Worth $32 Difference

[Brandon0McGowan]

Hello I am currently looking at the Corsair RMx (2018) and it has 3 options the 650W, 750W, and 850W. I am wondering if a $32 price difference is worth it to get the 850W one rather then the 650W version? Keep in mind that the currency is CAD and the price difference is after tax. I am also getting the lowest prices from PC Part Picker so the 850W is from Amazon.ca and the 650W is from Corsairs website.

Thank you in advance.

[Slottr]

Do you needd 850w? What are you powering?

[DocSwag]

Well it depends on whether you need more than 650w or not. More than likely you don't need it though.

[LienusLateTips]

Well, what are your system specs? What do you plan on upgrading to in the future (within 5 years)

[Kiyometa]

@Brandon0McGowan
As everyone above has already mentioned, it depends on what you have and what your plans are. a 650W PSU can power almost any Single GPU setup. However, if you plan to in the future to upgrade to something more power intensive or do some mad overclocks, the 850W might be worth it. Keep in mind you would have to do some MAD overclocks to a single GPU system to need 850W.

Another thing to consider is the efficiency curve for each PSU. If you know that you will consistently keep it under say 45% load, for example if you let your computer do folding@home while your not using it, then the 850W might be worth it if the efficiency curve spikes at that 45%.

[Kiyometa]

@Brandon0McGowan

 

As you can see on this article, I have the Seasonic 860W Platinum, but my max load is at about 531W with an i5-6600k with moderate OC and a EVGA SC GTX 1080Ti. I also let it fold while I'm not using it, so it is consistently at max load, therefore my 860W PSU is good because its peak efficiency is at max load.

 

https://us.hardware.info/reviews/5011/6/seasonic-platinum-series-v2-660w760w860w-review-extremely-efficient-efficiency

Another thing to consider is the fan curve for the PSU. If you desire a silent system, which you are looking at the RMx PSU from Corsair which are silent based, then you need to know at what load does the fan kick on. Do you want to spend the money to make sure the fan almost never kicks on? If that doesn't matter, then does the efficiency matter? If that doesn't matter, do you just need enough power to make sure everything is fed enough to run?

 

Also, most of Corsairs good PSUs are just rebranded Seasonic PSUs, so if you see a Seasonic one at the desired W that is cheaper, go with it instead and save the money on the same PSU. Seasonic is one of the most premier PSU manufacturers.

[LienusLateTips]

7 minutes ago, Kiyometa said:

Another thing to consider is the efficiency curve for each PSU. If you know that you will consistently keep it under say 45% load, for example if you let your computer do folding@home while your not using it, then the 850W might be worth it if the efficiency curve spikes at that 45%.

In most places, power costs are NOT worth the extra cost.

 

With a higher wattage unit, you also get louder fan, even at the same load.

1 minute ago, Kiyometa said:

@Brandon0McGowan

 

As you can see on this article, I have the Seasonic 860W Platinum, but my max load is at about 531W with an i5-6600k with moderate OC and a EVGA SC GTX 1080Ti. I also let it fold while I'm not using it, so it is consistently at max load, therefore my 860W PSU is good because its peak efficiency is at max load.

 

https://us.hardware.info/reviews/5011/6/seasonic-platinum-series-v2-660w760w860w-review-extremely-efficient-efficiency

99% of people don't run the CPU and GPU at 100% all the time.

[Kiyometa]

2 minutes ago, LienusLateTips said:

In most places, power costs are NOT worth the extra cost.

 

With a higher wattage unit, you also get louder fan, even at the same load.

99% of people don't run the CPU and GPU at 100% all the time.

Please hit refresh, I added more stuff =D

I would agree 99% of people don't run their CPU and GPU 100% all the time, hence my added comments of considerations and how they affect the buyer.
He still hasn't responded so don't even know what he needs or wants.

[Stefan Payne]

22 minutes ago, Brandon0McGowan said:

Hello I am currently looking at the Corsair RMx (2018) and it has 3 options the 650W, 750W, and 850W. I am wondering if a $32 price difference is worth it to get the 850W one rather then the 650W version? Keep in mind that the currency is CAD and the price difference is after tax. I am also getting the lowest prices from PC Part Picker so the 850W is from Amazon.ca and the 650W is from Corsairs website.

Thank you in advance.

Short answer:
If you need the wattage.

If you don't need it, its wasted money.

