First Nvidia now Intel someone need to...........

[Galion]

Grab both companies CEOs and set both their pants on fire, first it was the RTX launch and their bullshit with shadows and light reflection after they even launched crappy updates for the 10 series to make the 20 series to look faster then they were.

We caught them in 1 day and their answer was " sorry the drivers were buggy" then released a new driver that set things back to as they were before. We know drivers aren't built in a day you assholes you were tryi g to be ready in case we caught on you damn shit stains. 

Now it's Intel's turn, knowingly tuning down Ryzen R7 2700Xs by gaming mode is bullshit and saying "oh we didn't know" and with the cooler "Ryzen said it was good". Well Intel it's not ryzen's fault you make shitty heatsink and charge us twice the price, while AMD tries to improve it's user experience. Spending 15 billion dollars on R and D in 14nm Woo-hoo we improved our research.... the truth is you screwed up you 10nm research and you don't want us looking at that. 

You know your 14nm ++ are on it's last legs you can't do much more on them so you resort to defaming AMD's zen architecture being worse. I may not be some genius working in Intel or AMD but I can see bullshit for what it is. 

 

Come on guys, I know performance is important in computers but we already have the 8700k and the 2700x are you going to let Intel rip off $500 off you for what a .3 -.5 ghz performance boost your 8700k already can hit 5ghz.

It feels like we're saying "go ahead and fuck us with red hot poker all they want we'll still spend our money on you" 

 

That's just me what do you guys think? 

Have fun and good day to all. 

[JoostinOnline]

AMD is just as guilty of this kind of stuff too. As are almost all corporations. Pointless rants about corporations acting in their own interest are against the community guidelines.

[Amazonsucks]

Which nvidia driver is safe to use now?

[Galion]

1 minute ago, JoostinOnline said:

AMD is just as guilty of this kind of stuff too. As are almost all corporations. Pointless rants about corporations acting in their own interest are against the community guidelines.

It was ether this or going to the scrapyard pay $20 and bash on cars with a crowbar, you decid. 

AMD may fib a little but I don't think they'll go defame another company's product 

[Galion]

1 minute ago, Arika S said:

that's some hefty salt.

 

never take release events as an accurate indication of an upcoming product (regardless of company), they are always doing stuff like this to make their product seem better.

 

this is why you wait for independent reviews and bench,marks 

I agree but I had clients come in to cancel their 9700 pre-order 

[JoostinOnline]

4 minutes ago, Galion said:

It was ether this or going to the scrapyard pay $20 and bash on cars with a crowbar, you decid.

Or be an adult.

4 minutes ago, Galion said:

AMD may fib a little but I don't think they'll go defame another company's product 

They've had biased tests to cover their own flaws and paid for reviews. You seem to have forgotten the disaster around RAM compatibility when Ryzen launched. How they used more RAM on Intel systems and claimed they were giving Intel an advantage, but were actually covering up that (at that time, and for months after the launch), Ryzen couldn't handle high frequencies or capacities.

4 minutes ago, Galion said:

I agree but I had clients come in to cancel their 9700 pre-order 

They were dumb to preorder to begin with.

[JoostinOnline]

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/965477-community-standards/
 

Quote

 

No trolling or flame-bait

• This includes topics such as AMD vs NVIDIA, "company X sucks", and political or religious debates.

 

 

[Galion]

7 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

Or be an adult.

They've had biased tests to cover their own flaws and paid for reviews. You seem to have forgotten the disaster around RAM compatibility when Ryzen launched. How they used more RAM on Intel systems and claimed they were giving Intel an advantage, but were actually covering up that (at that time, and for months after the launch), Ryzen couldn't handle high frequencies or capacities.

They were dumb to preorder to begin with.

Oh yeah I forgot about that too, Meh AMD can be shitty at times too

[Galion]

9 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

21 minutes ago, Galion said:

It was ether this or going to the scrapyard pay $20 and bash on cars with a crowbar, you decid.

Or be an adult

I'm 16 lol

[Mello]

37 minutes ago, Galion said:

Now it's Intel's turn, knowingly tuning down Ryzen R7 2700Xs by gaming mode is bullshit and saying "oh we didn't know" and with the cooler "Ryzen said it was good". Well Intel it's not ryzen's fault you make shitty heatsink and charge us twice the price, while AMD tries to improve it's user experience.

wtf does that mean? 

