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    Kaneitto reacted to Delicieuxz in Youtube-DL DMCA'ed by RIAA   
    Guess people will just have to download it from their website now?
     
    https://youtube-dl.org/
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    Kaneitto reacted to Rem0o in FanControl, my take on a SpeedFan replacement   
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    Version updated date: 11/04/2022
     
    Current update version: 136
     
    https://getfancontrol.com
     
    To run at startup: Use the new "Start with Windows" option in the left hamburger menu
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    I built a new custom UI on top of OpenHardwareMonitor with additional features, mainly linear fan curves with custom temperature sources.
     
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    As you guys may know, SpeedFan is sadly not updated anymore, so newer boards are not detected properly. 
     
    The main feature I used was the custom fan curves with custom temperature sources. I used it to bind my case fans speed to the hottest component of my PC, my GPU. 
    (My BIOS only supports CPU temperature as a temperature source for the PWM fans).
     
    I searched around for an alternative software with this particular feature and only found a paid option (Angus Monitor).
     
    However, I also came around this:

    https://github.com/openhardwaremonitor/openhardwaremonitor
    https://github.com/LibreHardwareMonitor/LibreHardwareMonitor
     
    The first link is an original project which could be downloaded here https://openhardwaremonitor.org/, but just like SpeedFan, the project is not updated anymore.
    However, thanks to the code base being open sourced, there are a couple of active branches, LibreHardwareMonitor being the best one I found, supporting my MSI Z390 Edge AC board and being updated regularly.
    OpenHardwareMonitor is divided into two parts, an API to interact with your hardware ( CPU, RAM, Fans... ) and a UI. The existing UI is a HWMonitor clone that allows to set a manual fan speed to any fan, but no temperature/speed fan curve here.
    ( sigh )
     
    So I decided to make my own lightweight application with the OpenHardwareMonitorLib API, and here is what I got so far...        
     
    Current features:
    OTA update Multi-config support with quick-switch from tray icon Dark/light mode + colors Graph fan curves Linear fan curves Flat fan curves Mixed fan curves Sync fan curves Custom name for each fan / curve / control Material UI ( thanks to http://materialdesigninxaml.net/ ) Smooth fan speed transitions Custom temperature source Automatic or manual matching between your controls and fan speeds Activation% (dead zone) for each fan Saves your current configuration and reload it on startup Board support is updated whenever the API gets an update!  
    Please note that this is a small personal project. It works great for my needs but I didn't test it on a hundred different motherboards. Take it as it is. If it works on your current setup, well you got your fan control situation sorted at least until you change your motherboard!
     
    If you want to help me out a bit or give me feedback, I included some links/button in the left hamburger menu out of the way to send me an email
    or to pay me a 🍺 ... or 🍺🍺🍺.
     
    I will also keep an eye on this thread to see how it goes.
     
    Confirmed compatibility list from members
     
    Enjoy!
     
     
     
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    Kaneitto reacted to Mao_Zedong in "PC gaming is in a golden age", says XCOM 2 creative director   
    The golden age will be ending soon, once asus gets their shit together and actually makes well colored motherboards.
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    Kaneitto reacted to The_Strict_Nein in Frostbite Technical Director Implementing DirectX 12 in 2016; Frostbit 3 Improvements;Vulkan API   
    I'm not sure, but did he then explained removing windows legacy which would bring benefits of a modern graphics API & memory management?
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    Kaneitto reacted to qwertywarrior in SSD CES news in one thread (will keep updating)   
    from http://www.thessdreview.com
     
    the new Mushkin Hyperion M.2 SSD for example which, will not only reach just under 3GB/s and 350K IOPS but also, it can be had in capacities up to 1TB!

    Using the Phison PS5007 controller, the Hyperion relies on PCIe 3.0 x4 and this M.2 SSD will be available 2015 Q2 in capacities of 128,256,512 and 1TB.  The controller itself supports 256-Bit AES encryption, has end-to-end data protection, supports both NVMe and AHCI protocols and present specs identify read performance as high as 2.8GB/s, write as high as 1.2GB/s and IOPS as high as 350K.  The Hyperion will come with a 3 year warranty and pricing is not available.

