Curious Pineapple

Here we go again.

On 6/14/2020 at 6:03 PM, Trik'Stari said:

No one should be able to force them to give their software away for free, but if they choose to give it away for free, they should not be able to restrict the hardware you use it on. Would it be that hard for them to gate it off to only those who purchased an Apple device?

They do restrict it, by relying on a Haiku embedded in the SMC making it a copyright violation to distribute it. Of course it is publically available in legal paperwork that's published online after they took legal action to have it removed from a website.

6 minutes ago, Animesona said:

revo uninstaller is a program that uninstalls everything related to the program so i dont know why i cant get the free trail anymore

As it is a subscription based model the application likely generates a machine ID and checks to see if that's been used before.

You could always just pay for it?

12 minutes ago, TomvanWijnen said:

Not everyone wants to or even can spend more on a phone. And, what do you mean with that expiry date? Just because something doesn't get (useless) updates, doesn't suddenly mean it's unusable.

In the Apple world a 2 year old phone is too old to bother with, even though Apple gets so much praise for offering software updates for 5 years, on devices that are too old to bother with, but at least they get updates.

Most people use a device for 2 years and get a new one on a contract. Apple only support devices for so long because it allows people who can't or won't spend so much on a new device to still get into the ecosystem. As soon as the updates stop, Apple devices are worthless.

6 hours ago, DrMacintosh said:

There are a lot on the market. Also USB-C is slow compared to TB3. 40GB/s is too fast to just say "use USB-C" instead.

No external storage device can make use of that bandwidth, and on a large system like this there is little need to be fannying around with external devices when you can have a bunch of PCie 4.0 16x slots inside the machine.

Maybe for some specific use cases such as high speed cameras where you need to shovel that raw data into RAM in realtime, but then PCIe slots with more lanes would probably be a better solution.

1 minute ago, Kisai said:

And your point is? A Samsung Note 9 is USD $600, previously owned or $1300 new, yet likely won't get Android 11, as Samsung hasn't supported more than 2 major versions of Android.  So you just paid £259 to get 4 more months out of your two year old phone.

Well firstly I didnt break it, was just a quote. Secondly as I said, it's nowhere near the new cost of the device unlike Apple who would rather push a customer into a new device than just repairing the perfectly usable old one. Does Apple say "well, you can just go out and buy a used phone for the same price as we're about to charge you"? No, they offer a refurb in exchange for a 6 (plus money) that they "can't repair", then refurb that and sell it on to some other unsuspecting fool.

Even if I did need a new screen, Android supports applications for a lot longer than Apple devices do.

5 minutes ago, Kisai said:

If someone wants to repaid their phone to get more life out of it, I hate to break it to you, but you aren't getting more life out of most Android devices because they are not designed to last more than 2 years.

I have a Galaxy S2 that still works fine and runs modern applications. Hate to break it to you, but you're talking crap again.

5 minutes ago, Kisai said:

So what. You putting a target on Apple and excusing everyone else. If you're turning a blindeye to everyone, and going "oh no, APPLE is doing it, it's only bad when APPLE does it" then you must really think Apple is pandering rubbish off on unsuspecting fools.

Just got a quote from Samsung for a new display on a Note 9, fitted locally within an hour. £259. Bit less than the cost of a new device isn't it. No excuse for Apple shipping the damn device with a week turnaround for a price that's "not far off the cost of a new one".

Yeh, people that choose that level of customer service are a bunch of unsuspecting fools.

22 hours ago, Kisai said:

Just try to get a vehicle ECU, I dare you. Or any number of the sensors on a vehicle. It will either cost you more than the car, or the dealership will refuse to service it if the manufacturer doesn't have a recall for it.

I bought 4 for my project car, from the factory they were designed to be cleared and reprogrammed for new immobilizers so that the customer wasn't forced to replace the entire lockset if the ECU failed. Also means the manufacturer doesn't have to replace the entire lock set if an ECU fails. I was at a scrap yard on Saturday, I could have removed any number of ECU's that could be easily fitted to other vehicles. There is a difference between not knowing how to do something, and not being able to shite design

Sensors are cheap, very cheap, and if you swap them over from one car to another they still work. £25 for a brand new Alfa Romeo crank sensor, only failed sensor on a 19 year old car known for electrical failures. Timing belt was a £60 job with all genuine parts. I fried the airbag ECU with a dash swap, choppped the wiring from my donor car and spliced it in. Same bags, same wiring layout, same bolt holes. Things just fit and work. Parts in cars are used for several generations and across several manufacturers for cost savings. Control units may be paired together in most recent vehicles, but manufacturers still sell the data needed to run diagnostics and replace parts. That's part of the reason professional diagnostic gear costs thousands, it includes the cost of buying the diagnostic and repair information from every vehicle manufacturer.

