Bottlenecking or not

[Vovve]

Hi there, 
I followed what linus were talking about, and that got my start thinking that my rig is bottlenecking. 

Current specifications are as followed; 

An I7 4790K at 4GHz on a Asus Gryphon Armor Edition Z97
16GB HyperX Fury DDR3 1600MHz
MSI Gaming X 1080 
Running with two 500GB SSDs from Samsung one 840 Evo and one 850 Evo.. 

I tend to be playing 1080p games and stream to Twitch through OBS Studio, while doing so I get some dropping in frames. Is that so because of the rig or just the settings. 

That's basically why I came here, and to ask you here on LTT forums about an appropriate upgrade.. CPU + RAM + Motherboard level since I kinda long towards a good rig for multiple purposes. 

I thank you all in advance
/Vovve

[3 Lions]

Just now, Vovve said:

I tend to be playing 1080p games and stream to Twitch through OBS Studio, while doing so I get some dropping in frames. Is that so because of the rig or just the settings. 

Try and overclock the CPU. 

[Phentos]

What codec are you using to stream via OBS? The 4790K should not be a significant bottleneck for a 1080.

[Br3tt96]

What games are you playing? What is your stream quality 720p?

[Mira Yurizaki]

Playing games and streaming to Twitch impacts CPU performance. If this is something you'll be doing regularly, consider getting a 6 or 8-core Ryzen system.

 

Otherwise you could see if OBS can use either Intel's QuickSync or NVENC to offload video encoding to the GPU (iGPU or video card).

 

EDIT: You could also consider a 6-core Intel system, but this use case is usually more sensitive to core count.

[SidM]

i think your cpu is proving to be a bottleneck to that rather ppowerful gtx 1080. You sould probably upgrade to a later genration or change your in-game settings

[Geotropism]

22 minutes ago, Vovve said:

Hi there, 
I followed what linus were talking about, and that got my start thinking that my rig is bottlenecking. 

Current specifications are as followed; 

An I7 4790K at 4GHz on a Asus Gryphon Armor Edition Z97
16GB HyperX Fury DDR3 1600MHz
MSI Gaming X 1080 
Running with two 500GB SSDs from Samsung one 840 Evo and one 850 Evo.. 

I tend to be playing 1080p games and stream to Twitch through OBS Studio, while doing so I get some dropping in frames. Is that so because of the rig or just the settings. 

That's basically why I came here, and to ask you here on LTT forums about an appropriate upgrade.. CPU + RAM + Motherboard level since I kinda long towards a good rig for multiple purposes. 

I thank you all in advance
/Vovve

i7 4790k is only 4c/8t, that's why you're noticing a framedrop while gaming and streaming. Overclocking might help a bit, but if you're looking at an upgrade I'd recommend Ryzen.

[Liquid_Z]

5 hours ago, Vovve said:

Hi there, 
I followed what linus were talking about, and that got my start thinking that my rig is bottlenecking. 

Current specifications are as followed; 

An I7 4790K at 4GHz on a Asus Gryphon Armor Edition Z97
16GB HyperX Fury DDR3 1600MHz
 

Your CPU is definitely a point of bottlenecking, but it will depend primarily on the game. Watch Dogs 2, Mass Effect: Andromeda, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided & Total War: Warhammer are examples that come to mind of bottlenecking I experienced. I upgraded from a 1070 to a 1080  with a near identical build to your own and barely noticed an FPS increase in those titles. It wasn't until I upgrading my CPU and RAM that I noticed any change. Oh and the speed of your ram may also cause some bottlenecking. I noticed nearly a 5-10 fps increase and a huge boost in frame stability in Watch Dogs 2 when upgrading ram from a previous build from 16GB of 1600MHz DDR3 memory to 16GB of 2400 MHz DDR3 memory alone. Again, these sorts of improvements with vary per game.

 

Upgrading the CPU, RAM and Motherboard will give you much better performance then if you were to upgrade you 1080. If you've got the money to spend I'd would say definitely go a head with it. I did about the same thing as you a year or two ago when I upgraded to a 7700K and haven't regretted it since. Since you're streaming I would recommend getting something with 6-cores, so that not only do you get a great streaming experience, but a gaming experience as well.

[Vovve]

On 2018-08-06 at 6:28 PM, Phentos said:

What codec are you using to stream via OBS? The 4790K should not be a significant bottleneck for a 1080.

I am using NVENC at 6000 kb for video and 160 bit for sound. Canvas @ 1080 and out downscaled to 720 with Bicubic 16 samples at 60FPS

 

On 2018-08-06 at 6:29 PM, Br3tt96 said:

What games are you playing? What is your stream quality 720p?

I've recently just been playing CoD WWII, I usually play the Battlefield games. But for the moment I am in a CoD WWII phase. I am streaming at 720p60fps

I am not a genie on OCing which would leave me in the abyss with numbers and ratios
I have been looking into AMD once again, latest AMD cpu I had was a Athlon XP 1800+ hehe.. Since some of you suggested that I should look into that, which I will. 
Feels like upgrading the CPU department is long due since I've had these comps for a while now. 

I thank you all!

[Br3tt96]

2 minutes ago, Vovve said:

I am using NVENC at 6000 kb for video and 160 bit for sound. Canvas @ 1080 and out downscaled to 720 with Bicubic 16 samples at 60FPS

 

I've recently just been playing CoD WWII, I usually play the Battlefield games. But for the moment I am in a CoD WWII phase. I am streaming at 720p60fps

I am not a genie on OCing which would leave me in the abyss with numbers and ratios
I have been looking into AMD once again, latest AMD cpu I had was a Athlon XP 1800+ hehe.. Since some of you suggested that I should look into that, which I will. 
Feels like upgrading the CPU department is long due since I've had these comps for a while now. 

I thank you all!

Yeah those Cores from the Ryzen would help. Could build another pc and have a dedicated streaming machine if money wasn't any issue.