    Another new SSD product for Mushkin is the stackable Scorpion XC Series SSD which can presently reach capacities as high  as 2TB by stacking up to 4 x 512 daughterboards as shown in this picture.  The drive relies on PCIe 2.0 x 2 and utilizes SandForce controllers, however, these can be traded off in the build process with the SMI SM2246EN controller which would provide for capacities up to an amazing 4TB.

    Performance of the Scorpion XC is listed as 880MB/s read and 840MB/s write and this SSD also comes with a 3 year warranty.

    Last but not least, Mushkin will also be offering their new Striker SSD in a typical notebook form factor.  The Striker is another Phison controlled SSD and utilizes the PS3110 SATA 3 controller.  The Striker will be available in 240, 480 and 960 GB capacities and performance is listed as up to 565MB/s read, 550MB/s write and 92K IOPS.
    Pricing and exact release dates are not available
     
    Marvells display of their newest 88SS1093 NVMe SSD controller might be just that.

    Seen in this picture above, this controller right now is testing at speeds of 2.9GB/s and those familiar with such shots might notice that there is no heat sink attached. It seems that while the world was anticipating and waiting for the Seagate (SandForce) SF3700 controller capable of 1.8GB/s to be released, Mike Chen and Marvell had other things in mind.
    The 88SS1093 is the industries first NVM Express controller that uses PCIe 3.0 x4 and is theoretically capable of 4GB/s performance which has been unheard of previously.  This controller is compatible with a wide range of flash, including the latest TLC, supports up to 2TB and will be seen on a M.2 form factor before you know it.

    Marvell was the first to state that it won’t be long before we just might see this on a M.2 form factor and that they are not experiencing any heat concerns whatsoever that they believe might prevent us from seeing extreme high power data transfer from ultra small factor systems.  Furthermore, it is believed that this controller will be fully capable of well above 3GB/s at the time of release.
     
    http://www.legitreviews.com/plextor-m7e-m-2-pcie-ssd-performance-numbers-ces-2015_156766
     
    Plextor M7e M.2 SSD performance numbers
     
    Plextor’s suite at CES 2015 compared the new 1TB M7e versus a Samsung XP941 512GB M.2 PCIe SSD and the results were impressive. On CrystalDiskMark the Plextor M7e scored an impressive 1411 MB/s read and 1028 MB/s write. The Samsung XP941 512GB drive scored 1136 MB/s read and 929MB/s write. These are blistering speeds for a single drive and the sequential numbers it makes your SATA III SSD look painfully slow. When it comes to 4K performance numbers the read speeds on both the Samsung and Plextor drives were found to be 33MB/s on the Read test and then we saw the Samsung drive leading on the write test by about 12MB/s.
     
     
      http://www.pcper.com/news/Storage/CES-2015-Kingston-Launches-HyperX-Predator-PCIe-SSD   This morning Kingston officially launched their HyperX Predator. This is an M.2 PCIe 2.0 x4 SSD using a Marvell 88SS9293 controller. We would normally paste their press photo here, but we were fortunate enough to get our own photo from one of the press events last night:      
    I can see just how this design went down. Marketing guy tells design guy "make this look cool". Design guy epically succeeds by leaving the PCIe data lane differential pair traces unmasked. There's no doubt this is a PCIe 2.0 x4 SSD, as you can clearly pick out the four sets of traces. It's a subtle thing that makes the HHHL adapter board look just so much cooler.
    The HyperX Predator will also be available in a bare M.2 2280 form factor,
     
    HyperX Launches High-Performance PCIe SSD
    Powered by Marvell Controller Bootable via Standard AHCI Drivers Speeds up to 1400MB/s Read and 1000MB/s Write PCIe Gen. 2x4 Interface in M.2 Form Factor (with optional Half-Height, Half-Length Adapter) Part Number
    Capacity and Features
    SHPM2280P2/240G M.2 Form Factor 240GB
    SHPM2280P2/480G M.2 Form Factor 480GB
    SHPM2280P2H/240G HHHL Form Factor 240GB
    SHPM2280P2H/480G HHHL Form Factor 480GB
    SHPM2280P2H/960G HHHL Form Factor 960GB (coming later Q1/Q2)
     