3 minutes ago, Kiyometa said:

As you can see on this article, I have the Seasonic 860W Platinum, but my max load is at about 531W with an i5-6600k with moderate OC and a EVGA SC GTX 1080Ti.

What are you doing with that hardware?!
I need TWO Graphics cards to get close to 550W, though not overclocked. And with a bit OC; I'm only able to get a bit over 400W, 450W max...

 

 

[LienusLateTips]

4 minutes ago, Kiyometa said:

Also, most of Corsairs good PSUs are just rebranded Seasonic PSUs, so if you see a Seasonic one at the desired W that is cheaper, go with it instead and save the money on the same PSU. Seasonic is one of the most premier PSU manufacturers.

No, they aren't. At least not since like 2011.

 

RMx, RMi, CSM, CXM (2015), CX (2017), HXi, HX, AXi and TXM are not by SeaSonic. Instead built by GW or CWT.

 

SeaSonic makes shit too. Never use a manufacturer as a recommendation...

[Kiyometa]

Just now, Stefan Payne said:

Short answer:
If you need the wattage.

If you don't need it, its wasted money.

What are you doing with that hardware?!
I need TWO Graphics cards to get close to 550W, though not overclocked. And with a bit OC; I'm only able to get a bit over 400W, 450W max...

 

 

Again, depends. Since I fold while I'm away from desk, the savings in power will add up. Especially since a quality PSU has a 7-10 year warranty.

 

Meh, moderate OC. When I first got the CPU, I couldn't justify the cost of getting anything more than a 6600k.
And I do have a Corsair 110i GTX with 2 ML140 fans (these things can blow your socks off) cooling the thing XD.

[Stefan Payne]

7 minutes ago, Kiyometa said:

Also, most of Corsairs good PSUs are just rebranded Seasonic PSUs, so if you see a Seasonic one at the desired W that is cheaper, go with it instead and save the money on the same PSU. Seasonic is one of the most premier PSU manufacturers.

Sorry, but whats with the Seasonic Hypetrain?!
They ain't as good as you claim. So why the hype??

 

And Seasonic has some almost 10 year old garbage in their lineup. And lied on the label in the past, claimed two +12V Rails when there isn't even one.

 

Look here:

 

 

and Corsair PSU were Seasonic only in the beginning! Your statement is not true since 2009/10 or so, when they moved to CWT and stuck with them.

 

[Kiyometa]

5 minutes ago, LienusLateTips said:

No, they aren't. At least not since like 2011.

 

RMx, RMi, CSM, CXM (2015), CX (2017), HXi, HX, AXi and TXM are not by SeaSonic. Instead built by GW or CWT.

 

SeaSonic makes shit too. Never use a manufacturer as a recommendation...

Well sure, but you get what you pay for. If you plan to spend shit money, you get a shit PSU.

 

I also didn't know they changed brands, you are clearly more informed on the current goings on of that than I. I do a ton of research on the specific piece of gear I am getting before I buy it, just never had a problem with Seasonic in the past. Though again, I'm buying platinum efficiency PSUs, and spending the money on it, it better be friggin good.

[Vasllo]

You're not getting more of anything other than money spent by getting a bigger PSU. A 550w will take care of anything but the highest end of hardware, so just take the RM550x and have it working in a better efficiency range. My OC'd 2600k and 970 don't even hit 300w, for comparison.

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, Kiyometa said:

Well sure, but you get what you pay for. If you plan to spend shit money, you get a shit PSU.

Except SeaSonic offers (in some price brackets, especially lower ones) shit PSUs for a price where others offer great or ok ones (M12II vs CXM, S12II vs CX, ECO vs CX)

[Kiyometa]

Just now, LienusLateTips said:

Except SeaSonic offers (in some price brackets, especially lower ones) shit PSUs for a price where others offer great or ok ones (M12II vs CXM, S12II vs CX, ECO vs CX)

That's just sad for a company to do that with the M12II and the S12II. But still, haven't had a problem with my 860W Platinum PSU from them.

[Brandon0McGowan]

Holy crap so many notifications, basically I am going to be gaming on it as well as video and photo editing and currently my budget is $1000 in the beginning but i will most likely upgrade later on and if i upgrade i don't want to upgrade the PSU and if the current PSU can't power what i upgrade to.

Thanks for all the responses.

