Will RTX 2070 be fine with my setup

[Enndless]

Hello guys! I am planning to put some new life into my current PC and I was thinking about buying this graphics card:
https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B07JJ5LLQN/ref=psdc_430340031_t2_B07JJNYRGZ

to replace my GTX980.

 

The first question is: Will it work fine with my PSU: XFX P1-550S-XXB9 (550W,80 PLUS Bronze)

 

Also, here is the rest of my components:

CPU :Intel Core i7-4790

RAM:ADATA XPG V3 2x8GB 2133MHz DDR3 CL10 
MOBO:ASRock Z97 Pro4

 

 

The 2nd question:How hard would my CPU bottleneck that graphics card?

Should I wait and change all the parts at once?(I was thinking about getting either a Ryzen 7 2700 or i5 9600k,but it would at least double my expenses and I'd have to postpone the purchase)

Thanks.

 

[Turtle Rig]

5 minutes ago, Enndless said:

Hello guys! I am planning to put some new life into my current PC and I was thinking about buying this graphics card:
https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B07JJ5LLQN/ref=psdc_430340031_t2_B07JJNYRGZ

to replace my GTX980.

 

The first question is: Will it work fine with my PSU: XFX P1-550S-XXB9 (550W,80 PLUS Bronze)

 

Also, here is the rest of my components:

CPU :Intel Core i7-4790

RAM:ADATA XPG V3 2x8GB 2133MHz DDR3 CL10 
MOBO:ASRock Z97 Pro4

 

 

The 2nd question:How hard would my CPU bottleneck that graphics card?

Should I wait and change all the parts at once?(I was thinking about getting either a Ryzen 7 2700 or i5 9600k,but it would at least double my expenses and I'd have to postpone the purchase)

Thanks.

 

Your CPU is going to hold the RTX back some.  You will not be satisfied fully if you expect 1440p and 144fps.  At 1080p gaming there will be less of a bottleneck.  Im guessing the CPU isn't overclocked.  That doesn't help the cause.  Only get the RTX if you plan on keeping it for many many years.  That way someday you will upgrade and grab a 9900k and that RTX will finally shine and things will be so fast and smooth.

 

Also your PSU is just fine.  Your draw at peak will be 400 to 450 watts at most.

[GAMINGGUY]

4 minutes ago, Enndless said:

Hello guys! I am planning to put some new life into my current PC and I was thinking about buying this graphics card:
https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B07JJ5LLQN/ref=psdc_430340031_t2_B07JJNYRGZ

to replace my GTX980.

 

The first question is: Will it work fine with my PSU: XFX P1-550S-XXB9 (550W,80 PLUS Bronze)

 

Also, here is the rest of my components:

CPU :Intel Core i7-4790

RAM:ADATA XPG V3 2x8GB 2133MHz DDR3 CL10 
MOBO:ASRock Z97 Pro4

 

 

The 2nd question:How hard would my CPU bottleneck that graphics card?

Should I wait and change all the parts at once?(I was thinking about getting either a Ryzen 7 2700 or i5 9600k,but it would at least double my expenses and I'd have to postpone the purchase)

Thanks.

 

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The bottleneck will be awful. I would def wait and get a new cpu, I personally don't like AMD, the i5 is good though. 

[Majestic]

2 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

Your CPU is going to hold the RTX back some.  You will not be satisfied fully if you expect 1440p and 144fps.  At 1080p gaming there will be less of a bottleneck. 

Mate, even the least informed on this website know that increasing resolution lessens the strain on the CPU because you generally get lower framerates due to GPU constraints. 

How can you have 3.3k posts and not know this.

[Slottr]

1 minute ago, GAMINGGUY said:

The bottleneck will be awful. I would def wait and get a new cpu, I personally don't like AMD, the i5 is good though. 

Your prejudice against AMD isn't valid anymore

And no the bottleneck won't be awful, it'll be okay.

[Turtle Rig]

2 minutes ago, GAMINGGUY said:

The bottleneck will be awful. I would def wait and get a new cpu, I personally don't like AMD, the i5 is good though. 

He would have to get new RAM , MOBO and CPU + a graphics card.  I don't know if he wants to do this.  Hes trying to resurrect his old system.