     
    thx @kameshss
    http://www.legitreviews.com/plextor-m6e-black-edition-pcie-ssd-announced-enthusiasts_156828
     
    above i posted about the M7e now Plextor has announced the M6e black edition
     
    Plextor today announced the M6e Black Edition PCIe Series SSD that utilizes the PCIe Gen 2.0 x 2 interface. Plextor did away with the traditional green PCB and went with a black version with an aggressive looking heatsink over the M.2 PCIe SSD to ensure that it is kept as cool as possible. The drive uses the Marvell 88SS9183 controller along with Toshiba Toggle NAND Flash memory just like the original M6e.
     
    the peroformance numbers are exactly the same as the old standard m6e the difference is that it now has the "plexturbo 2.0" which is a 4GB cache
     
      http://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/micron-adds-value-minded-bx100-enthusiast-mx200-micron-ssd-family-ces-2015-update/   Crucial comes with the BX100 sata 3 line of ssds at AMAZING PRiCES   The BX100 is a SATA 3 notebook entry SSD and is based on the ever popular SMI 2246EN controller, while the MX200 still relies on Marvell designs.  Both have a 3 year warranty. Performance for both the BX100 and MX100 can be seen in this slide:

    Value?  Take a look at this chart below and look at the 512GB price point of $199 MSRP…  Let the price wars heat up!

      it has a 3 year warranty    http://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/ocz-displays-new-jetexpress-controller-and-new-ssds-ces-2015-update/   OCZ comes back with a BLOW ! OCZ is showing off their brand new vextor series performance of up to 550MB/s read and 530MB/s write. Random 4K IOPS are rated for 100K read and 95K write.   this is nothing mind blowing but what is coming next is BIG this is OCZ first time having an M2 product   In short, a beast of a new controller, JetExpress.
    JetExpress has been designed for both consumer and enterprise applications. In order to support the new NVMe protocol, OCZ had to completely start from scratch with their JetExpress SSD controller. It has native SATA and PCI Express support and supports multiple form factors such as M.2, 2.5” SATA, and SFF-8639. One of the feature of this controller is that it dynamically adjusts error correction algorithms as the flash wears over its useful life. This ability increases flash endurance while allowing for the best performance possible over the life of the drive.

    JetExpress is expected to first launch in enterprise products starting mid-2015. Consumer products featuring the new controller should be expected by the end of the year.
    Furthermore, OCZ showed off another little beast, their latest enterprise PCIe 3.0 NVMe SSD, the Z-Drive 6000. This drive comes in a SFF 2.5” form factor and comes with native PCIe 3.0 x4 support and is NVMe 1.1a certified. The controller for this drive is a PMC Sierra Princeton chip with OCZ-proprietary firmware.

    The SFF-8639 connector supports hot plugging. The drive utilizes internal RAID for read speeds up to 3GB/s and write speeds up to 2GB/s. Random 4K IOPs are rated up to 700K read and 175K write. It also has power loss data protection and XTS-AES-256-bit encryption. There is closed loop power control w/SPP and power consumption is rated at 25W and there are 20W and 15W low power mode options. Finally, capacities for the Z-Drive 6000 are 800GB, 1.6TB, and 3.2TB.

    And to wrap things up, they also had their Saber 1000 series SSD on display. It is an entry level enterprise SATA SSD ideal for hyperscale, web-hosting, and distributed computing environments. It hosts a Barefoot 3 controller and Toshiba A19 NAND flash. This combination allows for sustained read and write speeds up to 550MB/s and 515MB/s respectively. Random 4K read performance is rated for up to 98K IOPS and write for 23K IOPs. As with the OCZ Vector it also has PFM+. It also has central management capability via OCZ StoragePeak 1000. Capacities are available in 240GB, 480GB, and 960GB.
     
    http://www.techpowerup.com/208695/toshiba-to-showcase-worlds-first-pci-express-single-package-ssd.html
     
    Toshiba to Showcase World's First PCI Express Single Package SSD
     
    Toshiba Corporation's Semiconductor & Storage Products Company announced it will showcase a reference display of the world's first PCI Express (PCIe) single package SSD, integrating up to 256 GB in a single BGA package,
     

     
    The new SSDs incorporate PCI Express, a high speed serial I/O interface for PCs, as physical interface and NVM Express optimized for SSDs as command interface.
     

