What CPU to buy?

[Ayiumo1]

Hello,

i have a problem about choosing my new cpu,

could you help me resolve it?

about that, AMD or Intel?

intel is expensive as hell.. an i7 costs about 450 euros and im not willing to take an i5 that still cost like 320 euros.. i would rather spend the extra 80 to get the 7..

i know its great but mannn... its a lot..

thats why i was thinking about ryzen..

the ryzen 7 1800x (first gen) costs like 264 euros.. it comes without a heatsink, but im willing to buy it anyway (ill explain l8er on )

but now there's the problem, should i go for a first gen zen cpu?

first answer:

or i should  go for the 2700x ? it costs 354 euros a 90 euros gap for? is it worth it? is the 1800x so bugged and like unproductive?

Second answer:

or i should go for the 2600x ? it costs 40euros less than the 1800x , but are the difference in price going to make the less cores and threads  feels even?

or its just going to perform the same or even better because of its new architecture (bug fix of usage and stuff)?

now lets talk about the fact that i play a lot of light game.. i usually play Moba, but i also play pubg, rainbow six siege, cod blackout.. i do not play games like the witcher (or games with that weight of graphics to be less annoying)

 

soooo?  Help me!!!!!!

 

[Jurrunio]

what about the non-X CPUs? They are also overclockable.

[LinusOnLine]

Yea I would seriously consider the non X 2700.

[Ayiumo1]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

what about the non-X CPUs? They are also overclockable.

im probably not going to oc the cpu.. thats why id go for an higer stock ghz! i know that the difference in prize is a lot but idk.. 8j

[Tristerin]

2 minutes ago, Ayiumo1 said:

im probably not going to oc the cpu.. thats why id go for an higer stock ghz! i know that the difference in prize is a lot but idk.. 8j

The current generation Ryzen 7's are doing very well, especially when you look at price to performance ratio.  The i7 will perform better single core, that hasn't changed in many years.  But the Ryzen lines have really bridged those gaps to something that is marginally narrow imho while SPANKING them in multicore performance. 
 

I game on a Ryzen 7 1700 - if I were to build another Ryzen PC today I would do it with the 2700, no point starting a generation back IF Im willing to make the investment.

[Jurrunio]

6 minutes ago, Ayiumo1 said:

im probably not going to oc the cpu.. thats why id go for an higer stock ghz! i know that the difference in prize is a lot but idk.. 8j

then 1800x seems like the best choice. 2nd gen Ryzen doesnt gain much in performance compared to 1st gen, only 10%.

[Princess Luna]

Here in my country the Ryzen 7 1800X also is extremely cheaper due to never selling well and get stuck after Zen+ came along, and it isn't a bad processor at all.

 

Between a Ryzen 5 2600X and the 1800X I'd go with the 8 cores.

[Ayiumo1]

12 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

The current generation Ryzen 7's are doing very well, especially when you look at price to performance ratio.  The i7 will perform better single core, that hasn't changed in many years.  But the Ryzen lines have really bridged those gaps to something that is marginally narrow imho while SPANKING them in multicore performance. 
 

I game on a Ryzen 7 1700 - if I were to build another Ryzen PC today I would do it with the 2700, no point starting a generation back IF Im willing to make the investment.

2600x?

[Ayiumo1]

9 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

then 1800x seems like the best choice. 2nd gen Ryzen doesnt gain much in performance compared to 1st gen, only 10%.

but what about all the system instability have they been fixed?

 

13 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

The current generation Ryzen 7's are doing very well, especially when you look at price to performance ratio.  The i7 will perform better single core, that hasn't changed in many years.  But the Ryzen lines have really bridged those gaps to something that is marginally narrow imho while SPANKING them in multicore performance. 
 

I game on a Ryzen 7 1700 - if I were to build another Ryzen PC today I would do it with the 2700, no point starting a generation back IF Im willing to make the investment.

 

[Tristerin]

1 minute ago, Ayiumo1 said:

but what about all the system instability have they been fixed?

 

 

Im not sure what you mean by instability.  In fact that's not the issues I see people having, nor that I have.  As for posting?  Back at release people didn't know to use the QVL for RAM etc sure - or to ensure the BIOS was suitable etc.  But those issues are long gone as long as you don't by an old B350 board that isn't updated.

4 minutes ago, Ayiumo1 said:

2600x?

The more optimized titles become the more threads and cores they will use.  Me personally I will go with 8c/16t and no less going forward.  But that's because my budget can afford the extra.  If you are just gaming etc than a 2600x will do you just fine, and help your wallet much more than a comparable intel.

[Jurrunio]

22 minutes ago, Ayiumo1 said:

but what about all the system instability have they been fixed?

 

 

system instability? That's what happens with older BIOS versions. That's why you should update it right away

[Ayiumo1]

2 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

system instability? That's what happens with older BIOS versions. That's why you should update it right away

so an 1800x right now is not having anymore problem?

 

[Jurrunio]

1 hour ago, Ayiumo1 said:

so an 1800x right now is not having anymore problem?

 

not those the 2nd gen Ryzen don't have

[xg32]

2 hours ago, Ayiumo1 said:

so an 1800x right now is not having anymore problem?

 

the 1st gen memory still probably runs slower, (ie 3200 vs 3600), depending on your budget i'd go with the r5 2600 (to save money) or the r7 2700x for performance (the stock cooler's worth it), intel's a whole other can of worms.

 

This is just my opinion, but forget the first gen ryzens unless they are REALLY cheap

[Ayiumo1]

On 10/30/2018 at 9:00 PM, xg32 said:

the 1st gen memory still probably runs slower, (ie 3200 vs 3600), depending on your budget i'd go with the r5 2600 (to save money) or the r7 2700x for performance (the stock cooler's worth it), intel's a whole other can of worms.

 

This is just my opinion, but forget the first gen ryzens unless they are REALLY cheap

what about an i5 8600k is selling for 270euros-- instead of the 2700x?

 

[xg32]

7 hours ago, Ayiumo1 said:

what about an i5 8600k is selling for 270euros-- instead of the 2700x?

 

if you game at something higher than 100hz and is willing to overclock to the max, go for the 8600k, otherwise, go with the 2700x for hyperthreading