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SPECS:

CPU= Intel Core i5-4460 CPU @ 3.20GHz

RAM= Hyper X 8.00 GB RAM

GPU= Zotac Geforce GTX 960

PSU= 850 Watt Corsair 

Motherboard= MSI Z87 MPOWER MAX (MS-7815) (SOCKET 0) 1.0 Intel

 

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Budget?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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i7 4770k

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

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36 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

what do you do on it and what games and budget?

No more than $500 and I would like to play games like Monster Hunter World, Destiny 2, and some other games like those in the future.

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3 minutes ago, Imadickhead143 said:

No more than $500 and I would like to play games like Monster Hunter World, Destiny 2, and some other games like those in the future.

Destiny 2 was a super smooth experience on my 4790k, so my 4770k recommendation still stands. I assume you're targeting 1080p 60 fps, so I thing upgrading to a used 1070 or 980 will do the trick. should be around $450 altogether 

 

Edit: didn't see your last addition, but my recommendation should still work.

 

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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Also sometimes my computer can just run slow, or just be kind of like laggy, I want to solve that as well

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SSD maybe? But what things would I have to transfer to the SSD to change the problem? The OS?

 

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Just now, Imadickhead143 said:

Also sometimes my computer can just run slow, or just be kind of like laggy, I want to solve that as well

Yeah, quad cores tend to do that. Yes, you will want an SSD for windows as well as important programs/games

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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53 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Destiny 2 was a super smooth experience on my 4790k, so my 4770k recommendation still stands. I assume you're targeting 1080p 60 fps, so I thing upgrading to a used 1070 or 980 will do the trick. should be around $450 altogether 

 

Edit: didn't see your last addition, but my recommendation should still work.

 

You reckon? Probably best to go with a 1060/580 (6/8gb if you can find a good priced one), grab an SSD and potentially a better CPU. Not familiar on the prices of intel chips though.

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Just now, N1NJ4W4RR10R said:

You reckon? Probably best to go with a 1060/580 (6/8gb if you can find a good priced one), grab an SSD and potentially a better CPU. Not familiar on the prices of intel chips though.

Yeah, 1060 6gb ought to do it, i just figured the 980 is a pretty good price/performance contender. The 4770k should be around $150, or less if you win a bid on one. The SSD should be a priority for sure.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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Minimum I'd say is to get a new 1060, 8 more GB of ram, and a 4770k on eBay from a trusted seller. That would easily fit in your budget.

 

Any other avenue of pushing to a better CPU (8th gen i5 or i7) or better GPU (1070 or higher) would easily push out of your budget.

 

4770k and 8 GB of ram would be the priority. 

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8 minutes ago, DarkSwordsman said:

 

Any other avenue of pushing to a better CPU (8th gen i5 or i7) or better GPU (1070 or higher) would easily push out of your budget.

 

well ryzen would be a decent upgrade but probably not as cost effective as the current platform upgrade

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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16 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

well ryzen would be a decent upgrade but probably not as cost effective as the current platform upgrade

1900x at minimum certainly would be an upgrade, but if you're going that route, you may as well go for an i7-8700k ($350). Or, to be more cost effective, an i7-8700 (no overclocking, but $290) or even an i5-8400 ($190). 

 

Since you're only gaming, you won't really be able to benefit from all the cores. You would benefit more from stronger cores than more cores. 

Edit: If you're getting anything less than a 1900x, you may as well go Intel, especially in this case.

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Also note, I am using an i7-2600k @ 4.2 GHz. I am a web developer, so you can see me with 20+ Tabs on Chrome with Spotify and Twitch playing at the same time (I know I'm weird), with a Front End and API server both running locally, with Discord and VScode open, so easily 27 different processes, not including the audio decoding on Twitch and Spotify, and I run perfectly fine, no issues. It hits about 8-10 GB of RAM. 

 

Gaming it runs well. The only thing it stuggles with is OBS. I can kinda push out a 720p30 stream @ 2500 Kbps, but it struggles depending on the game. That's why I want to go with a 7820x build sometime around January. 

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34 minutes ago, DarkSwordsman said:

1900x at minimum certainly would be an upgrade, but if you're going that route, you may as well go for an i7-8700k ($350). Or, to be more cost effective, an i7-8700 (no overclocking, but $290) or even an i5-8400 ($190). 

 

Since you're only gaming, you won't really be able to benefit from all the cores. You would benefit more from stronger cores than more cores. 

Edit: If you're getting anything less than a 1900x, you may as well go Intel, especially in this case.

a ryzen 5 has better single threaded than haswell, unless it's 4790k vs 1400 stock. AMD couldn't get away with selling chips worse than 4th gen, plus it comes with a fancy new warranty and also higher power efficiency. Worth considering in general, but in this case not as practical.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

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You might have already figured out what you want to do, but thought I'd give my two cents. I agree on the 4770k and extra RAM for sure. As for GPU, 1060 6GB should perform perfectly. In Destiny 2 (mostly max settings) I'm hitting right around 60fps at 1440p, and I haven't seen it dip below that at all at 1080p. If you don't mind spending a little extra though, a 1070 would probably be best if you're wanting to do 1440p or high refresh rates.

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I've been checking my RAM usage and I don't see why I would need more RAM. Is it really necessary? And Why?

 

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10 minutes ago, Imadickhead143 said:

I've been checking my RAM usage and I don't see why I would need more RAM. Is it really necessary? And Why?

 

If you haven't seen ram bottlenecking in task manager while gaming, then it probably doesn't matter. More ram will just make the system last longer.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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22 minutes ago, Imadickhead143 said:

I use two monitors on the same PC, does that impact my system/FPS?

Not really

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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On 9/15/2018 at 2:40 AM, Imadickhead143 said:

SPECS:

CPU= Intel Core i5-4460 CPU @ 3.20GHz

RAM= Hyper X 8.00 GB RAM

GPU= Zotac Geforce GTX 960

PSU= 850 Watt Corsair 

Motherboard= MSI Z87 MPOWER MAX (MS-7815) (SOCKET 0) 1.0 Intel

 

Get an i7 4770k or 4790k from eBay nor criagslist fr cheap.

Also, grab a used 980/980ti from criagslist. I found an old gtx 980 fr $100 USD. Try ur luck.

 

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