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    Kaneitto reacted to LAwLz in Phil Spencer(MS) commits to PC Gaming again....   
    I wonder how many times I've heard this before...
     
    Oh wait, I don't have to wonder since we have a list of it:
    February 2014 - Microsoft says that they are very dedicated to PC gaming.
    Makes Tomb Raider Xbone exclusive, locks the majority of PC users out from using the latest DirectX version, very slow with releasing things like Xbone controller support for the PC and have in general not really change.
    I wouldn't be surprised if PC becomes a second-class citizen for Minecraft now that they bought that for 2.5 billion dollars.
     
    October 2014 - Microsoft pledges that they will support PC gaming in a meaningful way going forward
    I am willing to bet that nothing will happen.
     
    Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Try to fool me 14 times, fuck off.
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    Kaneitto reacted to LAwLz in Teksyndicate's review of the Surface Pro 3 (High quality review from Wendell)   
    With a title like "the nerdiest review" I was expecting something in depth, but it didn't feel like he did any tests on it. It was mostly very basic stuff in the video. Other than the external display limitations, it was all stuff I could have figured out by spending like 15 minutes with one in the store.
    The review on the website isn't that much more in depth either.
     
    The review wasn't as bad as a lot of their videos, but with a title like that I thought it would contain far more in depth info. He didn't show a single test. No benchmarks, no battery tests, no screen measurements, etc.
    I am surprised by the small amount of info he managed to convey in 18 minutes. What he did say seemed good and accurate though.
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    Kaneitto reacted to GoodBytes in Teksyndicate's review of the Surface Pro 3 (High quality review from Wendell)   
    I don't get this guy. He spends a huge time complaining about resolution limitation that it can only do 4K at 30Hz. The same rant he has been pulling on the Surface Pro 2. And he states at the end, that "based on his research" (yea, if you call going on Intel website "research"), that it can only do 4K 30Hz. YEA! And 2560x1600 if you have the Y series CPU, which is what the Core i3 model of the Surface Pro 3 comes with. Also, Microsoft never said "great 4K experience", they said it can DO 4K. That is all. And to top things off, he was referring at movie work, which is 24fps 4K. or 24Hz 4K if you want. So he is bashing Microsoft, for an Intel graphic limitation, which is clearly stated on Intel website. And no point Microsoft claimed 4K 60Hz, as he claims.
    And all the problems link to multiple display setup, is nothing new. Did he EVER used Intel integrated graphics? Because all laptops, ultrabooks, tablets, desktops, you name it, with Intel integrated graphics, has these issues since the longest time. Intel treats their graphics solution as "a free solution" (even though the price of it is included in the CPU), and such they don't care. The drivers are soo buggy, that you feel that the whole thing was outsourced in India or China. It affects all system. This is not a Surface Pro 3 or 2 or 1 issue.
    At work, we buy GeForce 210's and now 610's, for multiple display support, because the Intel solution tend to forget its setup, it is unreliable, it causes system crashes, and wants to work when it wants to work.
    So basically, he blames Microsoft, for an Intel issue.
    Way to go on doing "your research"
    As for Power Plans being "Balance" only. This is a limitation of the OS on Connected standby, due to the complication of Connected Standby architecture, which doesn't allow user control on power control. So yes, on battery, the wireless card will go under lowest power, as this is Windows default. If you want max performance, you need to change that.
    As for the power adapter, a common complaint with it, was that the one in the Pro 2, despite small and compact, is that "it was too big", so to make it smaller, they had to forgo 2Amp support. I am not sure if something can be done, to have both (2Amp, and small, and of course charge the Surface Pro), but having the power requirement drop with Broadwell on the next generation Surface Pro, could show a possibility.
    Also, more errors, The Surface Pro 2, DOES NOT have 2x USB ports. It only has 1. I know, I HAVE the freaking device.
    As for claiming his review is "probably the nerdiest Surface Pro 3 review". I am sorry, you can find other reviews that goes more in depth than him. He didn't even talk about the pen to start with. He didn't even mention about the batteries on the pen, the palm rejection system and how it compares with the Pro 2, heat and fan noise, the speakers, the glass, the cameras, the microphone...
    Please.
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    Kaneitto reacted to Lightning in Tom Wheeler response to the Dingo comment by John Oliver.   
    He's definitely a dingo.
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    Kaneitto reacted to Nineshadow in Tom Wheeler response to the Dingo comment by John Oliver.   
    John Oliver getting countered!
    Still,John Oliver is awesome.
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    Kaneitto reacted to LAwLz in DDR4 Cas rates higher then expected.   
    Because CL is counted in clock cycles. CL9 means that there is a 9 cycle delay between the RAM getting the command, and the data starting to come out of the RAM DIMM.
    What most people don't take into consideration though is that higher MHz means that each cycle is shorter time wise.
    Let's say we had a 1Hz RAM with CL2. Each clock cycle takes 1 second (since it's 1Hz) and there is a 2 cycles delay (because we have CL2). The delay is therefore 2 seconds. If we increase the Hz to 10Hz, each clock cycle all of a sudden takes 0.1 seconds. That means that we could have a CL 20 and still have the same delay as we had at 1Hz CL2 (if each clock cycle is 0.1 seconds then it takes 20 cycles for 2 seconds to pass).
     
