Should i pair my Pentium dual core E5700 with GTX 1050 ti?

[ROCKERLAST]

GTX 1050 would be fine too if no then why should not I bottleneck it with GTX 1050 ti or GTX 1050

[bleedblue]

Can't you get anything better? Any modern gpu paired with that will be bottlenecked.

[Guest]

This cpu is really old (a basic Pentium that was slow in 2010) that it's gonna bottleneck with anything, even a GT 730. Save up, and get a completely new platform. It's not worth to spend money on hardware that is not gonna give you any real benefit. 

[Stefan Payne]

45 minutes ago, ROCKERLAST said:

GTX 1050 would be fine too if no then why should not I bottleneck it with GTX 1050 ti or GTX 1050

No, it makes more sense to sell it and go for a Ryzen 2200G, a cheapish Board and decent Memory. The last part is the Problem though...

 

As there are many games that won't even start with that 15 Year old CPU.

[agent_x007]

You can... but going GTX 1050 + 45nm Xeon (2x6MB L2) is probably better option.

[Stefan Payne]

1 minute ago, agent_x007 said:

You can... but going GTX 1050 + 45nm Xeon (2x6MB L2) is probably better option.

no, as its still shit and some instructions missing, wich prevents some games to play.

 

It makes no sense to invest a penny in an LGA775 System.

[aisle9]

1 hour ago, ROCKERLAST said:

GTX 1050 would be fine too if no then why should not I bottleneck it with GTX 1050 ti or GTX 1050

An E5700 has very, very limited usefulness today. Very, very, very limited. I have an E5800 that I occasionally drop into an old Dell 760 SFF along with a GT 710 to have a nice little gaming rig--for Windows XP 16-bit and 32-bit titles from 1995-2002. As a modern CPU, it's not worth a damn.

 

If you're dead set on sticking with LGA 775, at least replace your Pentium DC with a Quad, either a taped Q6600 or an overclocked Q9XXX. You really do need a full platform upgrade, but if a $10 Q6600 and $0.0002 worth of electrical tape gets you a system that will survive a GTX 1050 while you save up for a new CPU/mobo/RAM, then do what you've gotta do. You can still do much worse than Q6600/1050 as a short-term fix.

[agent_x007]

14 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

no, as its still shit and some instructions missing, wich prevents some games to play.

And which instructions/games that would be ?

[Stefan Payne]

1 minute ago, agent_x007 said:

And which instructions/games that would be ?

SSE4.2 and some newer Ubi games for example Assasin's Creed Origins.

The Gaming Forum is full with Core2 Users whining about games not running.

 

And think about it. Back in 2006, if you would come with a 10 Year Old CPU, you'd be laughed at. This CPU is even older than that. So why not replace it with something that kinda makes sense?

[AndreiArgeanu]

For an lga775 board. The best CPU you can get that might not bottleneck as much or at all would be the core 2 extreme QX9650 with 4 cores and a clock speed of 3ghz that is as good as it gets.

[agent_x007]

@AndreiArgeanu QX9770 and also, Xeon X5470 (it should work after BIOS update, and if it's already cut for LGA 775/has adapter for it).

[ROCKERLAST]

fuck.. i ordered the GPU and now i gotta buy a new cpu too smh

[ROCKERLAST]

On 10/14/2018 at 2:29 PM, Stefan Payne said:

No, it makes more sense to sell it and go for a Ryzen 2200G, a cheapish Board and decent Memory. The last part is the Problem though...

 

As there are many games that won't even start with that 15 Year old CPU.

Who gave you that idea? I've played games like resident evil 7, BF 4,r6, Payday 2, and for honor on this shitty CPU

 

[ROCKERLAST]

On 10/14/2018 at 2:48 PM, aisle9 said:

An E5700 has very, very limited usefulness today. Very, very, very limited. I have an E5800 that I occasionally drop into an old Dell 760 SFF along with a GT 710 to have a nice little gaming rig--for Windows XP 16-bit and 32-bit titles from 1995-2002. As a modern CPU, it's not worth a damn.

 

If you're dead set on sticking with LGA 775, at least replace your Pentium DC with a Quad, either a taped Q6600 or an overclocked Q9XXX. You really do need a full platform upgrade, but if a $10 Q6600 and $0.0002 worth of electrical tape gets you a system that will survive a GTX 1050 while you save up for a new CPU/mobo/RAM, then do what you've gotta do. You can still do much worse than Q6600/1050 as a short-term fix.

what about Q6600? it's any good?

[ROCKERLAST]

On 10/14/2018 at 2:39 PM, agent_x007 said:

You can... but going GTX 1050 + 45nm Xeon (2x6MB L2) is probably better option.

so, I'll get fps drop in games?