Edited October 30, 2018 by Brandon0McGowan
Misspelled word

[Kiyometa]

5 minutes ago, Brandon0McGowan said:

Holy crap so many notifications, basically I am going to be gaming on it as well as video and photo editing and currently my budget is $1000 in the beginning but i will most likely upgrade later on and if i upgrade i don't want to upgrade the PSU and if the current PSU can't power what i upgrade to.

Thanks for all the responses.

No problem, I learned some stuff too. =D

Getting a good PSU is ALWAYS a good investment. After all, if a shit one goes up, it could be the whole system too.

Though as others mentioned, plenty of good ones that arn't my level of bullshit, I know a platinum PSU is excessive.

[Jurrunio]

7 minutes ago, Brandon0McGowan said:

Holy crap so many notifications, basically I am going to be gaming on it as well as video and photo editing and currently my budget is $1000 in the beginning but i will most likely upgrade later on and if i upgrade i don't want to upgrade the PSU and if the current PSU can't power what i upgrade to.

Thanks for all the responses.

what do you plan on running?

[Brandon0McGowan]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

what do you plan on running?

As in programs or parts?

[Jurrunio]

6 minutes ago, Brandon0McGowan said:

As in programs or parts?

Hardware, sorry didnt make it clear

[Brandon0McGowan]

15 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Hardware, sorry didnt make it clear

Here is the link to the build, I only want to spend $1000 so it's not that special.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i5-7400 3GHz Quad-Core Processor	$253.50 @ Vuugo
Motherboard	MSI - B250M GAMING PRO Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$107.24 @ Newegg Canada
Memory	Crucial - Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory	$92.10 @ Amazon Canada
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$98.95 @ Vuugo
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$73.75 @ Vuugo
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB SC GAMING ACX 2.0 Video Card	$234.99 @ Newegg Canada
Case	Corsair - Air 240 MicroATX Mid Tower Case	$89.99 @ Corsair
Power Supply	Cooler Master - Elite Power 460W ATX Power Supply	$78.54 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace
Wireless Network Adapter	Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter	$44.99 @ Memory Express
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1074.05
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-30 13:24 EDT-0400

 

[Jurrunio]

2 hours ago, Brandon0McGowan said:

Here is the link to the build, I only want to spend $1000 so it's not that special.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i5-7400 3GHz Quad-Core Processor	$253.50 @ Vuugo
Motherboard	MSI - B250M GAMING PRO Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$107.24 @ Newegg Canada
Memory	Crucial - Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory	$92.10 @ Amazon Canada
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$98.95 @ Vuugo
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$73.75 @ Vuugo
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB SC GAMING ACX 2.0 Video Card	$234.99 @ Newegg Canada
Case	Corsair - Air 240 MicroATX Mid Tower Case	$89.99 @ Corsair
Power Supply	Cooler Master - Elite Power 460W ATX Power Supply	$78.54 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace
Wireless Network Adapter	Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter	$44.99 @ Memory Express
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1074.05
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-30 13:24 EDT-0400

 

1. a $1000 build is fine with 450w PSUs. The old CM Elite one is garbage, but anything past 550w is overkill. Wasting money.

 

2. Kaby Lake? You live in 2016? Time has changed and Kaby Lake is the worst thing you can buy new

[Brandon0McGowan]

2 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

1. a $1000 build is fine with 450w PSUs. The old CM Elite one is garbage, but anything past 550w is overkill. Wasting money.

 

2. Kaby Lake? You live in 2016? Time has changed and Kaby Lake is the worst thing you can buy new

This is going to be my first build, so I saw it was cheap so i put it on the list.

Thanks for the help.

[Jurrunio]

46 minutes ago, Brandon0McGowan said:

This is going to be my first build, so I saw it was cheap so i put it on the list.

Thanks for the help.

Lower price, more punch

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor	$224.30 @ Amazon Canada
Motherboard	MSI - B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard	$101.99 @ PC-Canada
Memory	G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$149.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	ADATA - XPG SX6000 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$69.99 @ Memory Express
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$73.75 @ Vuugo
Video Card	PowerColor - Radeon RX 570 4GB Red Devil Video Card	$224.99 @ Newegg Canada
Case	Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case	$69.95 @ Vuugo
Power Supply	SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	$75.99 @ PC-Canada
Wireless Network Adapter	Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter	$44.99 @ Memory Express
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1035.94
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-30 19:35 EDT-0400

 

Maybe leave out the hard drive or WiFi adapter if you need to keep it below $1000