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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, Chevy_Monsenhor said:

Mine doesn't but my friend's GT8 does, the voltage on his is all over the place.

Mine is beyond annoying with RAM, some kits it doesn't boot with.

then you know why it's there... biostar wanted it to be their high end board, but even the gt7 does better


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4 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

then you know why it's there... biostar wanted it to be their high end board, but even the gt7 does better

Unfortunately so, even when it had just launched it had a really nice price considering the components, that's why i jumped on mine.

It has been around for a while now, i'm selling it before it loses value, i'm picking between the Strix X470-F, Aorus Ultra and Gaming 5 Wi-Fi, also some MSI models on the list.


Project Terra: Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming /// CPU: Ryzen 5 3600X  /// CPU Cooler: Scythe Ninja 5/// GPU: Zotac AMP Extreme RTX 2070 /// RAM: 2x 8gb Team T-Force Xtreem @3600mhz /// Chassis: InWin 805 w/ MNPCTech handles /// PSU: Thermaltake ToughPower Grand Gold 650W /// Storage: Inland Premium 1TB NVME + Toshiba X300 4TB /// OS: Windows 10 Pro

 

Peripherals: Mice: Glorious Model O, Logitech G305 /// Keyboard: Leopold FC900R (Cherry Pink), Logitech G613 (Romer G) /// Monitor: AOC Agon AG322FCX 32' (VA, 1080p @144hz) /// AMP: Onkyo Integra A-817XD /// DAC: Loxjie D10 (Red) /// Speakers: Polk Audio TSi100 /// Mike: Superlux E205U /// Headphones: Sony MDR-XB920 & Koss Pro4AAA Titanium

 

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31 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

yep, it's the one you linked

no way, why would that be there? It's just a 4 phase with 8 sets of 4C10N and 4C06N... and not even super good heatsinks


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CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.4?V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

no way, why would that be there? It's just a 4 phase with 8 sets of 4C10N and 4C06N... and not even super good heatsinks

To be fair that's why it confused me, its dirty cheap as well and readily available around here.


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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

no way, why would that be there? It's just a 4 phase with 8 sets of 4C10N and 4C06N... and not even super good heatsinks

yeah, i noticed some mistakes there

 

same case for fatal1ty?


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8 minutes ago, Chevy_Monsenhor said:

To be fair that's why it confused me, its dirty cheap as well and readily available around here.

it's a cheap board with a ton of features so to say, even an external BCLK generator which many better boards lack. Imagine buying the cheapest model of car from any brand you know, then adding in all the optional extras to not look so cheap.

 

Oh and it overclocks memory badly so no good for APU overclocking

8 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

same case for fatal1ty?

whcih fatal1ty?


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CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.4?V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

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12 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Oh and it overclocks memory badly

Might as well stay with my GT8 then, thats the same issue i already have.

 

What about the Strix X470-F, worth the sidegrade?


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16 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

whcih fatal1ty?

x470


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Found an ASRock Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming, sealed, under the price of standard B450s.

I don't care, i'm going for it.


Project Terra: Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming /// CPU: Ryzen 5 3600X  /// CPU Cooler: Scythe Ninja 5/// GPU: Zotac AMP Extreme RTX 2070 /// RAM: 2x 8gb Team T-Force Xtreem @3600mhz /// Chassis: InWin 805 w/ MNPCTech handles /// PSU: Thermaltake ToughPower Grand Gold 650W /// Storage: Inland Premium 1TB NVME + Toshiba X300 4TB /// OS: Windows 10 Pro

 

Peripherals: Mice: Glorious Model O, Logitech G305 /// Keyboard: Leopold FC900R (Cherry Pink), Logitech G613 (Romer G) /// Monitor: AOC Agon AG322FCX 32' (VA, 1080p @144hz) /// AMP: Onkyo Integra A-817XD /// DAC: Loxjie D10 (Red) /// Speakers: Polk Audio TSi100 /// Mike: Superlux E205U /// Headphones: Sony MDR-XB920 & Koss Pro4AAA Titanium

 

Living room: TV: Samsung QLED Q7FN 55' 4k /// Amplifier: Hegel H90 /// Speakers: DALI Zensor 7 /// Consoles: Sony PS4 Pro 1TB, Sony PS3 500gb /// LD/CD/DVD: Pioneer DVL-909 /// Power Supplies: Upsai ACF-2100T + GR Savage CDR2200EX

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6 hours ago, Chevy_Monsenhor said:

What about the Strix X470-F, worth the sidegrade?

direct competitor to the Taichi (also Taichi Ultimate and Professional Gaming), better software imo but not as strong VRM.