[Curufinwe_wins]

35 minutes ago, Arika S said:

If you upgrade from a 2700x or 8700k to the 9900k, you're an idiot.

 

I'm never going to suggest that it is a cost effective move. Upgrading after one gen rarely is. BUT.... It should be noted that on the one hand (AMD to Intel) you are gaining at least 25% Single Threaded performance, and on the other hand (intel to intel) you are gaining at least 25% Multithreaded preformance. 

 

Both estimates being rather conservative since the 9900k enjoys over 25% frequency advantage at stock and likely similar OC to OC (based on initial reports of overclocking headroom on the 9900k). Thus the IPC lead (albeit smallish) Intel has at the moment is just extra bonus. The other estimate with perfect scaling at the same clocks should be 33%, but perfect scaling is rare, even in well designed parallel processes, and the 9900k should have <10% frequency advantage as well.

 

 

OBVIOUSLY for gaming DON'T do it. But it isn't nothing (and CPU's used to be WAY more expensive for less return on investment up the product stack than right now, so....)

[Master Disaster]

58 minutes ago, Galion said:

Grab both companies CEOs and set both their pants on fire, first it was the RTX launch and their bullshit with shadows and light reflection after they even launched crappy updates for the 10 series to make the 20 series to look faster then they were.

We caught them in 1 day and their answer was " sorry the drivers were buggy" then released a new driver that set things back to as they were before. We know drivers aren't built in a day you assholes you were tryi g to be ready in case we caught on you damn shit stains. 

Now it's Intel's turn, knowingly tuning down Ryzen R7 2700Xs by gaming mode is bullshit and saying "oh we didn't know" and with the cooler "Ryzen said it was good". Well Intel it's not ryzen's fault you make shitty heatsink and charge us twice the price, while AMD tries to improve it's user experience. Spending 15 billion dollars on R and D in 14nm Woo-hoo we improved our research.... the truth is you screwed up you 10nm research and you don't want us looking at that. 

You know your 14nm ++ are on it's last legs you can't do much more on them so you resort to defaming AMD's zen architecture being worse. I may not be some genius working in Intel or AMD but I can see bullshit for what it is. 

 

Come on guys, I know performance is important in computers but we already have the 8700k and the 2700x are you going to let Intel rip off $500 off you for what a .3 -.5 ghz performance boost your 8700k already can hit 5ghz.

It feels like we're saying "go ahead and fuck us with red hot poker all they want we'll still spend our money on you" 

 

That's just me what do you guys think? 

Have fun and good day to all. 

Intel did not do the benchmarks, Ryzen is not a company and you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

Does this situation suck? Yeah it does, it hurts consumers and the tech industry.

 

Does throwing wild speculation and insults around help anybody? Nope.

 

Does accusing Intel of being anti competitive while simultaneously fanboying over AMD make a person a hypocrite? You bet it does.

[Alex Atkin UK]

56 minutes ago, Galion said:

Grab both companies CEOs and set both their pants on fire, first it was the RTX launch and their bullshit with shadows and light reflection after they even launched crappy updates for the 10 series to make the 20 series to look faster then they were.

Except many YouTube channels have tested that and proven it to be false.

[Galion]

6 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

Intel is not a person nor did they do the benchmarks, Ryzen is not a company and you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

Does this situation suck? Yeah it does, it hurts consumers and the tech industry.

 

Does throwing wild speculation and insults around help anybody? Nope.

 

Does accusing Intel of being anti competitive while simultaneously fanboying over AMD make a person a hypocrite? You bet it does.

LOL, how is it fanboy? Yes I know AMD and Intel isn't a person but there is a person in the company that's in charge and to supervise what happens in that company,He's called a "CEO" it is their responsibility to the image and product of the company. And how is defaming your competitors product considered fair? 

That's why Musk was asked to step down because of the same kind of bullshit "lying" . 

As I say d I have said I forgot about the AMD ram incident and nor did I say "Oh AMD does no wrong" 

All companies can be shitty but it is because people keep silent that these companies keep doing shitty actions like these. 

