$2000 PC

[Brooksie359]

12 minutes ago, Vasllo said:

You might want to check this: https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3378-intel-9900k-cpu-review-solder-vs-paste-delid-gaming-benchmarks-vs-2700x/page-2

And the 9700k might not be binned at all, just have HT disabled and that's it, the rest is just silicon lottery.

Well that proves my point. Not enough of a difference to matter. Still run hot and are harder to overclock because of crap thermals. 

[brob]

6 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

Really? Because I was watch reviews and found the opposite to be true. I was watching der8auer and he was saying he was having a harder time overclocking these chips and needed to some crazy delids to get them to run a decent overclock. Not only that some of them simply refused to go to 5ghz. I honestly think the 9700k is just a bad cpu. The 8700k seems like the better buy 100%. 

 

I read, not watch.  Most of the reviews I've read report i7-9700K oc between 5.1GHz and 5.3GHz without anything more than good cooling.

 

There are very few bad cpu and I would not place any of the Coffee Lake refresh in that category. If one wants the performance, one has to be willing to pay the premium. Not to say that a lower performing cpu might not be a better value. But "value" is not the same "best".

[Zeorth]

1 hour ago, Cereal5 said:

Plenty of people can make a PPP list (including you).

• What games do you play
• what resolution/refresh rate
• do you do anything besides game
• do you want RGB
• do you have brand preferences
• any other random stuff?

 

1 hour ago, brob said:

What usage?

Sorry for the late reply but,

Gaming

Stuff like WOT, League, Witcher 3, Battlefield 1, 5, COD, GTA etc.

1080p 144Hz x2

Just everyday stuff

White theme with RGB would be nice

Brands that are reputable like corsair, asus, etc are good.

Nope

[Zeorth]

53 minutes ago, nick name said:

If you want the best then a CPU and GPU will eat up 95% of that budget.  Can you give a little more guidance?

Just answered the common questions.

[Cereal5]

7 minutes ago, OreoPandas said:

Just answered the common questions.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  ($369.89 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i PRO 75.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Asus - Prime Z370-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($159.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($86.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($42.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card  ($514.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair - Crystal 460X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($75.88 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1630.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-02 14:25 EDT-0400

 

No need to spend 2k for 1080p gaming. Even what I have listed is overkill. You can step down the CPU and GPU if you want to save a buck, or step up the GPU if you plan on upping the resolution at any point (that said the 1080 is an excellent 1440p card).

[Brooksie359]

17 minutes ago, brob said:

 

I read, not watch.  Most of the reviews I've read report i7-9700K oc between 5.1GHz and 5.3GHz without anything more than good cooling.

 

There are very few bad cpu and I would not place any of the Coffee Lake refresh in that category. If one wants the performance, one has to be willing to pay the premium. Not to say that a lower performing cpu might not be a better value. But "value" is not the same "best".

I would trust der8ure over anyone tbh when it comes to overclocking. These things don't overclock that well. 

[Vasllo]

2 hours ago, Brooksie359 said:

Well that proves my point. Not enough of a difference to matter. Still run hot and are harder to overclock because of crap thermals. 

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3381-intel-i9-9900k-delid-liquid-metal-5-4ghz-overclock

 

Yes, it is capped by thermals, but a 5C difference does matter, and because of the thicker die, even LM drops just 5C further compared to the solder. What I wanted to point out is that the temps you were mentioning were off by a good margin, it actually runs alright stock, just 37ΔC, and starts to get into the 90C range at 5GHz, not stock, as you mentioned. The problem is not just thermals, the chip just pulls too much power, Intel really pushed past the limit, a 95w tdp (I know, I know) chip pulling 260w overclocked is ridiculous, my OC'd i7 2600k only gets close to half that in Prime95. These CPUs are not great, but not that bad either.

[Brooksie359]

18 minutes ago, Vasllo said:

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3381-intel-i9-9900k-delid-liquid-metal-5-4ghz-overclock

 

Yes, it is capped by thermals, but a 5C difference does matter, and because of the thicker die, even LM drops just 5C further compared to the solder. What I wanted to point out is that the temps you were mentioning were off by a good margin, it actually runs alright stock, just 37ΔC, and starts to get into the 90C range at 5GHz, not stock, as you mentioned. The problem is not just thermals, the chip just pulls too much power, Intel really pushed past the limit, a 95w tdp (I know, I know) chip pulling 260w overclocked is ridiculous, my OC'd i7 2600k only gets close to half that in Prime95. These CPUs are not great, but not that bad either.

No they are bad. 

[Vasllo]

1 minute ago, Brooksie359 said:

No they are bad. 

Well, the i9 9900k has no competitor and has the best mainstream platform performance ever, and possibly the best performance in games period, so your affirmative is quite subjective and biased tbh, the issues they have doesn't make them bad CPUs.

[Brooksie359]

1 minute ago, Vasllo said:

Well, the i9 9900k has no competitor and has the best mainstream platform performance ever, and possibly the best performance in games period, so your affirmative is quite subjective and biased tbh, the issues they have doesn't make them bad CPUs.

Yes it does make them bad cpus.