 

6 hours ago, LukeSavenije said:

x470

the K4? Even the better 4 phase with 8 sets of SM4337 and SM4336 is worse than that with 8 sets of 4C10 and 4C06, not to mention the PZ0903PK and PK618BA setup that's also used.... Using Niko-sem's cheap stuff is what screwed over MSI's B350 and X370 boards you know. I shit on so many 4C10 + 4C06 setups on boards past $80 all the time so to be fair, I wont be giving all the Asrock 4 phase boards any good time if they cost more than that (with WiFi and BT then maybe $100 tops)

 

The ITX board is much better in contrast, though only a 3 phase Vcore is rather disappointing as it's limited by the ISL95712 controller (4+3 max, with integrated drivers so cant add doublers even if they want to). The powerstages are totally fine, better than the 40A ones on the Asus and Gigabyte boards.


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Hardware specs below

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.4?V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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5 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Professional Gaming

I found one of these for cheaper than even the X470 Ultra Gaming, i took the opportunity, quite the strong VRM, it seems.

It also has Wi-Fi which was the main selling point of the X470 Gaming 5 for me, i miss it from my AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac.


Project Terra: Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming /// CPU: Ryzen 5 3600X  /// CPU Cooler: Scythe Ninja 5/// GPU: Zotac AMP Extreme RTX 2070 /// RAM: 2x 8gb Team T-Force Xtreem @3600mhz /// Chassis: InWin 805 w/ MNPCTech handles /// PSU: Thermaltake ToughPower Grand Gold 650W /// Storage: Inland Premium 1TB NVME + Toshiba X300 4TB /// OS: Windows 10 Pro

 

Peripherals: Mice: Glorious Model O, Logitech G305 /// Keyboard: Leopold FC900R (Cherry Pink), Logitech G613 (Romer G) /// Monitor: AOC Agon AG322FCX 32' (VA, 1080p @144hz) /// AMP: Onkyo Integra A-817XD /// DAC: Loxjie D10 (Red) /// Speakers: Polk Audio TSi100 /// Mike: Superlux E205U /// Headphones: Sony MDR-XB920 & Koss Pro4AAA Titanium

 

Living room: TV: Samsung QLED Q7FN 55' 4k /// Amplifier: Hegel H90 /// Speakers: DALI Zensor 7 /// Consoles: Sony PS4 Pro 1TB, Sony PS3 500gb /// LD/CD/DVD: Pioneer DVL-909 /// Power Supplies: Upsai ACF-2100T + GR Savage CDR2200EX

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Isn't C6H Extreme pretty much the same as regular C6H except for being bit wider and having more headers for water cooling? 

Where would Asrock Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming rank? BIOS is pretty bad from what I have heard, but it has best VRMs out of all X370 boards.


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Is there any info on B450GT3 or B450 VDH plus? I don't see any that is useful enough for me, example only introductions.

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3 hours ago, Quadriplegic said:

Where would Asrock Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming rank? BIOS is pretty bad from what I have heard, but it has best VRMs out of all X370 boards.

Top I assume? After all this is a VRM list, not BIOS list

 

1 hour ago, Oalei said:

B450 VDH plus

MSI mATX boards are all the same VRM, ATX boards are another set of VRM and the same among them except the X470 Carbon and M7


"What's under the heatsink?" ep1, "Why it's not as good as it seem?" AMD fanboy edition out, episode 2 "Why my gaming board is a scam?" Intel fanboy edition coming soon (this is a link)

Hardware specs below

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.4?V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

MSI mATX boards are all the same VRM, ATX boards are another set of VRM and the same among them except the X470 Carbon and M7

didn't the vdh have it worse cooled?


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Laptop: HP Elitebook 8460p

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6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

MSI mATX boards are all the same VRM, ATX boards are another set of VRM and the same among them except the X470 Carbon and M7

How about any Biostar B450 Boads? i dont see anything except it can OC the 2700X to 4.2 stable (B450GT3) but no temps for VRM or anything else.

