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APEX LEGENDS FPS goal

I am getting an average 110fps with the same cpu but paring it with an asus strix b350 mobo , 16gb 3200mhz Ram and a RTX 2070. I have only OC the CPU to 3.7ghz atm. Playing Apex with some settings on Med. With Low setting expect to get a higher avg.

With that said at 1080p many YT reviewers said that the limiting factor would be the CPU. Ryzen 1600 has weak IPC if not the entire 1st gen ryzen, 2nd gen ryzen has slightly improved on this but with all the Hype that is going around with 3rd gen ryzen, the best thing to do is to wait for 3rd gen ryzen look at the performance + get yourself a RTX card with 8gb and above. 

Also if the leaks are true, Ryzen 7 3700X 12c/24t 4.2/5.0ghz should work wonders with plenty of headroom to spare.

Just my 2 cents..

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP

So i stream Apex legends using Streamlabs OBS which takes up about 10-20% of my CPU load (specs will be listed below) 

 

I want to upgrade my PC to get a consistant 144 FPS and right now im at about 60-80 in game everage, my question is what do i need to replace, or upgrade to hit this 144 FPS 

 

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You need Intel CPU, 8700k if you want to stream and get high FPS.


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Just now, PopsicleHustler said:

You need Intel CPU, 8700k if you want to stream and get high FPS.

that would mean building a new computer, i was asking more along the lines of like 2700x with a 2070ti or 2080ti or maybe a different CPU thats still ryzen so i don't have to get rid of the MOBO and RAM i already have LULW 

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2 minutes ago, Connor_LindTV said:

that would mean building a new computer, i was asking more along the lines of like 2700x with a 2070ti or 2080ti or maybe a different CPU thats still ryzen so i don't have to get rid of the MOBO and RAM i already have LULW 

Going intel will be your best hope.

 

You can wait to see what happens with Ryzen 3 as well.

 

If you are willing to shell out the cash for a 2080Ti which will be bottlenecked by your CPU, then why not take the intel suggestion?

 

You also havent said if you are running 1080p, 1440p, 4k?


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ASUS® ROG Strix Z390-E
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB
Graphics Card
MSI RTX 2080 Gaming X Trio

1st Drive

500GB Samsung 970 EVO NVME 

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1TB Samsung 970 EVO NVME
3rd Hard Disk
480GB KINGSTON HYPERX 3K SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 540MB/sR | 450MB/sW)
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Posted · Original PosterOP

 

Just now, Findiculous said:

Going intel will be your best hope.

 

You can wait to see what happens with Ryzen 3 as well.

 

If you are willing to shell out the cash for a 2080Ti which will be bottlenecked by your CPU, then why not take the intel suggestion?

 

You also havent said if you are running 1080p, 1440p, 4k?

fair point, 1080p medium to low settings 

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2700, what is your gpu load? I get 100+ fps med settings on a 570.

Set ragdolls to low, and other cpu things.

 

If you want a GPU upgrade, I'd reach 2060 at the minimal, getting a 1660 ti is a worthwhile upgrade from the 580.


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1 minute ago, Connor_LindTV said:

 

fair point, 1080p medium to low settings 

Alright thanks. So if you are wiling to stick to the low settings on 1080p, then you can try 2600x or higher. Also get 32GB of RAM. 

 

See how that goes.


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Intel® Core i9 9900K 8 Core 16 Threads
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG Strix Z390-E
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB
Graphics Card
MSI RTX 2080 Gaming X Trio

1st Drive

500GB Samsung 970 EVO NVME 

2nd Drive

1TB Samsung 970 EVO NVME
3rd Hard Disk
480GB KINGSTON HYPERX 3K SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 540MB/sR | 450MB/sW)
4th Hard Disk
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14 minutes ago, Connor_LindTV said:

that would mean building a new computer, i was asking more along the lines of like 2700x with a 2070ti or 2080ti or maybe a different CPU thats still ryzen so i don't have to get rid of the MOBO and RAM i already have LULW 

If you don't need a pc immediately, I advise waiting a month or two more until Ryzen 3000 arrives. That will give you what you want while being really efficient.

 

2700x isn't the end of the world though, and close to 144 is possible while streaming. This video shows it going around the 160 fps mark (without streaming that is) at low settings 1080p:

 

 

So if you can't wait, it's not a bad choice. I can't see a reason as to why you would go intel if you've got a good am4 motherboard. Stick with AMD and either go for the 2700x now, or go for the upcoming zen2 cpu's.

 

As for gpu's, you don't need the 2080ti, a Radeon VII or rtx 2080 will do just fine, as the video here shows.

