New AMD build

[asparuh]

Hello. Because I am very hesitant about my choice of a new system.  I currently own Intel  I5-4460  and Asus  HD7870-DC2TG-2GD5-V2 GPU. Because I'm very interested of the system's  with low power consumption,  can I ask you something?  In your opinion, which option is better :

Ryzen 2600 with  MSI GTX 1070 6 GB Gaming X version    or    Ryzen  2600x with MSI GTX 1060 6 GB Gaming X .

 

If we look at the current processor and video card, which  new system is  good and has low power consumption  compared to the current one ?

[Jurrunio]

1. why is power draw such a concern?

 

2. what will you do with the system?

 

2 minutes ago, asparuh said:

GTX 1070 6 GB

never existed

[Eastman51]

2 minutes ago, asparuh said:

Hello. Because I am very hesitant about my choice of a new system.  I currently own Intel  I5-4460  and Asus  HD7870-DC2TG-2GD5-V2 GPU. Because I'm very interested of the system's  with low power consumption,  can I ask you something?  In your opinion, which option is better :

Ryzen 2600 with  MSI GTX 1070 6 GB Gaming X version    or    Ryzen  2600x with MSI GTX 1060 6 GB Gaming X .

 

If we look at the current processor and video card, which  new system is  good and has low power consumption  compared to the current one ?

Is there a particular reason you want lower power consumption?

 

As for the pairs you are looking at, they are both fine. However, I run a 2600x with a 1070 and the GPU is slightly bottleknecked by the CPU, so a 1060 with the 2600x will be a bit worse in that department.

[suchamoneypit]

Unless your gaming for 8 hours a day 365 days a year the difference in your price for electricity will likely be pennies per week between hardware. A medium grade PC running at 100% load for 24 hours will still only use like $1 of electricity depending on your rates.  And when your gaming you usually aren't at 100% load across all hardware. By specifically choosing low power parts, that might go down to like $0.80 a day. If you aren't running it at 100% load 24/7 you can see how the difference quickly goes down to pennies.

[nick name]

3 minutes ago, Eastman51 said:

Is there a particular reason you want lower power consumption?

 

As for the pairs you are looking at, they are both fine. However, I run a 2600x with a 1070 and the GPU is slightly bottleknecked by the CPU, so a 1060 with the 2600x will be a bit worse in that department.

I'm not sure you said what you intended here.  Are you saying the 2600X holds the 1070 back?  And if so then buying a weaker GPU would make sense.  Or are you saying the 2600X can handle a better card than a 1070 so a 1060 wouldn't make sense.  

[nick name]

9 minutes ago, asparuh said:

Hello. Because I am very hesitant about my choice of a new system.  I currently own Intel  I5-4460  and Asus  HD7870-DC2TG-2GD5-V2 GPU. Because I'm very interested of the system's  with low power consumption,  can I ask you something?  In your opinion, which option is better :

Ryzen 2600 with  MSI GTX 1070 6 GB Gaming X version    or    Ryzen  2600x with MSI GTX 1060 6 GB Gaming X .

 

If we look at the current processor and video card, which  new system is  good and has low power consumption  compared to the current one ?

You can buy the 2600X and run it like a 2600 at times and then use all of its power the rest of the time.  

[SupaKomputa]

yes the cpu won't matter much to boost fps, even if you use 2600x.

the raw power of 1070 is just much higher, and consume more electricity, than 1060.

so to say that it will even out if you use higher cpu with 1060 is just not valid.

[Eastman51]

6 minutes ago, nick name said:

I'm not sure you said what you intended here.  Are you saying the 2600X holds the 1070 back?  And if so then buying a weaker GPU would make sense.  Or are you saying the 2600X can handle a better card than a 1070 so a 1060 wouldn't make sense.  

2600x holds back the 1070 a tad bit. 2600x with 1060 would bottlekneck less. 

 

I tried to say that the bottlekneck of a 1070 paired with a 2600 would be much higher than the bottlekneck that you would get with a 1070 and a 2600x. So, getting a 1070 with the 2600 would be a bad idea.

 

For  example:

In Shadow of the Tomb Raider (Ultra settings, v-sync 60Hz, 1080p) with the 2600x and 1070 (these are my results) - 30% CPU usage, 4-6% GPU usage

So, theoretically, same game and settings with 2600 and 1070 (my educated guess) - 50-60% CPU usage, 4-6% GPU usage

Vs

same game and settings with 2600x and 1060 (another educated guess) - 10-20% CPU usage, 10% GPU usage

[AvogadrosDog]

8 hours ago, Eastman51 said:

2600x holds back the 1070 a tad bit. 2600x with 1060 would bottlekneck less. 

 

I tried to say that the bottlekneck of a 1070 paired with a 2600 would be much higher than the bottlekneck that you would get with a 1070 and a 2600x. So, getting a 1070 with the 2600 would be a bad idea.

 

For  example:

In Shadow of the Tomb Raider (Ultra settings, v-sync 60Hz, 1080p) with the 2600x and 1070 (these are my results) - 30% CPU usage, 4-6% GPU usage

So, theoretically, same game and settings with 2600 and 1070 (my educated guess) - 50-60% CPU usage, 4-6% GPU usage

Vs

same game and settings with 2600x and 1060 (another educated guess) - 10-20% CPU usage, 10% GPU usage

But the 2600 and 2600X are essentially the same chip? You can OC the 2600 as far as you can with the 2600X so there isn't really a difference. 

 

Also, how is 30% CPU usage even a bottleneck?

[Eastman51]

2 minutes ago, xandredu said:

But the 2600 and 2600X are essentially the same chip? You can OC the 2600 as far as you can with the 2600X so there isn't really a difference. 

 

Also, how is 30% CPU usage even a bottleneck?

I'm not talking about OC with the 2600, purely stock. I'm not sure you can OC the 2600 to the level of an OC 2600x, that sounds weird. Do you mean OC the 2600 to be level with 2600x?

 

It's not really a bottlekneck in Tomb Raider. However, the usage gap gets worse in other games, though they are more CPU bound. 

Assassin's Creed Odyssey maxes the 2600x before the 1070, for example

[AvogadrosDog]

8 hours ago, Eastman51 said:

I'm not talking about OC with the 2600, purely stock. I'm not sure you can OC the 2600 to the level of an OC 2600x, that sounds weird. Do you mean OC the 2600 to be level with 2600x?

 

It's not really a bottlekneck in Tomb Raider. However, the usage gap gets worse in other games, though they are more CPU bound. 

Assassin's Creed Odyssey maxes the 2600x before the 1070, for example

2600X is just a higher binned 2600 that's one of the reasons the 2600 is arguably the best value chip because it's cheaper than the 2600X and you can still overclock it as far as a 2600X whilst a 2600X has very little OC headroom. In general you'd get a 2600 if you plan to OC or a 2600X if you don't. So CPU-wise it shouldn't make that much of a difference between the two.

 

With regards to bottleneck, that depends on the game like you've shown and what you're running it at. 1080p gaming shows a lot more of the CPU bottlenecking the GPU whilst at 1440p the game becomes less reliant on the CPU and moreso on the GPU so you notice less bottleneck. I also don't know how AC: Odyssey is but I remember people saying that AC: Origins wasn't well optimised for PC gaming so it's not very representative. But I can't speak for myself so I'll leave it at that. 

 

My advice would be to get a 2600 with a GTX 1070 (for that price range maybe go for a 1070 Ti but depends on budget, country and etc.) and OC the 2600 to 4.0/4.1 GHz which is pretty much on-par with the performance you'll get from a 2600X.