unclewebb

I got multiple machines, laptop and desktop with PTM7950. All of which is in that situation. Performance doesnt seem to degrade as much as thermal paste even when its applied on an IHS.

The default turbo ratios that the BIOS is using are way too low. Are you using the most recent BIOS version? 
 
Push the Defaults button in the ThrottleStop FIVR window to make your CPU run at its rated speed and change PL1 from 125 to 250 in the TPL window. The 125W default PL1 power limit is way too low for a 10th Gen K series CPU. 

@lemmy37.xX
Try checking the MMIO Lock box which is near the top right of the TPL window. Push OK and see if that makes any difference. If you are still locked to 800 MHz, try checking the Speed Shift box in the TPL window. 
 
Your turbo ratios in the FIVR window are lower than the default values. Did you change this in the BIOS on purpose? Push the Defaults button in the FIVR window to reset the turbo ratios to their default values. 
 
Set IccMax in the FIVR window to the max, 255.75 for both the core and the cache. 
 
Uninstall any MSI Control software if you are using that. 
 
 

Aww shoot! She works! Thanks for the help everyone. I guess the CMOS pins worked. I also dusted the pc, especially the dimm slots and it works. Again, super grateful for the support!

@Motifator
The B660 boards do not support multiplier overclocking. Need a board with a Z series chioset for that.

That's... odd. What are you checking clocks/performance with?

You need an unlocked K series CPU and a Z series motherboard tu run all cores at the maximum multiplier. 
 
4.1 GHz is the all core limit for a Core i3-10100.

Straight from Intel: Performance Hybrid Core Architecture of Intel® Core™...

Did you enable the C states in the BIOS like I suggested? Intel non K CPUs cannot use the maximum multiplier when lightly loaded if the C states are disabled. When your computer is idle at the desktop, open the ThrottleStop C states window and make sure those are working correctly. When the C states are disabled, the maximum multiplier is limited to 36. 
 
When the C states are enabled, run something simple like a TS Bench 1 Thread test. You should see multipliers higher than 36. 
 

 
The Turbo column shows the default maximum multipliers available for your CPU based on how many cores are active. 38, 38, 37, 36 are the maximums. Using ThrottleStop to set all of the turbo ratios to 38 will be ignored by the CPU. Disable the C states and only the 4 active cores multiplier will be available. 
 
The Set Multiplier feature in ThrottleStop does not work when you disable SpeedStep. It is OK to disable BD PROCHOT and C1E but you should enable SpeedStep. 
 
Some Haswell processors running very early microcode versions could bypass the maximum multiplier limits. You are using microcode 0x27. All of the early tricks have been blocked by Intel. 

Your Xeon processor does not support using the maximum multiplier when all cores are active. You need a K series CPU and a Z series motherboard for that feature. Post a screenshot of the ThrottleStop FIVR window.
 
3.80 GHz is the maximum speed. It is only available when a single core is active. 
 
When you disable the C states, this disables maximum turbo boost. A Xeon works differently than a K series CPU. Does ThrottleStop show +0 in the FIVR Turbo Overclocking section?
 

Your Xeon processor does not support using the maximum multiplier when all cores are active. You need a K series CPU and a Z series motherboard for that feature. Post a screenshot of the ThrottleStop FIVR window.
 
3.80 GHz is the maximum speed. It is only available when a single core is active. 
 
When you disable the C states, this disables maximum turbo boost. A Xeon works differently than a K series CPU. Does ThrottleStop show +0 in the FIVR Turbo Overclocking section?
 

@unzoid
Sky high idle temps when using the Intel OEM cooler are usually caused by only having 3 of the 4 push pins pushed all the way through the motherboard. If you cannot see the backside of the motherboard then pull the motherboard so you can see if all 4 pins are seated. This will probably solve this problem.
 
Many people push the pins in one at a time. That is usually a mistake. Best to push two diagonal pins in at a time. When you do one at a time, often times the last one does not go all the way through the motherboard. 

@zodern
The biggest problem with Intel CPUs is that the default voltage is set too high. Reducing the excess voltage can make a big difference.
 
I have a similar 10850K. It is a 14nm CPU just like yours but it has 10 cores instead of 8. According to the internet, it runs hot. After I adjusted the voltage I found that it does not run hot at all. I overclocked it to the same speed that a 10900K runs at. When fully loaded running Cinebench it only reaches 66°C. For cooling I am using a 240mm Corsair RGB PRO XT.
 
https://www.corsair.com/ca/en/p/cpu-coolers/cw-9060043-ww/icue-h100i-rgb-pro-xt-liquid-cpu-cooler-cw-9060043-ww
 
 
 
Try running Cinebench and see what HWiNFO reports for Vcore voltage. It is probably more than 1.3 V. 
 