[agent_x007]

Yes*.
Pentium Dual-Core simply isn't fast enough (2MB L2 cache doesn't help).
*Depending on game, Minesweeper should be fine

You get WAY better experience with 3GHz Quad Core (Q6600/BSEL Mod 1333MHz FSB) + non-Ti card. You can get a Xeon as well if you want (54x0 series, X32x0/X33x0 series).
You must take into account what board you have (buying a Quad core, when your MB doesn't support them... isn't smart).

[Stefan Payne]

50 minutes ago, ROCKERLAST said:

Who gave you that idea? I've played games like resident evil 7, BF 4,r6, Payday 2, and for honor on this shitty CPU

and how well did you play it?! 15fps or shit like that?!
 

At some point, it makes no sense to invest in an old system. And there comes a point where you have to throw it away because it doesn't work and cut your losses and move to a new system.

You can ignore the facts as much as you want but your system is ancient and back in 2008 or so, when you'd tell people that you wanted to play games with a 1998 system, they'd laugh at you.

Because a 300MHz AMD K6 or at best a 450MHz Pentium II was really awesome - NOT.

 

And now you want to do something like that...

 

SRYSLY; Cut your losses, get an AM4 Board with DDR4 SDRAM and, if possible, a 2200G or if not, a 200GE. At least you have a somewhat modern plattform you can build on...

 

Or get a Playstation, that's also an option if you're that low on money...

[Stefan Payne]

1 hour ago, ROCKERLAST said:

so, I'll get fps drop in games?

Every 13 Year old CPU will get framedrops in modern games. Because no game developer really cares about those old things. The minimum requirement for many games is either a Haswell or maybe an Ivy Bridge - wich is already 6-8 Years old.

 

And some games do not work on a Core 2...

 

I own a Core 2 Duo Notebook with one of the fastest (Dual COre) CPUs that were ever made for it (2,5GHz), with maximum memory (=4GiB) and its at the end of its life. It has Problems playing some movies for example....

Luckily it has a dedicated Graphics card and doesn't use the integrated one.

So I know how shitty a Core 2 Duo is, compared to even a Kaveri (A10-7850K, wich is the CPU I'm writing this on right now)...

 

And I don't even think about gaming. If I had a usable Board, wich I do not have, I'd fire up my Core 2 Duo E6850 to prove to you how big the difference between a Ryzen and a Core 2 Duo is. But I've sold my Core 2 Duo Board a while back so I can't really do that right now...

 

But what I can try is use an AMD Athlon X2/4400+. For that I have a Board and 8GiB DDR2-SDRAM...

What do you want to have benched??

[aisle9]

3 hours ago, ROCKERLAST said:

what about Q6600? it's any good?

Yes, if you've got $10 now and want a stopgap whole you save for something better, a Q6600/1050 combo will still get you ok 1080p on most titles. Just make sure you overclock or tape the Q6600, because a Q6600 at 2.4GHz is way worse than a Q6600 at 3GHz.

[Carpwhisperer]

Oh boy. I'm a LGA775 user. And I'll tell you if you don't have a Q9650, at minimum, you shouldn't invest in it. My brother started with a LGA775 and had an old dual core Pentium D. He bought a 980Ti and that monster gpu was so violently bottlenecked I felt bad for it.

Some people are saying get a Q6600 which will work, but I don't think you should. Just use the E5700 and GTX 1050Ti for now. Realize you will have made a mistake through severe bottlenecking. Then save up for an AM4 platform. To my knowledge there are currently three APU series for the socket now. Heck you don't even need those just get a good Ryzen processor and slam that GTX 1050Ti and do it justice. 

Also, sorry for repeating everyone else is saying. It's just kind of the truth.

 

Tl:dr? Save your money. Buy a new system. Sincerely, fellow LGA775 user.

[ROCKERLAST]

okay, guys, I'll buy a new system without GPU, btw let the GPU come, I'll tell you how it's working?

[Stefan Payne]

2 hours ago, ROCKERLAST said:

okay, guys, I'll buy a new system without GPU, btw let the GPU come, I'll tell you how it's working?

Good coice, great that you choose the best way (long term) 

I've got my Athlon 64/6000+ (the 3,1GHz version. There are a couple different ones) running and installed rise of the Tomb Raider, this is what I've got:

 

Specs:
Athlon 6000+/8GiB DDR2-666 Memory, ASUS M3A32-MVP, Radeon HD7970, DX11 because Windows 7.

Preset: Medium.

 

I don't have a Ryzen with IGP yet, thoguh I'm already planning to do it but I got a 

 

And here my Ryzen 7/1700x (all Default), 2x8GiB DDR4-2400 and a RX480, also Preset Medium (Game Mode/4 Cores with 8 Threads hardly make a difference, except for Geothermal Valley with 81fps average instead of 94,78):