Turbo boost slowing down cpu

[Mogush]

After 2 whole years i finnaly figured ot out how to use turbo speed by using "turbo ratio offset" But it slows down my pc

[Zando_]

What board, what CPU, what's the setting in the BIOS called, what was it set to originally, and what did you change it to? Change any other settings or just that one?

[Mogush]

4 hours ago, Zando_ said:

What board, what CPU, what's the setting in the BIOS called, what was it set to originally, and what did you change it to? Change any other settings or just that one?

Msi h510m-a-pro. I3 10100.  Cpu ratio apply mode> turbo ratio offset.  The original settings is cpu ratio apply mode> all cores. Nope i didn't change anything

[Zando_]

32 minutes ago, Mogush said:

Msi h510m-a-pro. I3 10100.  Cpu ratio apply mode> turbo ratio offset.  The original settings is cpu ratio apply mode> all cores. Nope i didn't change anything

Hmmm. I can't seem to find what the turbo ratio offset is offsetting. If it's off base clock and you left it at +0 on each core, that would be why the PC runs slower. If it's off the turbo multiplier, then there could be some shenanigans with Turbo Boost that cause it to run slower. That board isn't a Z board and that CPU isn't a K chip (so no unlocked multiplier), usually the best you can do is force the single-core turbo clock on all cores. Which should be what the "all cores" ratio apply mode is doing.

[Mogush]

3 hours ago, Zando_ said:

Hmmm. I can't seem to find what the turbo ratio offset is offsetting. If it's off base clock and you left it at +0 on each core, that would be why the PC runs slower. If it's off the turbo multiplier, then there could be some shenanigans with Turbo Boost that cause it to run slower. That board isn't a Z board and that CPU isn't a K chip (so no unlocked multiplier), usually the best you can do is force the single-core turbo clock on all cores. Which should be what the "all cores" ratio apply mode is doing.

The offset is 4.3 for 1 core, 4.2 for 2 and 3 cores then 4.1 for 4 cores

[Zando_]

5 hours ago, Mogush said:

The offset is 4.3 for 1 core, 4.2 for 2 and 3 cores then 4.1 for 4 cores

That sounds about right. If you set it back to the "all cores" ratio apply mode then it should run all cores at 4.3GHz boost correct? You've changed it to run 200Mhz lower (4.1GHz) when all cores are loaded, that'd be why it's slower.

[unclewebb]

8 hours ago, Zando_ said:

all cores

You need an unlocked K series CPU and a Z series motherboard tu run all cores at the maximum multiplier. 

 

4.1 GHz is the all core limit for a Core i3-10100.

[Mogush]

15 hours ago, Zando_ said:

That sounds about right. If you set it back to the "all cores" ratio apply mode then it should run all cores at 4.3GHz boost correct? You've changed it to run 200Mhz lower (4.1GHz) when all cores are loaded, that'd be why it's slower.

What do i mean is that the base speed is 3.6ghz for all cores but the 3.6ghz is still faster than the 4.1

[Zando_]

7 hours ago, Mogush said:

What do i mean is that the base speed is 3.6ghz for all cores but the 3.6ghz is still faster than the 4.1

That's... odd. What are you checking clocks/performance with?

[unclewebb]

On 2/29/2024 at 4:24 PM, Mogush said:

After 2 whole years

Two years is a long time to figure out how to enable Intel Turbo Boost. I am not sure what "turbo ratio offset" is. It is probably not necessary. Setting an offset might be why turbo boost is not working correctly.  

 

Try running ThrottleStop 9.6

https://www.techpowerup.com/download/techpowerup-throttlestop/

 

Post screenshots of the FIVR and TPL windows. This will show if the BIOS and Windows are setting your CPU up correctly. It will also show if Intel Turbo Boost is working correctly.

 

Run something simple like Cinebench to fully load the CPU. If your computer cannot maintain the full 4.1 GHz for the entire test, open Limit Reasons and find out why. If you have a power limit throttling problem, increase the turbo power limits in the BIOS. That might be why turbo boost is not working for you.

[Mogush]

10 hours ago, Zando_ said:

That's... odd. What are you checking clocks/performance with?

Just booted up some apex and valorant, for valorant i get around 170 but now i get around 130-150

 

[Mogush]

7 hours ago, unclewebb said:

Two years is a long time to figure out how to enable Intel Turbo Boost. I am not sure what "turbo ratio offset" is. It is probably not necessary. Setting an offset might be why turbo boost is not working correctly.  

 

Try running ThrottleStop 9.6

https://www.techpowerup.com/download/techpowerup-throttlestop/

 

Post screenshots of the FIVR and TPL windows. This will show if the BIOS and Windows are setting your CPU up correctly. It will also show if Intel Turbo Boost is working correctly.

 

Run something simple like Cinebench to fully load the CPU. If your computer cannot maintain the full 4.1 GHz for the entire test, open Limit Reasons and find out why. If you have a power limit throttling problem, increase the turbo power limits in the BIOS. That might be why turbo boost is not working for you.

Ok thanks