    That's why you often see higher a higher CL number on RAM kits with higher MHz. Because the higher MHz there is, the less each CL # is.
    Here is a handy little table for how long each CL is at a specific MHz (in nanoseconds):
     
    1600MHz - 1.25ns
    1866MHz - 1.072ns
    2133MHz - 0.9381ns
    2400MHz - 0.8333ns
    2666Mhz - 0.7502ns
    3200Mhz - 0.625ns
     
    So 1600MHz CL9 has a latency of 1.25 * 9 = 11.25 nanoseconds.
    2400MHz CL15 has a latency of 0.8333 * 15 = 12.5
    3200MHz CL18 has the same latency as 1600MHz CL9 (11.25 nanoseconds).
     
    So it is a bit higher, but not that much. We also gain density, lower voltage (which in turn results in lower power consumption and less heat) and a lot of bandwidth.
    Like I said before, latency will most likely go down when DDR4 becomes more mature. It's not like it's worth it in the beginning anyway. Prices will probably be a lot higher than DDR3.
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    Kaneitto reacted to Mo5 in DDR4 Cas rates higher then expected.   
    It's the usual RAM stuff... higher capacity, frequency and latency, less voltage. We've expected this for a long time.
    For those who say "who needs 128GB of RAM" - the more we have get the cheaper it gets. 10 years ago we had the "who needs 1GB of RAM" and we've come to a point where 8 is standard.
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    Kaneitto reacted to HerEscutcheon in Phanteks previewed their new Mini XL and Evolv case   
    Over at cowcotland.com, I found a few interesting things about the Evolv.
     
    1- The white version has a black interior. Looks very nice.
    2- That is definitely a 200mm fan in the front.
    3- According to them, it will be priced at a ridiculously low $129 (US) !!! 
     

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    Kaneitto reacted to LAwLz in [RUMOR][4CHAN][PSA] Watchdogs Torrent Has Hidden Mining Software Running in the Background   
    Well that's your opinion. My opinion is that Ubisoft deserves the pirates because of crap like Uplay, lies, excessive amount of exclusive editions as well as preorder bonuses.
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    Kaneitto reacted to xAcid9 in How does an eight year old CPU fare in today's games ?   
    2014-2007=9