I reduced the AC/DC loadline values in the BIOS to reduce the CPU voltage. Have a look in the BIOS for this setting. With a pre-built computer, your BIOS options are probably very limited. 
 
If you do not have access to the loadline settings then try using ThrottleStop to reduce your core and cache voltage. Post screenshots of the ThrottleStop main window, the FIVR and TPL windows if you need help. Turn on the Log File option when playing a game or doing any testing so you have a record of your CPU performance. Attach some screenshots and a log file to your next post. 

Windows 10 doesn't support the proper assignment or recognition of P and E cores. You have to use 11 to get that.

Hi, I created an account just to be able to post and thank you all.  laez, when I read your post it sounded exactly like my own issue right down to the 20+ years building PC’s. This problem was driving me crazy and finally when I came across this site I found an answer.  For me, it was the display port the whole time just like you said.  I unplugged\plugged back in and the system was back to normal operation.  I was so shocked it was that simple.  However I probably would have never figured it out because I fall victim to overlooking the easy solutions even when I try to be aware of it.  Thank you again, and everyone else too for your suggestions.

@unzoid
Sky high idle temps when using the Intel OEM cooler are usually caused by only having 3 of the 4 push pins pushed all the way through the motherboard. If you cannot see the backside of the motherboard then pull the motherboard so you can see if all 4 pins are seated. This will probably solve this problem.
 
Many people push the pins in one at a time. That is usually a mistake. Best to push two diagonal pins in at a time. When you do one at a time, often times the last one does not go all the way through the motherboard. 

@unzoid
Sky high idle temps when using the Intel OEM cooler are usually caused by only having 3 of the 4 push pins pushed all the way through the motherboard. If you cannot see the backside of the motherboard then pull the motherboard so you can see if all 4 pins are seated. This will probably solve this problem.
 
Many people push the pins in one at a time. That is usually a mistake. Best to push two diagonal pins in at a time. When you do one at a time, often times the last one does not go all the way through the motherboard. 

Ok well thank you so much for all of your help you are a diamond 💎 

The default turbo power limit for a non K CPU is only 65W. That can kill maximum performance. Go into the BIOS and set both PL1 and PL2 turbo power limits to at least 150W. That can make a big difference when playing games. 
 
Post a screenshot of the ThrottleStop 9.6 FIVR and TPL windows if you need help with this. 

I'd just leave it at stock, which retains the higher single/multi core boost ratios and lower idle power consumption, but it is your call based on your own testing.

As unclewebb has said, that's the maximum turbo speed for one core. Games will use more than one core, so the speed will drop. If you look at YouTube videos with your CPU, you'll see that it is pegged at (or near) 4 Ghz while playing games.

That is the maximum speed when one core is active. You will not see that speed when playing a game.
 
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/br/pt/ark/products/134587/intel-core-i5-12400f-processor-18m-cache-up-to-4-40-ghz.html
 
Do some testing to see what works best. Some people disable the C states so their CPU runs slower but at a more consistent speed. This will increase power consumption and your CPU might run a little hotter. Disabling the C states can reduce latency.
 
Increase the turbo power limits if your CPU cannot maintain 4.0 GHz.

I'd avoid Armory Crate on an Asus laptop, let alone an HP laptop 😂

@khalid21
ThrottleStop Limit Reasons shows a BD PROCHOT throttling problem. Try clearing the BD PROCHOT box on the main screen of ThrottleStop. 
 
This is caused by a failed sensor, likely in the power adapter. 
 
Check the Speed Shift box in the TPL window. Any recent laptop should enable this automatically in the BIOS. 
 
Why are you using Asus Armory Crate on an HP laptop?

A faster CPU will run hotter. 
 
Now I am disappointed. Come on man, live a little. The B660 boards do not support overclocking. The 51 multiplier is the default multiplier for a 13600K. Using the 48 multiplier is like granny driving her new Corvette, afraid to do the speed limit. 😀
 
Many games run fine without needing to run the CPU at its full rated speed. Whatever makes you happy. Most people are willing to sacrifice an FPS or two if it results in less heat and less fan noise.
 
If you ever decide to give the 51 multiplier another try, you can always undervolt some more to help keep the temperatures down. Try setting the core and cache offset to -125 mV and see if that is stable.  
 
That is a long time to be using a crippled, hot running computer. Great to see your memory running at its XMP rated speed. Happy gaming.