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Is Water-Cooling worth it?

I'm planning on building a PC with a $2.5k budget, but I have one question. Is water-cooling worth it? Water-cooling adds more time to building a PC and adds another $100 or so to the price. But it also improves performance and of course, cooling. 

 

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Diminishing returns when it comes to water cooling

But it is worth it for the experience and sense of achievement 

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Not worth it. Definitely enjoyable though, if you have cash to spare and like your silence.

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No, it's main purposes are to provide better aesthetics for your pc, and better over clocks which only increase performance by a few frames. But if you want a sweet looking pc, those marginally higher scores in benchmarks, and have the money to burn, sure go for it.

Edit: thought this was for custom water cooling, if it was for and AIO cooler it's way cheaper and is less bulky than the huge nhd14. However that being said, it won't cool that much better than the d14/d15.

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[spoiler=The Story of Lord Gaben(Warning:Lots of reading or use the audio link)]"Once upon a time there was a young man called ancient Lord Gaben Newell. The young man saw that the gamers of this world were in need of protection, and so he begun a quest to better the PC gaming world for all of us. On his first day, Gabe created the half life, a wonderful game made by a wonderful lord. The peasants cried. "Why do you cry, little peasant?" the lord bequeathed. "The nearest store to my house is too far Gaben, please find us a way to get the games without the trek." said the peasant. And so on his second day, Gabe created the steam, at first the peasants hated this shit, but at least the games could downloaded rather than venturing into the cold world, and purchased. Gabe was happy, but when he looked at the peasants, they cried. "Why do you cry little peasant?" the lord bequeathed. "We need more games Prince Gaben, please convince the other knights of gaming to join your cause." said the peasant. And so on his third say, Gabe invented more games, dozens, hundreds, thousands of publishers. More games than a person could play in a lifetime. But the peasants still cried. "Why do you cry little peasant?" The lord bequeathed. "There are too many games and we are too poor, Baron Von Gaben, we need more affordable options for gaming." said the peasant. And so on the fourth day, Gabe invented sales, a wondrous new invention, never done anywhere, in which you buy something for like five bucks. In fact, sometimes, it's like two bucks or three bucks, it's pretty crazy. But oh how the peasants did cry. "Why do you cry little peasant? The lord bequeathed."We are still so poor, Count Gaben, we need games that are free. Games that can let anyone into their world, without costing them a penny." said the peasant. And so on his fifth Gabe invented Free to Play, a dangerous yet monumental idea, that he saw some Koreans do, and figured "Eh What the hell, fuckin eh, we're America, ain't nobody gonna have the best free games, but us." That would allow gamers to play for free. This time Gabe was sure the peasants were happy. He not only created a form DRM peasants wouldn't give a shit about, but also a service, that no other knight in the land could stand against. But when Gabe looked at the peasants, when Gabe looked at the peasants, they were no longer poor, they were fat and greedy. They called themselves glorious, and made fun of all the other peasant gamers of this world because their lord had treated them so well. Gabe met with these people to see if they were in fact happy, but they weren't. "Where is Half Life 3? It's been too long. What have you been doing? Taking mods and turning them into games? Pushing sales for money? FUUUCKK YOOUU GABE!!" Gabe cried a single tear. "I can't give you games that are no finished peasants." said the Lord. "WHY NOT?" yelled the peasants. "Give us the Games that are not finished. MORE. MORE. MORE." yelled the peasants. A thunderbolt struck, and Gabe went home to sleep. Gabe new that tomorrow, would not just be the sixth day, it would be the last day. And so on his sixth and final day, Gabe invented EARLY ACESSSSS!! I FUCKING HATE EARLY ACESS!!!!" 

-Bruce Willakers Source and Audio Version

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It's worth water cooling if you need the cooling and don't have anywhere else to throw your money. 

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If you are looking to overclock it a lot .. then yes. But if you just want to slightly overclock or not overclock at all, then no.

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Not worth it. Definitely enjoyable though, if you have cash to spare and like your silence.

I may have a high budget but I want value. 

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If you are looking to overclock it a lot .. then yes. But if you just want to slightly overclock or not overclock at all, then no.

Yep, I'm gonna try to OC everything (including my monitor).

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No, it's main purposes are to provide better aesthetics for your pc, and better over clocks which only increase performance by a few frames. But if you want a sweet looking pc, those marginally higher scores in benchmarks, and have the money to burn, sure go for it.

Edit: thought this was for custom water cooling, if it was for and AIO cooler it's way cheaper and is less bulky than the huge nhd14. However that being said, it won't cool that much better than the d14/d15.

What's the difference? I haven't looked into water-cooling until now.  

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What's the difference? I haven't looked into water-cooling until now.