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    Kaneitto reacted to kuddlesworth9419 in G-Sync Alternative Technologies Existed for Years.   
    This happens a lot. Nvidia has done good though because without them no one would have bothered or even realised that this tech could be beneficial to gamers. It's a bit like streaming, no one has actually managed to do it even remotely as well as Nvidia with the Shield but they are a good company that pushes technology in a direction. They did it with PhysX, G-Sync and streaming I am just wandering what they have in store for us now.
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    Kaneitto reacted to HerEscutcheon in NZXT H440   
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    Kaneitto reacted to Scionyde in The real difference between "Free-Sync" vs G-Sync   
    You think fanboyism is a one-way street? Either that's indicative of your own fanboyism, or you're just choosing not to pay attention.
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    Kaneitto reacted to afa7336 in The real difference between "Free-Sync" vs G-Sync   
    Wow, thats just an ignorant thing to say. Raw power, as of now the GTX 780Ti is THE fastest graphics card out on the market right now. AMD has not, at this time, responded to it. That can't be disputed, its just the truth. AMD and Nvidia both have graphics cards tailored to the professional market. Yes, oh boy, Nvidia does sell to the Professional market, as does AMD. Even to Artists. As for your personal assumptions on sound financial decisions and businessmen? Its not even worth my breath to respond, you just are blinded by your fanboyism it seems. Sad, just sad. You have some growing up to do.
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    Kaneitto reacted to mr moose in The real difference between "Free-Sync" vs G-Sync   
    Businesses don't remain successful ( and by that I mean don't go belly up) by giving stuff away, esp. to their main competitor.  If we want to see GPU's get faster and cheaper, then AMD and Nvidia need to both be profitable and play the game.  That means they won't do anything that doesn't net them a return or invest in a technology that they can't control. 
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    Kaneitto reacted to afa7336 in The real difference between "Free-Sync" vs G-Sync   
    Just because I don't fap over every word he says, memorize every word he says and drool over him doesn't mean I don't watch him. See, I am a grown man that takes all the information in and makes up my own mind. Honestly, I don't understand why everyone puts so much stalk in Linus' words. He's just another man, he puts his pants on the same as you and I, he's no different.
     
    And where did you get that I was a regular joe, that should listen to what you had to say? I can afford about 100 revisions without breaking a sweat.
     
    That's your choice, but it doesn't make it ours. And if you really truly think its free, you're going to be in for a shock. Most monitors, to my knowledge and talking with a few people, can't really be flashed with a new revision of anything. They're normally one firmware and thats it. AMD has an amazing PR and Marketing department, don't get me wrong, but its going to piss a lot of people off now. Freesync was an internal name, as I read/heard somewhere (pcper I think). It was a direct dig at Nvidia. They actually said they had this tech for a while now... which annoys me and should annoy you. I wonder why people aren't getting pissed about that.
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    Kaneitto reacted to Jasmin in The real difference between "Free-Sync" vs G-Sync   
    Following logic of A you would kill most clever, innovative tech out there. If nobody want's to buy new, but maybe not perfect stuff then why would a company ever invest more money into the project? I get the idea behind 'not being an early adopter' but you need to accept the idea of 'voting with your wallet' if everybody votes NO by not buying early versions then you won't have later iterations. I'm not asking to go out there and buy something you like the concept of, even if it's implemented badly, when you don't have spare cash. But going around and saying 'don't be an early adopter' is going to punish you at the very end. Especially when it's 'I'd like to but don't have the money so I will talk other people out of it so I can feel better with myself'. Pure, cheap envy.
     
    IPS is great for color reproduction (apart from black on most non-pro monitors unfortunately) but is rather slow. While you can buy them as cheap as 200$ in EU there's only one IPS panel that is marketed forwards gamers - EIZO's Foris 2333. Even that thing is inferior to TN panels in terms of speed and blacks. I'd be grateful if people stopped spamming how shit TN panels are until IPS are at least equal to them in everything. Right now it's speed, no-ghosting and blacks VS colour and view angle. There's no 'better' choice for every use. Yet.
     
       
    Linus has his ideas. We have ours. He is no absolute being.
     
    Buying something when you can get it for free? Well depends on the situation. If everyone would follow it there wouldn't be F2P games out there. That's on thing.
     