 

Would I pay around $600 for 20 fps more? No, it's just crazy. I'd settle for 120,130 fps to avoid spending nonsense amounts.

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13 minutes ago, Connor_LindTV said:

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can't guarantee 2700x will get u stable 144 streaming, wait for zen 2, 


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28 minutes ago, Connor_LindTV said:

I want to upgrade my PC to get a consistant 144 FPS and right now im at about 60-80 in game everage, my question is what do i need to replace, or upgrade to hit this 144 FPS 

 

if you want to be serious about streaming, get a second PC. 

what is your framerate while you're not streaming?

 

but please note, that fps in apex is currently bugged.  they intended to cap it at 300fps, but fucked it up so its currently capped at 144fps.  so do not expect to get higher than that until it is fixed.


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So max settings or what ever it takes for 144? Nothing amd has will do so on max 1080p. 


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1 hour ago, Mick Naughty said:

So max settings or what ever it takes for 144? Nothing amd has will do so on max 1080p. 

A tuned up 2700x with good memory speeds and timings can keep up pretty well with a 5ghz 8700k, it may not get quite as high averages, but it can stream better than everything from mainstream intel that's under $500.

 

Edit: If you're talking about the gpu side, that's more valid since it's nearly impossible to get a radeon VII.

Edited by TheDankKoosh

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10 hours ago, TheDankKoosh said:

A tuned up 2700x with good memory speeds and timings can keep up pretty well with a 5ghz 8700k, it may not get quite as high averages, but it can stream better than everything from mainstream intel that's under $500.

 

Edit: If you're talking about the gpu side, that's more valid since it's nearly impossible to get a radeon VII.

Well I was talking about gpu obviously. Don’t really care about their cpus. And the internet experts think any cpu can play any game for some reason.


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19 hours ago, Mick Naughty said:

So max settings or what ever it takes for 144? Nothing amd has will do so on max 1080p. 

may have been it more clear, but 1080p low settings almost entirely across the board 

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16 minutes ago, Connor_LindTV said:

may have been it more clear, but 1080p low settings almost entirely across the board 

Well I don’t see the point of playing on low and streaming it. Wouldn’t be watchable. Cpu encoding doesn’t look all that great anyway. I’d do the card first but without seeing the cpu usage percore on the game with and without streaming. 


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10 hours ago, Mick Naughty said:

Well I was talking about gpu obviously. Don’t really care about their cpus. And the internet experts think any cpu can play any game for some reason.

Any modern cpu can play any game to a certain extent, with the 200ge or g5400 providing playable framerates in most games. The 8700k/9700k would be inferior if he is trying to stream off of the cpu, simple as that. The 2700x is much cheaper and provides better performance for this use case. I'm no internet expert, but I know my hardware well enough.

 

2 hours ago, Mick Naughty said:

Well I don’t see the point of playing on low and streaming it. Wouldn’t be watchable. Cpu encoding doesn’t look all that great anyway. I’d do the card first but without seeing the cpu usage percore on the game with and without streaming. 

Most streamers use either medium or low settings for intensive games so they can perform better (due to stuff like foliage being less dense) and have higher framerates.


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5 minutes ago, TheDankKoosh said:

Any modern cpu can play any game to a certain extent, with the 200ge or g5400 providing playable framerates in most games. The 8700k/9700k would be inferior if he is trying to stream off of the cpu, simple as that. The 2700x is much cheaper and provides better performance for this use case. I'm no internet expert, but I know my hardware well enough.

 

Most streamers use either medium or low settings for intensive games so they can perform better (due to stuff like foliage being less dense) and have higher framerates.

Like I said, don't care about the cpu's as everyones idea of playable is different. 

 

Also only one streamer I know plays with settings on low. At that was only in the pubg beta days. They all have good cards so no reason to turn settings down that far when capped frame games are being played. Most don't even stream off the same pc, like myself. 


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I am getting an average 110fps with the same cpu but paring it with an asus strix b350 mobo , 16gb 3200mhz Ram and a RTX 2070. I have only OC the CPU to 3.7ghz atm. Playing Apex with some settings on Med. With Low setting expect to get a higher avg.

With that said at 1080p many YT reviewers said that the limiting factor would be the CPU. Ryzen 1600 has weak IPC if not the entire 1st gen ryzen, 2nd gen ryzen has slightly improved on this but with all the Hype that is going around with 3rd gen ryzen, the best thing to do is to wait for 3rd gen ryzen look at the performance + get yourself a RTX card with 8gb and above. 

Also if the leaks are true, Ryzen 7 3700X 12c/24t 4.2/5.0ghz should work wonders with plenty of headroom to spare.

Just my 2 cents..

 

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