14 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

You can turn on a Commodore 64 today and it will still work and do everything it was supposed to when it was designed. Does not change the fact that they are obsolete and only have sentimental value.  

Because a C64 is really a good comparison. We're talking 6 years here not 3 decades. Maybe in the Apple world you consider 6 years old to be an artifact of historic interest, but not everyone thinks that way.

8 minutes ago, Liltrekkie said:

If software was no longer being developed then explain how Pokemon Go, and literally tons of other games that receive daily updates and new features, still work? Obviously someone is maintaining that software. Also, 32 bit systems may be more vulnerable, but that doesn't matter if even recent phones aren't getting their security patches anyway. Many carriers are guilty of not pushing security patches as often, or ever, as they should. And let's not forget how iOS security is "fucked". I guess those phones can't be trusted on a network either. Care to amend your statements?

Prepare for cannon fire!

5 hours ago, DrMacintosh said:

Hmm, Apple introduced the worlds first consumer ARM processor with the A7 in 2013. 
 

There is no excuse or valid reason for 32Bit handsets to still be in use after this long. 

Maybe they still work?

Big chonky iMac.

The tools to install MacOS are freely available, simply providing the user with a Windows machine and all the tools required with instructions would be no problem. There's VM images of MacOS that boot right up that have been floating around online for years. Anyone wanting a Hackintosh should probably install it themselves as there is some knowledge needed to maintain and update it. The company doesn't need to provide any MacOS disk images, you can download a VM, then download the DMG inside that directly from apple. There's even a Python command line tool that downloads the image directly without needing MacOS at all.

Most components have a standard interface, meaning one driver can get the basic functionality  working. In the case of the network adaptor that may mean a basic 10Mbps link with no hardare acceleration, with USB it's enough to get devices working but maybe only at USB 1.1 speeds. When you install the manufacturers drivers, you get all the features of the hardware.

Anything apart from maybe diamonds in a pocket with keys will get scratched up eventually. That painted aluminium is no match for some scratchy steel keys.

3 hours ago, TempestCatto said:

Must be Intel based in order to heat up the chicken chamber.

It has a frame to hold it over a MacBook. Just run Prime95 degrees C and you'll have your chimken in no time.

It's the evidence of how few extra components they need to charge you an extra $100 for the next card up

9 minutes ago, hishnash said:

they are 100% vertically intergrated they make the socket the chipset and binnary bios blob. yiu cant put an intel in a amd motherboard.

Would you prefer the mess that there used to be?

2 minutes ago, mr moose said:

Besides that, I don't know how anyone can call any of the macbooks of the last few years well engineered. Is letting a sub par cooling solution go through to the end product good engineering? is shitty broken keyboards and refusing to accept responsibility until most of the customers have thrown their macs in the bin good engineering?  I don't thinks so. 

Just the users fault though isn't it? I mean, who buys a Macbook with a high performance CPU with the intention to actually run tasks that require a high performance CPU? Board fails, well the user should have expected that and backed up every 15 seconds as the data is non recoverable. SSD fails, well they can just pay for a new machine. Need more RAM in the future? Ha, should have though of that 4 years ago and spent the extra $400 for 8GB more.

It's not just the shitty treatment of customers and slipping product quality, it's the god damn users that are so blind to the issues that they will continue to throw money at Apple year after year and defend every single thing they do. "I've only had to take my Macbook in for repair 3 times in 5 years", my cheap £250 Windows laptop lasted longer than that until I finally killed the battery through lack of use. That thing still works, wherever it is.

20 hours ago, Master Disaster said:

That's unfair. Apple have many faults but the one thing you cannot accuse them of is bad engineering. In fact the opposite is true, they usually over design & over engineer everything. Form over function as they say.

Over-engineering is function over form. Making a laptop 3mm thinner and sacrificing cooling capacity is form over function. Designing an adequate cooler and working the design around that is function over form.

May try this for the hell of it. Windows VM in a ram disk.

TV antenna socket by the looks of it

Smash the monitor with a brick, will probably stop him messing with it.

4 hours ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Melts? No. I dont think it melts, its already a liquid if you want to call it that. Not usually applied frozen.

 

Perhaps you mean it thins out??

 

Its a be careful like you would with LM type of thing.

 

 

Same difference

Yeh it thins out in summer sun. I'd never apply anything runny and metallic to a CPU, not worth the risk.

What about a 90's beige whitebox?

On 6/7/2020 at 7:31 AM, ShrimpBrime said:

I've used Copper Anti-seize from the garage before. It works rather decently.

Being a grease that stuff melts, and copper all over your board won't result in a nice day.