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So I’m building a PC for 2000ish USD (can go a bit above). I dont need OS, peripherals or monitors. I asked this a couple months ago but waited until

now like people told me to. Has anything come out? Should I wait for anything? Can anyone please make a PCPP list? Thanks

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Plenty of people can make a PPP list (including you).

  • What games do you play
  • what resolution/refresh rate
  • do you do anything besides game
  • do you want RGB
  • do you have brand preferences
  • any other random stuff?

My Build, v2.1 --- CPU: i7-8700K @ 5.2GHz/1.288v || MoBo: Asus ROG STRIX Z390-E Gaming || RAM: 4x4GB G.SKILL Ripjaws 4 2666 14-14-14-33 || Cooler: Custom Loop || GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC Black, on water || PSU: EVGA G2 850W || Case: Corsair 450D || SSD: 850 Evo 250GB, Intel 660p 2TB || Storage: WD Blue 2TB || G502 & Glorious PCGR Fully Custom 80% Keyboard || MX34VQ, PG278Q, PB278Q

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Nothing new really worth buying has come out in the past few months. RTX launched, but without RTX, and the 9th gen Intel chips have no hyper-threading, so we'll have to wait and see about performance. The only new-ish thing worth buying at this point would be Ryzen 2. 

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AMD Ryzen 7 5800X • Noctua NH-D15 • MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk • 2x8GB G.skill Trident Z Neo 3600MHz CL16 • MSI VENTUS 3X GeForce RTX 3070 OC • Samsung 970 Evo 1TB • Samsung 860 Evo 1TB • Cosair iCUE 465X RGB • Corsair RMx 750W (White)

 

Peripherals/Other:

ASUS VG27AQ • G PRO K/DA • G502 Hero K/DA • G733 K/DA • G840 K/DA • Oculus Quest 2 • Nintendo Switch (Rev. 2)

 

Laptop (Dell XPS 13):

Intel Core i7-1195G7 • Intel Iris Xe Graphics • 16GB LPDDR4x 4267MHz • 512GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD • 13.4" OLED 3.5K InfinityEdge Display (3456x2160, 400nit, touch). 

 

Got any questions about my system or peripherals? Feel free to tag me (@bellabichon) and I'll be happy to give you my two cents. 

 

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2 minutes ago, bellabichon said:

Nothing new really worth buying has come out in the past few months. RTX launched, but without RTX, and the 9th gen Intel chips have no hyper-threading, so we'll have to wait and see about performance. The only new-ish thing worth buying at this point would be Ryzen 2. 

Honestly if they have been waiting this long might as well buy. I mean can't wait forever. 

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24 minutes ago, OreoPandas said:

So I’m building a PC for 2000ish USD (can go a bit above). I dont need OS, peripherals or monitors. I asked this a couple months ago but waited until

now like people told me to. Has anything come out? Should I wait for anything? Can anyone please make a PCPP list? Thanks

If you want the best then a CPU and GPU will eat up 95% of that budget.  Can you give a little more guidance?

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Lots of new tech worth buying.

 

The new i7-9700K & i9-9900K use a solder thermal interface material (TIM) and should therefore have more efficient cooling and thus better overclocking potential. 

 

The new i7-9700K has eight non-hyperthreaded cores and higher clocks than the six hyperthreaded core i7-8700K. As a result it has slightly better stock performance.

 

While many are saying the RTX 2080 is not worth the price premium over the GTX 1080 Ti, that is only true at lower resolutions. If one plans to game at QHD or UHD resolutions the RTX 2080 does have notably better performance.

 

If you are gaming, consider a build along the following lines.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor  ($419.99 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME Z390-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($189.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($129.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($154.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($58.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card  ($789.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P350X (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($94.00 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2002.62
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-02 13:17 EDT-0400

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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4 minutes ago, brob said:

Lots of new tech worth buying.

 

The new i7-9700K & i9-9900K use a solder thermal interface material (TIM) and should therefore have more efficient cooling and thus better overclocking potential. 

 

The new i7-9700K has eight non-hyperthreaded cores and higher clocks than the six hyperthreaded core i7-8700K. As a result it has slightly better stock performance.

 

While many are saying the RTX 2080 is not worth the price premium over the GTX 1080 Ti, that is only true at lower resolutions. If one plans to game at QHD or UHD resolutions the RTX 2080 does have notably better performance.