All in One or a closed looped cooler comes with everything you need(pump, radiator, fan, block and reservoir) all pre-assembled leaving you only to install it in your PC? A custom loop requires you to buy all the parts separately or in a kit, leaving you to assemble all the parts together. a AIO will only usually cool the cpu with a smaller radiator size, while a custom loop will allow the cooling of both the cpu and gpu with a bigger or more radiators for better cooling. This along with the harder assembly can cost hundreds of dollars, while a AIO will only usually cost a 100ish dollars, but with an easier install, but poorer performance.

Edit: just watch Jay's video, my explanation here is kinda poorly written since I have a headache and it's really late

MSI GT70 2OC- CPU: Intel i7 4700MQ @2.40GHz, Memory: 16GB DDR3, GPU: Nvidia GTX 770m, SSD: Adata SP600 256GB, HDD: HGST Travelstar 7k1000 1TB

[spoiler=The Story of Lord Gaben(Warning:Lots of reading or use the audio link)]"Once upon a time there was a young man called ancient Lord Gaben Newell. The young man saw that the gamers of this world were in need of protection, and so he begun a quest to better the PC gaming world for all of us. On his first day, Gabe created the half life, a wonderful game made by a wonderful lord. The peasants cried. "Why do you cry, little peasant?" the lord bequeathed. "The nearest store to my house is too far Gaben, please find us a way to get the games without the trek." said the peasant. And so on his second day, Gabe created the steam, at first the peasants hated this shit, but at least the games could downloaded rather than venturing into the cold world, and purchased. Gabe was happy, but when he looked at the peasants, they cried. "Why do you cry little peasant?" the lord bequeathed. "We need more games Prince Gaben, please convince the other knights of gaming to join your cause." said the peasant. And so on his third say, Gabe invented more games, dozens, hundreds, thousands of publishers. More games than a person could play in a lifetime. But the peasants still cried. "Why do you cry little peasant?" The lord bequeathed. "There are too many games and we are too poor, Baron Von Gaben, we need more affordable options for gaming." said the peasant. And so on the fourth day, Gabe invented sales, a wondrous new invention, never done anywhere, in which you buy something for like five bucks. In fact, sometimes, it's like two bucks or three bucks, it's pretty crazy. But oh how the peasants did cry. "Why do you cry little peasant? The lord bequeathed."We are still so poor, Count Gaben, we need games that are free. Games that can let anyone into their world, without costing them a penny." said the peasant. And so on his fifth Gabe invented Free to Play, a dangerous yet monumental idea, that he saw some Koreans do, and figured "Eh What the hell, fuckin eh, we're America, ain't nobody gonna have the best free games, but us." That would allow gamers to play for free. This time Gabe was sure the peasants were happy. He not only created a form DRM peasants wouldn't give a shit about, but also a service, that no other knight in the land could stand against. But when Gabe looked at the peasants, when Gabe looked at the peasants, they were no longer poor, they were fat and greedy. They called themselves glorious, and made fun of all the other peasant gamers of this world because their lord had treated them so well. Gabe met with these people to see if they were in fact happy, but they weren't. "Where is Half Life 3? It's been too long. What have you been doing? Taking mods and turning them into games? Pushing sales for money? FUUUCKK YOOUU GABE!!" Gabe cried a single tear. "I can't give you games that are no finished peasants." said the Lord. "WHY NOT?" yelled the peasants. "Give us the Games that are not finished. MORE. MORE. MORE." yelled the peasants. A thunderbolt struck, and Gabe went home to sleep. Gabe new that tomorrow, would not just be the sixth day, it would be the last day. And so on his sixth and final day, Gabe invented EARLY ACESSSSS!! I FUCKING HATE EARLY ACESS!!!!" 

-Bruce Willakers Source and Audio Version

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All in One or a closed looped cooler comes with everything you need(pump, radiator, fan, block and reservoir) all pre-assembled leaving you only to install it in your PC? A custom loop requires you to buy all the parts separately or in a kit, leaving you to assemble all the parts together. a AIO will only usually cool the cpu with a smaller radiator size, while a custom loop will allow the cooling of both the cpu and gpu with a bigger or more radiators for better cooling. This along with the harder assembly can cost hundreds of dollars, while a AIO will only usually cost a 100ish dollars, but with an easier install, but poorer performance.

Edit: just watch the video, my explanation here is kinda poorly written since I have a headache and it's really late

Sound kinda fun, I probably won't have the extra money though. :(
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If money is a concern, get a AIO first, then upgrade to custom loop afterward.

You dont need to get everything in 1 go.

Great! So I could cool my CPU once I build the PC but then in a year I could cool my GPU?
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Yeah. Get a AIO for the CPU first, then once you got the money, go for a full custom loop.

That will give you the best look and overall performance for your money.

Ok, I'll be considering that. :D
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Ok, I'll be considering that. :D

Since you got a 295X2 and i5-4690K, so would I recommend seeing what performene you are getting before going full custom.

