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GTX 660 vs 1060 for video editing

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I've recently upgraded most of my system. Currently I have a ryzen 2700x, 16gb 3000mhz ram and a tiny gtx 660.

 

I don't game that much and for the games I do play the 660 is doing a great job.

But I keep thinking if an upgrade to a 1060 would better my video editing experience? After looking around the internet I've found in different comparisons, that the GPU doesn't affect video editing much. But these tests doesn't iclude graphic cards as old as mine.

 

I don't use many effects and don't colorgrade much.

EDIT: I use Premiere Pro

 

So would it help to upgrade? 

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this completely depends on what file format you render videos at and what settings

i have a 1060 6gb in my build i was using a gt 710 and because of the format i used the rendering times went from a few hours to 30-40 mins because i used a curtain codec

if you know by heart what program you use and what render settings i could suggest whether to upgrade or not

 

i use sony vegas pro 16 and rendering options specific for my gpu with an mp4 file format 

 

ryzen will do a great job at rendering over my old core 2 duo so if you had that i would highly recommend an upgrade but because you have such a good ryzen chip i would need to know more about your rendering formats to be able to see if its worth upgrading

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Which video editing software you use? they all use hardware differently.

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1 minute ago, stef4234 said:

@jevjev @Princess CadenceI use premiere pro, and I manly export to .mp4 with h.264

Well looking at this chart:

workstation-gpu-benchmark_adobe-premiere

 

We can have an idea that a GTX 1060 6gb is not distant from the top tier alternatives, not present on this chart but its performance stays between a 580 and a Vega64 as Adobe handles CUDA way better than OpenCL, making it a great value product, the GTX 660 is very outdated by now and CUDA Cores changes each architecture, making them more power efficient and to put it simple "better".

 

I think that if you notice your 660 VRAM is getting max out that could be a great indication to upgrade and like we see even the 1060 would be a great alternative

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@Princess Cadence I did a quick test playing through an edit and exporting it. I don't reallt care for exporting times, but more about performance while editing.

 

Here is how it looks while playing through the edit:

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And here while exporting:

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During playback it doesn't even use 50% of the memory, but the core and memory clock is maxing out, would this also be an indication to upgrade?

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Usually previews and 'live editng' and what not is more CPU intensive, the GPU helps more at exporting and rendering. If you feel the system is responsive enough as is there is no need to change any thing.

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@Princess Cadence It doesn't feel responsive, and I'm starting to think it's more of a harddrive problem, all my files are on an old barracuda 5400rpm drive. That was actually my first assumption, but I think I got a bid blinded by a great black friday offer on a 1060, and a GPU is a bit more exciting than a harddrive ?

 

But thanks for the qucik response!

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1 minute ago, stef4234 said:

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It certainly is! but hey black friday has good deals on HDDs and even SSDs, if your current Seagate really is old and only 5400rpm no wonder it could become a bottleneck, maybe if you find something good on a high capacity SSD like for instance:

 

https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-PLUS-Solid-State-Drive/dp/B07D998212

 

125 bucks for a whole 1TB of SSD? that'd be blazing fast.

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Would make scrubbing better and editing better to have a better card. Along with the media’s storage. 

 

The rest will depend on the output codec. 

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6 hours ago, stef4234 said:

I've recently upgraded most of my system. Currently I have a ryzen 2700x, 16gb 3000mhz ram and a tiny gtx 660.

 

I don't game that much and for the games I do play the 660 is doing a great job.

But I keep thinking if an upgrade to a 1060 would better my video editing experience? After looking around the internet I've found in different comparisons, that the GPU doesn't affect video editing much. But these tests doesn't iclude graphic cards as old as mine.

 

I don't use many effects and don't colorgrade much.

EDIT: I use Premiere Pro

 

So would it help to upgrade? 

Guys with rendering and video apps the reason the pro Titan or Quadro are soo expensive is because of how much VRAM they have in it.  A 44GB quadro is 9k a 14GB quadro is like 2 thousand ,, same clocks... same tech, just less VRAM ,, Just like why you think the Ti cards are soo expensive, not much different then a regular except they boast 11GB of VRAM instead of 8 and that is a nice difference in price just like the quadro example I gave.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Little update...

 

I've bought a new SSD and a gtx 1070 ti. They've both increased my productivity but more importantly made working with Premiere Pro more stable. It's still premiere and will allways have it flaws. But I'm no longer crashing while playing back footage with captions.

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