 

If you are gaming, consider a build along the following lines.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor  ($419.99 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME Z390-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($189.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($129.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($154.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($58.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card  ($789.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P350X (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($94.00 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2002.62
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-02 13:17 EDT-0400

That's actually inccorect. They are soldered but they are also thicker making them very much hotter than the 8700k. Alot of people were getting something like 90 degrees at stock with the 9900k. 

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1 minute ago, Brooksie359 said:

That's actually inccorect. They are soldered but they are also thicker making them very much hotter than the 8700k. Alot of people were getting something like 90 degrees at stock with the 9900k. 

Well, it also has 33% more cores, so it's not really comparable. The solder, even though the silicon and solder are thicker than ideal, is still better than the paste, but a bit worse than LM. Intel is just pushing it to the limit, no normal thermal solution will keep these chips in good temps.

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GPU: Gigabyte GTX 1070 Ti G1 Gaming @2GHz | Storage: Samsung 850 Evo 250GB + Seagate Barracuda 2TB  | PSU: Corsair TX550M | Monitor: LG 29UM69G

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Just now, Brooksie359 said:

That's actually inccorect. They are soldered but they are also thicker making them very much hotter than the 8700k. Alot of people were getting something like 90 degrees at stock with the 9900k. 

 

You are going to have to explain this. As far as I know there is no stock cooler for the i9-9900K.

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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1 minute ago, brob said:

 

You are going to have to explain this. As far as I know there is no stock cooler for the i9-9900K.

Stock configuration = No overclock.

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Keyboard: Corsair K70 LUX MX Red | Mouse: Corsair M65 Pro RGB | Case: Corsair Carbide 400C | Headphone: Beyerdynamic DT-770 Pro | Microphone: Blusmart Lapel

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Just now, Vasllo said:

Stock configuration = No overclock.

Well if I put a cheap cooler on a K cpu, should I expect anything else under load?

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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11 minutes ago, brob said:

Lots of new tech worth buying.

 

The new i7-9700K & i9-9900K use a solder thermal interface material (TIM) and should therefore have more efficient cooling and thus better overclocking potential. 

 

The new i7-9700K has eight non-hyperthreaded cores and higher clocks than the six hyperthreaded core i7-8700K. As a result it has slightly better stock performance.

 

While many are saying the RTX 2080 is not worth the price premium over the GTX 1080 Ti, that is only true at lower resolutions. If one plans to game at QHD or UHD resolutions the RTX 2080 does have notably better performance.

 

If you are gaming, consider a build along the following lines.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor  ($419.99 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME Z390-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($189.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($129.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($154.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($58.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card  ($789.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P350X (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($94.00 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2002.62
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-02 13:17 EDT-0400

I don't see any considerable difference in any resolution, nor a considerable difference between the % performance difference from 1080p or 1440p to 4k, the margin is rather stable: https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3365-nvidia-rtx-2080-founders-edition-review-benchmarks-vs-gtx-1080-ti

 

It just edges out the 1080 Ti in most scenarios, but nothing considerable, and VRAM might be an issue, not sure though.

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1 minute ago, brob said:

Well if I put a cheap cooler on a K cpu, should I expect anything else under load?

You're not getting it, he said the 9900k runs at 90C in stock configuration, he didn't mention the cooler at any point. It wouldn't even turbo with a Intel stock cooler, and still run into the 100s.

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GPU: Gigabyte GTX 1070 Ti G1 Gaming @2GHz | Storage: Samsung 850 Evo 250GB + Seagate Barracuda 2TB  | PSU: Corsair TX550M | Monitor: LG 29UM69G

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4 minutes ago, Vasllo said:

Well, it also has 33% more cores, so it's not really comparable. The solder, even though the silicon and solder are thicker than ideal, is still better than the paste, but a bit worse than LM. Intel is just pushing it to the limit, no normal thermal solution will keep these chips in good temps.

Like I said the cpus run hot af. They won't overclock better than the 9700k and what they said was simply inccorect. If they had a thinner die and used the thermal paste they had been using it likely would have been not much more heatwise especially when you take into account the increased die surface area for better hear dissipation. 