    In respect to AMD's idea... Well... For one thing you would have to buy a new monitor. It's not free. The most important thing is that there's nothing to buy yet. There's no proof of concept. All I can see is an idea that great many owners of ATI graphics want to belive in so they can feel that much better about their choice even if it defies logic. 
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    Kaneitto reacted to afa7336 in The real difference between "Free-Sync" vs G-Sync   
    Oh so Linus said it, so it MUST be true? *shakes head* Linus isn't the end all be all, I've had great luck being an early adopter of tech, being a beta tester of tech and games. But hey, you and he don't want to do it, thats cool. Like I said, its a PERSONAL PREFERENCE, not some golden rule that you think everyone should follow. Which is stupid when you think about it, because well... lets be honest if everyone followed his (and I am taking your word as I haven't heard him say it myself) and your rule, no one would ever touch it, and it would stay in the early phases and real people would not touch it outside the lab. Then YOU and HE would never ever use. Makes you think about things.
     
    Covered that here pretty well above, so let me quote them, both posts, directly.
     
    Yes, that one is $800 dollars, but of course you and I can't buy it today. I was talking about what you can buy today, this exact moment. Not some product that hasn't even hit shelves and was just unveiled. I don't know how good the panel is, so I can't say whether it is good or bad. Everyone at CES was raving about how good the panel looked. There are good TN panels that look amazing, and there are total ASS panels. Just like there are ASS IPS panels. I can say MY Personal  27" TN 144hz monitor is killer, and once I personally tweaked the colors it looks damn good. But hey, you have your preferences and they aren't mine. I can't dictate to you what is best for you, just like you shouldn't go around fussing and complaining that TNs all suck and everyone should have IPS. Its not the case, and shows an attitude that you know what is best for me, when you have no clue in the world what is what.
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    Kaneitto reacted to afa7336 in The real difference between "Free-Sync" vs G-Sync   
    *coughs* G-Sync is out, you can go buy it right this second, don't try and lie about it. Nvidia does have an API, though it isn't really a Mantle type API. Oh and the Shadowplay does work pretty well from all reports I've heard from all my friends that use it. Its not perfect, but hey, it works. (I still need to be assed to try it, but I've been playing a custom modded Minecraft instance lately. I really am getting my head around Thaum4.)
     
    And you're right, people can play without the upcoming stuff from AMD or Nvidia. . Hell, I've done it on the HTPC a few time (thats the one that has the AMD in it.) But bragging about something that isn't out yet, is kinda idiotic. You don't know how ANY of it preforms at all, not a single bit. I hope it does well, but I'm not going to go putting it on a gold mantle without knowing what it can do. Its dumb.
     
     
    When will Mantle come out? No one knows. What kind of performance does Mantle give? Again, no one really knows. Oh sure, we have AMD saying something, but that doesn't matter. Thats not real testing. When will this "freesync" come out, no one knows. When will this standard DP1.3 come out? We hope Q2, but that isn't a promise. What is the performance of "freesync" on monitors? We don't know. We know the only testing that was done so far as we know is on Laptops which are totally different from actual monitors. I am betting dollars to donuts, they haven't even touched a monitor yet. When will the monitors be ready with DP1.3 (Yes more then likely you will be buying a new monitor, as of now I can't think of really any monitor you can update the firmware inside)? No one knows. There are too many what ifs to try and claim AMD victory this, AMD victory that. If anything, a fanboy could say some things about AMD. As I hate the fanboy shit, you can figure it out.
     
    G-Sync is out, we know its benefits and drawbacks, you can buy it right now. You can even upgrade your monitor (if you have the right one) today if you wanted to. Would I feel stupid? Nope, not in the least. I don't see Nvidia changing over to DP1.3, for a few different reasons. One of which is the fact that you lose all DVI connections in the monitor using DP1.3 standard. Considering that is one of the ways to get Nvidia Surround, that'd be a bitch to give up. The other is they invested a crap ton of money, along with Asus in G-Sync. That and I don't think DP1.3 is going to be the answer. I think AMD is hoping it might work, but not sure if it will or won't. It looked more like a stunt then anything else from AMD.
     
    As I said, I want AMD to do good, but you have to look at the facts and stop trying to play the Nvidia vs. AMD game. Its lame and stupid. Especially gloating over something that isn't even out yet, that not a single person knows what it can and can't do. Unless you have some inside information that no one on this forum has, that is, if that is the case, by all means share.
     
    Edit: I'm going to leave my words in here, but it seems you lose DVI anyway with G-Sync. Blah for that not being reported, so I retract that statement but leave it there. I said it, not going to delete it.
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