 

A 8700k 320 dollars and that wont cause a bottleneck!

[Turtle Rig]

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2 minutes ago, Majestic said:

Mate, even the least informed on this website know that increasing resolution lessens the strain on the CPU because you generally get lower framerates due to GPU constraints. 

How can you have 3.3k posts and not know this.

The CPU will hold him back.  Yes I do know that the higher the resolution the more GPU will handle it.  I mixed up what I was saying.  I apologize.  Sorry!

[Enndless]

5 minutes ago, GAMINGGUY said:

 

6 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

Your CPU is going to hold the RTX back some.  You will not be satisfied fully if you expect 1440p and 144fps.  At 1080p gaming there will be less of a bottleneck.  Im guessing the CPU isn't overclocked.  That doesn't help the cause.  Only get the RTX if you plan on keeping it for many many years.  That way someday you will upgrade and grab a 9900k and that RTX will finally shine and things will be so fast and smooth.

 

Also your PSU is just fine.  Your draw at peak will be 400 to 450 watts at most.

Nope.the CPU's not overclocked,it's not the K version.I got it pretty cheap almost 5 years ago and never changed.

2 minutes ago, Slottr said:

Your prejudice against AMD isn't valid anymore

And no the bottleneck won't be awful, it'll be okay.

I don't know how accurate are the gaming benchmarks on YouTube,but in some games Ryzen 7 gets crushed by i5 9600k

1 minute ago, Turtle Rig said:

He would have to get new RAM , MOBO and CPU + a graphics card.  I don't know if he wants to do this.  Hes trying to resurrect his old system.

 

A 8700k 320 dollars and that wont cause a bottleneck!

Yeah, I would have to change everything except for the case and SSD and I wanted to avoid that, especially that the prices in Europe are still pretty high, even a few generations back.

[suchamoneypit]

a 4690k would severely bottleneck because of its 4 threads. a 4790 with its extra threads will make a big difference, but you'll probably still have very high CPU utilization when gaming. I think it might would without negative side effects for now but you would want a new CPU ASAP.

[SpookyCitrus]

I don't know anything about the used market in your country but I know here I can find 1070s, 1070tis, and 1080s for under or just over $300 USD. Found a 1080 for $325 and a 1070ti for $250 just yesterday in my local classifieds. They would be much less of a bottleneck on that 4790 maybe check Ebay or your local classifieds for any sort of deal on a decent 10 series card.

[Enndless]

Just now, SpookyCitrus said:

I don't know anything about the used market in your country but I know here I can find 1070s, 1070tis, and 1080s for under or just over $300 USD. Found a 1080 for $325 and a 1070ti for $250 just yesterday in my local classifieds. They would be much less of a bottleneck on that 4790 maybe check Ebay or your local classifieds for any sort of deal on a decent 10 series card.

Sure thing,but not every country is the US,where you can get the 2nd hand components that cheaply.Unfortunately there's no chance that I could get any of those, for a difference meaningful enough to consider not going for the RTX.

[Slottr]

36 minutes ago, Enndless said:

I don't know how accurate are the gaming benchmarks on YouTube,but in some games Ryzen 7 gets crushed by i5 9600k

That's because of its better single core performance, on a budgeted gaming system, or looking for a good multitasking processor: AMD rocks- they just don't like AMD for some unwarranted reason.

 

Though to answer your question, yes there will be a bottleneck here and there but for the most part you would be okay.

[MeatFeastMan]

Best chances here are to wait for zen2. That should push down prices even further. A 4790 still does just fine so you can wait for your cpu. And again, for your gpu the top Navi part (Rumored around gtx 1080/2070 performance) could be a good replacement. The prices for that are also going to be very competitive. Both launches should arrive in June/July so I'd wait until then. They may even have bundles for Navi and Zen2, so that should put the prices down even more. That's what you should be aiming for

 

If you want to buy a gpu NOW, this is what I'd do. Instead of the RTX 2070 which is stupidly overpriced, I'd get this strix vega 64 which is on amazing price right now:

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/product/7nYWGX/asus-radeon-rx-vega-64-8gb-rog-strix-video-card-rog-strix-rxvega64-o8g-gaming

 

There's also the sapphire nitro which is really good as well:

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/product/MssmP6/sapphire-radeon-rx-vega-64-8gb-nitro-video-card-11275-03-40g

 

Vega 64 performs close to the 2070, and maintains the 8gb vram. Just for much cheaper.