It's been like this even before I put my hands on my first motherboard. 

 

I understand there are those who fanboy but I'm speaking my mind and the truth, if you think what they have been doing is what you call "fair game l" you are no different to their ethics

[Cereal5]

1 hour ago, Amazonsucks said:

Which nvidia driver is safe to use now?

The newest one is fine. I believe it was released in the last 10 days or so.

 

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someone need to...........

Someone needs to do something? You're gonna learn something real fast in life, once you get out into the real world. Going out and yelling "someone needs to do something!" gets you nowhere. If you want something to change, go do it yourself. It's not someone else's responsibility to make you happy.

 

[Master Disaster]

21 minutes ago, Galion said:

LOL, how is it fanboy? Yes I know AMD and Intel isn't a person but there is a person in the company that's in charge and to supervise what happens in that company,He's called a "CEO" it is their responsibility to the image and product of the company. And how is defaming your competitors product considered fair? 

That's why Musk was asked to step down because of the same kind of bullshit "lying" . 

As I say d I have said I forgot about the AMD ram incident and nor did I say "Oh AMD does no wrong" 

All companies can be shitty but it is because people keep silent that these companies keep doing shitty actions like these. 

It's been like this even before I put my hands on my first motherboard. 

 

I understand there are those who fanboy but I'm speaking my mind and the truth, if you think what they have been doing is what you call "fair game l" you are no different to their ethics

I genuinely don't even know how to respond to this...

1 hour ago, Galion said:

I'm 16 lol

It shows.

[Galion]

14 minutes ago, Cereal5 said:

The newest one is fine. I believe it was released in the last 10 days or so.

 

Someone needs to do something? You're gonna learn something real fast in life, once you get out into the real world. Going out and yelling "someone needs to do something!" gets you nowhere. If you want something to change, go do it yourself. It's not someone else's responsibility to make you happy.

 

Shia looks constapated in that video >.<

[Galion]

14 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

37 minutes ago, Galion said:

LOL, how is it fanboy? Yes I know AMD and Intel isn't a person but there is a person in the company that's in charge and to supervise what happens in that company,He's called a "CEO" it is their responsibility to the image and product of the company. And how is defaming your competitors product considered fair? 

That's why Musk was asked to step down because of the same kind of bullshit "lying" . 

As I say d I have said I forgot about the AMD ram incident and nor did I say "Oh AMD does no wrong" 

All companies can be shitty but it is because people keep silent that these companies keep doing shitty actions like these. 

It's been like this even before I put my hands on my first motherboard. 

 

I understand there are those who fanboy but I'm speaking my mind and the truth, if you think what they have been doing is what you call "fair game l" you are no different to their ethics

I genuinely don't even know how to respond to this...

I'm just wondering, do you work for either companies or their sub-sadiaries?

[mr moose]

1 hour ago, Galion said:

 

AMD may fib a little but I don't think they'll go defame another company's product 

 

When Nvidia was releasing Gsync, Richard Huddy (the "gaming scientist" from AMD) was lying flat out in the media and in interviews about it.  He was also flat out calling nvidia crooked and intentionally ruining games for AMD owners with special software that forced game devs to gimp AMD cards.

 

Trust me, all companies are as bad as each other. They all make dodgy claims, push their marketing to the limits of truth and if possible have a go at the competition.

[Galion]

4 minutes ago, mr moose said:

 

When Nvidia was releasing Gsync, Richard Huddy (the "gaming scientist" from AMD) was lying flat out in the media and in interviews about it.  He was also flat out calling nvidia crooked and intentionally ruining games for AMD owners with special software that forced game devs to gimp AMD cards.

 

Trust me, all companies are as bad as each other. They all make dodgy claims, push their marketing to the limits of truth and if possible have a go at the competition.

LOL, and another that doesn't read thru all the post. 

Yes, I agree and because of dodgy bisnuess people like them we consumers suffer thru bullshit like this. 

