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LauriHimself

Hello everyone! 

 

I am going to build my first pc. Not for myself but my best friend. Thanks to this community, the ltt channel, gamers nexus and some others, I feel like I am ready for the task. 

 

I pickled the parts I felt were the best suited for his pricepoint and what he is going to do with it (up to 1000€, less is better, I aimed for 700 to 800; 1080p gaming only). 

 

Then I thought maybe I should check the forum, as I hear Linus mentioning it in every video for ages now, and I've never signed up. 

 

Turns out that my build is, more or less, what you guys say is a decent system for the price. 

 

Ryzen 5 2600, 16 gig 3200 ram, Asus ROG mobo (maybe will switch that for the asrok board from the recommendations) 1tb m.2 ssd... Usual suspects so far. 

 

My only problem is the gpu. 

 

One the one hand a rx 580 is plenty for 1080p gaming

On the other hand he has got the money for a gtx 1660ti, what would last him longer without an upgrade. 

 

So, my questions really are: will a 1660ti last him that much longer? Is it a segnificant improvement over a rx 580 given he only plays in 1080p? Is it worth the money? 

 

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The 1660ti is decently faster than the 580 so if you don't want to wait for AMD's new stuff later this year, it's a good pick.

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Thank you so much for the fast answer! 

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1 hour ago, LauriHimself said:

My only problem is the gpu. 

 

One the one hand a rx 580 is plenty for 1080p gaming

On the other hand he has got the money for a gtx 1660ti, what would last him longer without an upgrade. 

What about VEGA 56??

 

RX580 over here is around 150-200€

1660ti is almost double that.

 

Strange comparisation :|

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A RX 580 starts at about 180€, the GTX 1660ti at about 270€ where I live (Austria) 

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Just looked it up, Vega 56 starts at 300,so a 1660ti is cheaper where I live ?

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48 minutes ago, LauriHimself said:

Just looked it up, Vega 56 starts at 300,so a 1660ti is cheaper where I live ?

Which model though? If it a good model then +$30 is worth it. 

If it a crappy blower cooler type or Gigabyte, get that 1660 Ti. ?

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Why don't you go for the RX 590? It's slightly better then the 1660 and is much cheaper then it

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1660 is roughly at the same level as RX590, but CHEAPER. 1660Ti beats RX590, and their price is nearly identical.

 

RX590 is not a great buy IMHO. Hweege power hunger& heat without performing better than 1660 or 1660Ti, nor does it have better pricing.

 

Get the 1660Ti. Or even 1660 "without the Ti"

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2 hours ago, realpetertdm said:

Why don't you go for the RX 590? It's slightly better then the 1660 and is much cheaper then it

I don't know where you live but the GTX 1660 is cheaper than the RX 590 across the board and more often than not marginally faster, unless on Vulkan API games or heavily AMD optimized ones.

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Yeah, I would go with the 1660 or 1660ti if I were you, as it sounds like AMD's next gen of GPUs and CPUs will be much more powerful, thereby making you're friend's build obsolete much more quickly.

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Frankly right now id wait to build a system till you see what navi and ryzen 3k looks like... That's what I am doing right now.  I want a new box bad but im not going to buy anything till I see those 

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17 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

I don't know where you live but the GTX 1660 is cheaper than the RX 590 across the board and more often than not marginally faster, unless on Vulkan API games or heavily AMD optimized ones.

RX 590 8GB is 219 on Amazon.

GTX 1660 is also 219 but with less memory. It's either the same or better.

 

And gaming performance better on the 590 compared to the 1660. If we go up to 1660ti then we're losing a bit but1660? RX 590 is better here.

 

 

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RX 590 usually performs better then the 1660 on productivity, sometimes blowing the 1660 out of the water.

It also stands up similarly to 1660 in gaming.

Considering that the 1660 and the 590 are now similarly priced, RX 590 is better

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3 minutes ago, realpetertdm said:

 

RX 590 usually performs better then the 1660 on productivity, sometimes blowing the 1660 out of the water.

It also stands up similarly to 1660 in gaming.

Considering that the 1660 and the 590 are now similarly priced, RX 590 is better

1660 is marginally faster on gaming than RX 590, thanks to majority of games being better optimized for Nvidia cards:

 

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On 4/22/2019 at 5:16 AM, LauriHimself said:

 

I mean they're in different price brackets. If he's happy playing 1080p high settings for the next year then medium for a couple after that, then RX 580 should be fine. 1660ti however is a much faster card, more comparable to Vega 56 (a bit slower granted, around 10%) Now it'll do ultra settings today, high settings next year and maybe the year after that, then medium a year or 2 after that. So basically it'll last an extra year or two over RX 580. 

 

Personally, RX 580 is basically an overclocked RX 480, which is a 3 year old card at this point. Now it runs good still, but it's getting pretty long in the teeth and is what I'd call a budget card rather than a midrange card. I wouldn't buy a 3 year old card if I could afford a 3 month old card. 


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