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2 minutes ago, Oalei said:

How about any Biostar B450 Boads? i dont see anything except it can OC the 2700X to 4.2 stable (B450GT3) but no temps for VRM or anything else.

i wouldn't get anything except the gt7, gtn and b350 gt3 for biostar on am4

 

others have some pretty harsh issues or are pretty weak


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3 hours ago, Quadriplegic said:

Isn't C6H Extreme pretty much the same as regular C6H except for being bit wider and having more headers for water cooling? 

both are a 4+2 with ASP1405I, so no difference there


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12 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

didn't the vdh have it worse cooled?

Compares to things like the Mortar, yes. Not enough to separate it from the bunch imo

 

15 minutes ago, Oalei said:

How about any Biostar B450 Boads? 

My bet on the GT3 will be the same 4 phase SM4377 + 2x SM4364A other cheap Biostar boards, which means it's even worse than the 4C10N/ 4C09B + 4C06 setup used by Asus and Gigabyte. Could be a touch better than Asrock's niko sem stuff though

 

3 hours ago, Quadriplegic said:

Isn't C6H Extreme pretty much the same as regular C6H except for being bit wider and having more headers for water cooling? 

Hero: 40A powerstages also found on the Taichi, the CSD87350

Extreme: 60A powerstages used by everyone on different platforms, the IR3555

 

Interestingly the doublers are different (IR3598 v.s. IR3599) even though they really dont need to as the 98's extra feature to work as a dual driver isnt used.


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3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

My bet on the GT3 will be the same 4 phase SM4377 + 2x SM4364A other cheap Biostar boards, which means it's even worse than the 4C10N/ 4C09B + 4C06 setup used by Asus and Gigabyte. Could be a touch better than Asrock's niko sem stuff though

yeah... the problem is with some biostar boards that they have voltage problems, memory overclock problems, things like that


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3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

My bet on the GT3 will be the same 4 phase SM4377 + 2x SM4364A other cheap Biostar boards, which means it's even worse than the 4C10N/ 4C09B + 4C06 setup used by Asus and Gigabyte. Could be a touch better than Asrock's niko sem stuff though

thanks for the input but i still dont even understand this stuff, what do you mean could be on par or better than asrock? can you tell me a spesific model or something?

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6 minutes ago, Oalei said:

thanks for the input but i still dont even understand this stuff, what do you mean could be on par or better than asrock? can you tell me a spesific model or something?

Asrock's PZ0903BK + PK618BA or SM4337 + SM4336. Asrock used both in 6 set of mosfets in 3 phase mode and 8 sets of mosfet in 4 phase mode in plenty of boards like the Pro4, MAster, Gaming X and Steel Legend. Only the 4 phase config with SM4337 + SM4336 is better than Biostar's setup.


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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Asrock's PZ0903BK + PK618BA or SM4337 + SM4336. Asrock used both in 6 set of mosfets in 3 phase mode and 8 sets of mosfet in 4 phase mode in plenty of boards like the Pro4, MAster, Gaming X and Steel Legend. Only the 4 phase config with SM4337 + SM4336 is better than Biostar's setup.

thanks man this tells me what models mosfet have's on cheap AM4 Boards (or some specific brand), this is very useful for me to start learning about mosfet and stuff. By you mean 4 Phase is basiccaly not any of asrock B450 (if i remembered correctly all of them uses 3+3 config) and other B450 Boards that have 4 phase configh with SM4337 + SM4336? thanks for this, i love you

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5 minutes ago, Oalei said:

By you mean 4 Phase is basiccaly not any of asrock B450 (if i remembered correctly all of them uses 3+3 config) and other B450 Boards that have 4 phase configh with SM4337 + SM4336?

Only the Pro4 and some fatality boards based on the Pro4 use 3+3 phase, other cheap boards are 4+2.

 

I guess it's a supply issue, Asrock just puts whatever arrives in the factory first onto their boards


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Just now, Jurrunio said:

Only the Pro4 and some fatality boards based on the Pro4 use 3+3 phase, other cheap boards are 4+2.

 

I guess it's a supply issue, Asrock just puts whatever arrives in the factory first onto their boards

wait wait wait, so does this means the HDV have 4+2 phase design with that kind of model? idk what you mean by other cheap board, everything else is in range of Buyable, the only thing that is cheaper is the HDV and some other models (like 1 or 2).

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