It might be more worth it to get better parts first, as that will probally give you more performance gain then going full custom will.

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Since you got a 295X2 and i5-4690K, so would I recommend seeing what performene you are getting before going full custom.

It might be more worth it to get better parts first, as that will probally give you more performance gain then going full custom will.

I'm thinking of switching the GPU to two 8GB R9-290x's in Crossfire for maximum performance in higher resolutions (1440p, 2160p etcetera). If you want to comment on any of the parts in that PC look in my previous topics. :D
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I'm thinking of switching the GPU to two 8GB R9-290x's in Crossfire for maximum performance in higher resolutions (1440p, 2160p etcetera). If you want to comment on any of the parts in that PC look in my previous topics. :D

Is not the 295X2 already the same as 290X in crossfire?

 

What you can change right away is the CPU cooler. I would recommend Kraken X61 http://pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-cpu-cooler-rlkrx6101

The rest is fine for a gaming build.

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All in One or a closed looped cooler comes with everything you need(pump, radiator, fan, block and reservoir) all pre-assembled leaving you only to install it in your PC? A custom loop requires you to buy all the parts separately or in a kit, leaving you to assemble all the parts together. a AIO will only usually cool the cpu with a smaller radiator size, while a custom loop will allow the cooling of both the cpu and gpu with a bigger or more radiators for better cooling. This along with the harder assembly can cost hundreds of dollars, while a AIO will only usually cost a 100ish dollars, but with an easier install, but poorer performance.

Edit: just watch Jay's video, my explanation here is kinda poorly written since I have a headache and it's really late

lol love quoting jay in a linus forum :') nice one

I really want to build an oil-immersed PC  ^_^

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lol love quoting jay in a linus forum :') nice one

I forgot about the video but the post before me had it.

MSI GT70 2OC- CPU: Intel i7 4700MQ @2.40GHz, Memory: 16GB DDR3, GPU: Nvidia GTX 770m, SSD: Adata SP600 256GB, HDD: HGST Travelstar 7k1000 1TB

[spoiler=The Story of Lord Gaben(Warning:Lots of reading or use the audio link)]"Once upon a time there was a young man called ancient Lord Gaben Newell. The young man saw that the gamers of this world were in need of protection, and so he begun a quest to better the PC gaming world for all of us. On his first day, Gabe created the half life, a wonderful game made by a wonderful lord. The peasants cried. "Why do you cry, little peasant?" the lord bequeathed. "The nearest store to my house is too far Gaben, please find us a way to get the games without the trek." said the peasant. And so on his second day, Gabe created the steam, at first the peasants hated this shit, but at least the games could downloaded rather than venturing into the cold world, and purchased. Gabe was happy, but when he looked at the peasants, they cried. "Why do you cry little peasant?" the lord bequeathed. "We need more games Prince Gaben, please convince the other knights of gaming to join your cause." said the peasant. And so on his third say, Gabe invented more games, dozens, hundreds, thousands of publishers. More games than a person could play in a lifetime. But the peasants still cried. "Why do you cry little peasant?" The lord bequeathed. "There are too many games and we are too poor, Baron Von Gaben, we need more affordable options for gaming." said the peasant. And so on the fourth day, Gabe invented sales, a wondrous new invention, never done anywhere, in which you buy something for like five bucks. In fact, sometimes, it's like two bucks or three bucks, it's pretty crazy. But oh how the peasants did cry. "Why do you cry little peasant? The lord bequeathed."We are still so poor, Count Gaben, we need games that are free. Games that can let anyone into their world, without costing them a penny." said the peasant. And so on his fifth Gabe invented Free to Play, a dangerous yet monumental idea, that he saw some Koreans do, and figured "Eh What the hell, fuckin eh, we're America, ain't nobody gonna have the best free games, but us." That would allow gamers to play for free. This time Gabe was sure the peasants were happy. He not only created a form DRM peasants wouldn't give a shit about, but also a service, that no other knight in the land could stand against. But when Gabe looked at the peasants, when Gabe looked at the peasants, they were no longer poor, they were fat and greedy. They called themselves glorious, and made fun of all the other peasant gamers of this world because their lord had treated them so well. Gabe met with these people to see if they were in fact happy, but they weren't. "Where is Half Life 3? It's been too long. What have you been doing? Taking mods and turning them into games? Pushing sales for money? FUUUCKK YOOUU GABE!!" Gabe cried a single tear. "I can't give you games that are no finished peasants." said the Lord. "WHY NOT?" yelled the peasants. "Give us the Games that are not finished. MORE. MORE. MORE." yelled the peasants. A thunderbolt struck, and Gabe went home to sleep. Gabe new that tomorrow, would not just be the sixth day, it would be the last day. And so on his sixth and final day, Gabe invented EARLY ACESSSSS!! I FUCKING HATE EARLY ACESS!!!!" 

-Bruce Willakers Source and Audio Version

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