 

I'd also pair that with a much better psu. You can get a rm650x which can handle the vega card. All that comes to pretty much the same price as the rtx 2070 you mentioned.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
Video Card	Asus - Radeon RX VEGA 64 8 GB ROG STRIX Video Card	€404.70 @ TopAchat
Power Supply	Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	€106.99 @ Amazon France
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€511.69
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-11 23:34 CEST+0200

 

If you can wait for Zen2 AND Navi though, do that instead. It'll be worth it.

 

 

[GAMINGGUY]

10 minutes ago, Enndless said:

Nope.the CPU's not overclocked,it's not the K version.I got it pretty cheap almost 5 years ago and never changed.

I don't know how accurate are the gaming benchmarks on YouTube,but in some games Ryzen 7 gets crushed by i5 9600k

Yeah, I would have to change everything except for the case and SSD and I wanted to avoid that, especially that the prices in Europe are still pretty high, even a few generations back.

yeah, almost always intel defeats amd cpus

[suchamoneypit]

13 minutes ago, SpookyCitrus said:

I don't know anything about the used market in your country but I know here I can find 1070s, 1070tis, and 1080s for under or just over $300 USD. Found a 1080 for $325 and a 1070ti for $250 just yesterday in my local classifieds. They would be much less of a bottleneck on that 4790 maybe check Ebay or your local classifieds for any sort of deal on a decent 10 series card.

Just to add in on used cards, on eBay 1070s can be had for $200-240. Rx 580s are a like $130-140. R9 Furys are around $140. Vega 56 are around $260-300. All great price to performance.

[Enndless]

4 minutes ago, suchamoneypit said:

Just to add in on used cards, on eBay 1070s can be had for $200-240. Rx 580s are a like $130-140. R9 Furys are around $140. Vega 56 are around $260-300. All great price to performance.

I don't see any sense in replacing my GTX980 with any of those.

[Enndless]

I think I'll just postpone that change and replace my system entirely in a few months.

Bottlenecking that card seems to be pointless.

I was thinking about playing games in 1440p and getting more FPS in more competitive titles in 1080p, but since I cannot simply change my CPU for a better one and with the prices of previous generations being stagnant, I'll wait for the next generation of Zen CPUs(as MeatFeastMan recommended).

 

Thank you for all your replies, I will return to the topic when I have sufficient funds to build a new computer.

 

[suchamoneypit]

6 hours ago, Enndless said:

I don't see any sense in replacing my GTX980 with any of those.

All of those cards are quite a bit faster than a 980, especially a vega 56. What do you mean? A 980 is worth like $150-170 on ebay. A vega 56 is worth $250-290 and around 55-60% faster. Thats a considerable amount of performance for $100 more. A Vega 56 is just shy of a 2070 for a fraction of the price.

[suchamoneypit]

Also to chime in, when you buy new hardware, it instantly depreciates and then rapidly. If you buy a $550 new GPU, its worth $400 in 3 months. If you buy a $300 used GPU from last gen, its probably worth like $270-280 in 3 months. I simply buy the $300 used card, and then when I want more performance, I can simply buy a faster $400 used card and sell my old one. The cost of the upgrade is very cheap and im not hit with massive deprecation. As a matter of fact, in the last 4 months, I went from a 390X, to an R9 fury, to an R9 fury X, to a 1070, to a Vega 56, and actually made profit selling the cards when I went to upgrade each time. I got paid to use the cards for 1-2 months each. I did take the time to make sure I got a good deal on each purchase though, I didn't just pick the best looking listing and buy. Same thing with CPUs. I bought my ryzen 2600x for like $200. When ryzen 3 comes out, I'll probably sell it for like $170, take the $30-50 loss (small) and then upgrade to ryzen 3 for like $100 out of pocket. I get to enjoy high performance now and get a cheap upgrade later.