aren't great as well.