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ATthat price, I’m gonna have to vote against the 9700K and for the 8700K, since it’s $50+ off that price. Other than that, do whatever (also recommend the H100i pro over the V2)

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Audio --- Headphones: Massdrop x Sennheiser HD 6XX || Amp: Schiit Audio Magni 3 || DAC: Schiit Audio Modi 3 || Mic: Blue Yeti

 

[Under Construction]

 

My Truck --- 2002 F-350 7.3 Powerstroke || 6-speed

My Car --- 2006 Mustang GT || 5-speed || BBK LTs, O/R X, MBRP Cat-back || BBK Lowering Springs, LCAs || 2007 GT500 wheels w/ 245s/285s

 

The Experiment --- CPU: i5-3570K @ 4.0 GHz || MoBo: Asus P8Z77-V LK || RAM: 16GB Corsair 1600 4x4 || Cooler: CM Hyper 212 Evo || GPUs: Asus GTX 750 Ti, || PSU: Corsair TX750M Gold || Case: Thermaltake Core G21 TG || SSD: 840 Pro 128GB || HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB

 

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3 minutes ago, brob said:

Well if I put a cheap cooler on a K cpu, should I expect anything else under load?

They need a 280mm liquid cooler just to keep it under control at stock. That is not the same as you need a decent cooler. Someone puts a 240mm cooler which is quite expensive and it still will run super hot.

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1 minute ago, Brooksie359 said:

Like I said the cpus run hot af. They won't overclock better than the 9700k and what they said was simply inccorect. If they had a thinner die and used the thermal paste they had been using it likely would have been not much more heatwise especially when you take into account the increased die surface area for better hear dissipation. 

Possibly, yes, but it would run hotter, probably about 5C, I would guess, from what I've seen from Hardware Unboxed and Gamers Nexus. Still, Intel is not stupid, they stick to paste for years, they soldered it because it's necessary, this 5C difference is the headroom they needed.

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GPU: Gigabyte GTX 1070 Ti G1 Gaming @2GHz | Storage: Samsung 850 Evo 250GB + Seagate Barracuda 2TB  | PSU: Corsair TX550M | Monitor: LG 29UM69G

Keyboard: Corsair K70 LUX MX Red | Mouse: Corsair M65 Pro RGB | Case: Corsair Carbide 400C | Headphone: Beyerdynamic DT-770 Pro | Microphone: Blusmart Lapel

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9 minutes ago, brob said:

 

You are going to have to explain this. As far as I know there is no stock cooler for the i9-9900K.

These are on reviews using usually something around a 240mm cooler or better. Across the board they were getting into the 90s at stock clocks. 

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1 minute ago, Vasllo said:

Possibly, yes, but it would run hotter, probably about 5C, I would guess, from what I've seen from Hardware Unboxed and Gamers Nexus. Still, Intel is not stupid, they stick to paste for years, they soldered it because it's necessary, this 5C difference is the headroom they needed.

My main point was the solder isn't really more efficient at least not enough to matter because the cpu still runs hotter than the 8700k and won't be getting any boost in overclocking headroom due to thermals. I would actually guess that because the 9700k is an imperfect die and couldn't become a 9900k it would actually be a worse overclocker. 

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3 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

My main point was the solder isn't really more efficient at least not enough to matter because the cpu still runs hotter than the 8700k and won't be getting any boost in overclocking headroom due to thermals. I would actually guess that because the 9700k is an imperfect die and couldn't become a 9900k it would actually be a worse overclocker. 

You might want to check this: https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3378-intel-9900k-cpu-review-solder-vs-paste-delid-gaming-benchmarks-vs-2700x/page-2

And the 9700k might not be binned at all, just have HT disabled and that's it, the rest is just silicon lottery.

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There is no doubt that Coffee Lake i7 need better cooling given ~33% more cores. The reports I've seen of i7-9700K oc results do suggest slightly better clocks than the i7-8700K. One can debate whether the better performance is worth the premium price. Personally I think it is unless budget is tight.

 

As to RTX performance at higher resolutions, there seems to be quite a variance in the results of various reviews. 

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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5 minutes ago, brob said:

There is no doubt that Coffee Lake i7 need better cooling given ~33% more cores. The reports I've seen of i7-9700K oc results do suggest slightly better clocks than the i7-8700K. One can debate whether the better performance is worth the premium price. Personally I think it is unless budget is tight.

 

As to RTX performance at higher resolutions, there seems to be quite a variance in the results of various reviews. 

Really? Because I was watch reviews and found the opposite to be true. I was watching der8auer and he was saying he was having a harder time overclocking these chips and needed to some crazy delids to get them to run a decent overclock. Not only that some of them simply refused to go to 5ghz. I honestly think the 9700k is just a bad cpu. The 8700k seems like the better buy 100%. 

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