All companies are the same including AMD "Gamers are our priority" my ass "money comes first always" now that's their motto 

[Master Disaster]

2 minutes ago, mr moose said:

 

When Nvidia was releasing Gsync, Richard Huddy (the "gaming scientist" from AMD) was lying flat out in the media and in interviews about it.  He was also flat out calling nvidia crooked and intentionally ruining games for AMD owners with special software that forced game devs to gimp AMD cards.

 

Trust me, all companies are as bad as each other. They all make dodgy claims, push their marketing to the limits of truth and if possible have a go at the competition.

To be fair, Nvidia have done that in the past. Remember when DX11 launched and gameworks was forcing some games to do full tessellation on water because Nvidia GPUs had hardware support and AMDs didn't? Crysis 2 was the main offender iirc but I think a few games suffered, AMD owners had to disable tessellation entirely just to be able to play at all.

 

10 minutes ago, Galion said:

I'm just wondering, do you work for either companies or their sub-sadiaries?

That's just your age showing through again. I actually find it rather endearing that you're so passionate about these things.

 

Unfortunately as you get older you quickly realise that you're just one person and you can never change the outcome. Large corporations are greedy by nature and unfortunately they do sometimes resort to underhanded tactics in order to try and gain an advantage. Shouting and going off on rants is not going to change that (especially when you have some things factually wrong to begin with).

[mr moose]

1 minute ago, Galion said:

LOL, and another that doesn't read thru all the post.

I had a browse and nothing you said seemed to acknowledge the issue or assumption.  In fact it seems you tried to deflect it by asking if the other posters were employed buy said companies,  I am not sure what you were actually trying to say, but it heavily implies you are calling people shills because they hold a more worldly view.

 

4 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

To be fair, Nvidia have done that in the past. Remember when DX11 launched and gameworks was forcing some games to do full tessellation on water because Nvidia GPUs had hardware support and AMDs didn't? Crysis 2 was the main offender iirc but I think a few games suffered, AMD owners had to disable tessellation entirely just to be able to play at all.

 

 

 

Of course, that might have been intentional, but My point was AMD certainly weren't quiet about the accusations that it was all intentional.  As far as I know Nvidia did nothing to change it and game dev's changed the settings to give tessellation control back to the user. 

[Galion]

3 minutes ago, mr moose said:

12 minutes ago, Galion said:

LOL, and another that doesn't read thru all the post.

I had a browse and nothing you said seemed to acknowledge the issue or assumption.  In fact it seems you tried to deflect it by asking if the other posters were employed buy said companies,  I am not sure what you were actually trying to say, but it heavily implies you are calling people shills because they hold a more worldly view.

It is a worldly view, mankind is a selfish creature. 

As MASTER DISASTER said maybe I'm still to optimistic at my age on how the world should work. 

But it is people that make the choices on "how it should work" 

All I can do is work hard on my side and hope I get the opportunity to change "how it should work" 

[Galion]

3 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

No, you are not allowed to take up a stance against whoever is currently screwing people over. Because then you'll be siding with the party that should forever be shunned for the shit they did in the past or never did at all, no matter how long ago it was. For example AMD is also culpable of attempting to wipe out all jews. Companies and the people who run them never change. Therefore it is perfectly alright to view the likes of Nvidia and Ajit Pai as if they never did anything wrong, and continue to solicit their ideology and products.

 

You should not side with AMD even they stay clean for the next 100 years, and Intel should always be fair game even if they continue to shaft us for the next 100 years.

Wait what "Jews"?!? 

Huilun.... Well he seems to be ready for all their "red hot pokers" lol

[mr moose]

12 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

No, you are not allowed to take up a stance against whoever is currently screwing people over. Because then you'll be siding with the party that should forever be shunned for the shit they did in the past or never did at all, no matter how long ago it was. For example AMD is also culpable of attempting to wipe out all jews. Companies and the people who run them never change. Therefore it is perfectly alright to view the likes of Nvidia and Ajit Pai as if they never did anything wrong, and continue to solicit their ideology and products.

 

You should not side with AMD even they stay clean for the next 100 years, and Intel should always be fair game even if they continue to shaft us for the next 100 years.

 

huh?

 

People are allowed to take any stance against any company they want.  The issue you seem to have missed is that you should not extol any company while accusing other companies of things that company has done also.