Donald Trump Discussion

[cheiften98]

I really like Donald Trump, he's doing some great things, unemployment at an all time low, GDP, stock market, black unemployment, highest average wage in the world now. crime is going down too.

All i see on the mainstream news is fucking Trump bashing... all day today its about the protests in the UK. People in the streets calling him racist and holding signs up saying "no fascists" "hands of my rights".
Im trying so hard to see these peoples point of view, i just want to understand it. Any time ive asked anyone on facebook posts/ news articles. they never get back with an example after calling him a nazi.

what do you guys think?

Keep it civil please.

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

3 minutes ago, cheiften98 said:

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He's just very misguided. I'll leave it that. His whole trade thing should be enough to show how he is. 

[cheiften98]

1 minute ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

He's just very misguided. I'll leave it that. His whole trade thing should be enough to show how he is. 

can you explain further, because what ive seen his trade deals are great. he's out for his country which is right.

 

[Urishima]

Outside of the Syria strikes the guy is doing pretty good. Trump derangement syndrome has the MSM in a vice grip, which is fucking hilarious.

[cheiften98]

i just got a private message saying that they reported me.  i just want to have a fruitful discussion and didnt want to go on reddit or some other place where there will be just trolls.

[cheiften98]

2 minutes ago, Urishima said:

Outside of the Syria strikes the guy is doing pretty good. Trump derangement syndrome has the MSM in a vice grip, which is fucking hilarious.

He bombed chemical weapons that had no casualties though... what was wrong with that?

[Urishima]

I have yet to see convincing evidence that it was Assad who did it. Makes no fucking sense. They guy might be an authoritarian asshole, but he is not insane. He would know that using chemical weapons against the populace would result in an armed response. The claim that it was Assad is about as insane as the claim my dear mother made that it was definitely Putin who gave him said chemicals.

 

More likely it was some terror cell within the area trying to stir shit up, and stir shit up they did. And do we even know what kind if chemical agent it was?

[Stefan Payne]

14 minutes ago, cheiften98 said:

what do you guys think?

He knows how to troll the Media and has some experience with dealings outside of the US. 

He is a total amateur at politics though...

 

But I believe that he wants to build a legacy and wants to be remembered as the best President the US has ever seen. And maybe the one that brought down the corperate Media, wich don't like him because he communicates directly with the Populus without their filtering. That must piss them off. Also that they were wrong on election night and before...

 

Anyway:
He ain't no racist

he tries to get rid fo gouvernment instutitions/Power - A fascist would do the opposite. 

And I believe that if the Reps gain some Seats and rid of some Never Trumpers he can do some good work...

 

 

 

In a best case scenario, he might get rid of the Patriot act.

 

 

[cheiften98]

its tough to know what news is true. just doing a quick google search for "trump syria strikes" comes up with even mainstream media saying they bombed chemical weapons. I thought chemical weapons were illegal so even if it wasnt Assad i dont think it was a wrong decision.

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[Firewrath9]

25 minutes ago, cheiften98 said:

I really like Donald Trump, he's doing some great things, unemployment at an all time low, GDP, stock market, black unemployment, highest average wage in the world now. crime is going down too.

All i see on the mainstream news is fucking Trump bashing... all day today its about the protests in the UK. People in the streets calling him racist and holding signs up saying "no fascists" "hands of my rights".
Im trying so hard to see these peoples point of view, i just want to understand it. Any time ive asked anyone on facebook posts/ news articles. they never get back with an example after calling him a nazi.

what do you guys think?

Keep it civil please.

He says that his trade deals are good for farmers. crop prices for soy have went down 20%. imagine if you earned 20% less. that would be pretty tough. Steel went up 20% too. hes putting tariffs on nice people like the Canadians. Trudeau is fam. He also pissed off all our allies by slapping taxes. He is very rude to women and has terrible appointees like the housing sec guy who bought charter plane tickets, the former epa director who wasted money on fancy desks and rooms. he also destroyed DACA. without his tariffs, harley would still make cycles in the US, cars would be cheaper. Whiskey prices also dropped so distillers earn less money.

[Stefan Payne]

7 minutes ago, cheiften98 said:

He bombed chemical weapons that had no casualties though... what was wrong with that?

Why would Assad use those Weapons?

Assad has a Medical degree, he wanted to become a doctor...

 

And with the international preassure and the look on him, he knows that he can not use them. And from Alternative media, you see that its a false flag operation. 

 

Another Thing, since Assad has a Medical degree, he might know that Nerve Agents aren't as great as people think they are.

Here the perspective of a scientist (who does hate guns it seems):

 

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Urishima said:

I have yet to see convincing evidence that it was Assad who did it. Makes no fucking sense. They guy might be an authoritarian asshole, but he is not insane. He would know that using chemical weapons against the populace would result in an armed response. The claim that it was Assad is about as insane as the claim my dear mother made that it was definitely Putin who gave him said chemicals.

 

More likely it was some terror cell within the area trying to stir shit up, and stir shit up they did. And do we even know what kind if chemical agent it was?

Apart from the WHO finding evidence chemical weapons were used. And Assad having used them many times before. It was Chlorine. It wasn't the Russians, Syria have been using them for ages. Assad is a giant nutbag but better than the rebels or ISIS. Nothing in that region is ideal but it was stable before the Arab Spring with Assad. 

[aezakmi]

I don't live in the US but the persons who protest against Trump there are a worldwide plague community, there, in the UK, Asia and South America and whoever isn't one of them is a racist or a "bigot"

 

msm and TV in general is all degenerate bs

[cheiften98]

Trudeau is a moron. "we dont say man kind, we say people kind" he's an SJW that has gotten in power. He wants to screw Trump with trade deals but when Trump fights back on them he calls him out saying he wont be bullied.

[Firewrath9]

imho i dont really like talking about politics or religon becuase no matter how hard you try, you cant convince people otherwise so dont try. 

 

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He says that his trade deals are good for farmers. crop prices for soy have went down 20%. imagine if you earned 20% less. that would be pretty tough. Steel went up 20% too. hes putting tariffs on nice people like the Canadians. Trudeau is fam. He also pissed off all our allies by slapping taxes. He is very rude to women and has terrible appointees like the housing sec guy who bought charter plane tickets, the former epa director who wasted money on fancy desks and rooms. he also destroyed DACA. without his tariffs, harley would still make cycles in the US, cars would be cheaper. Whiskey prices also dropped so distillers earn less money.

[cheiften98]

1 minute ago, Firewrath9 said:

imo i talking about politics or religon becuase no matter how hard you try, you cant convince people otherwise so dont try. 

well every time ive said i like trump im called racist. not really an argument that could convince anyone.

 

[Stefan Payne]

His Intentions with the Tarrifs are to get the others to reduce them.

Just look at how high the Taxes of China are on foreign PRoducts or the EU.

 

So the EU taxes US Products by like 20% or more, the US doesn't tax EU Products in return, ähm, yeah...

 

Well, maybe Trump might also bring the EU down and we would go back to the EEC...

[dizmo]

15 minutes ago, cheiften98 said:

Trudeau is a moron. "we dont say man kind, we say people kind" he's an SJW that has gotten in power. He wants to screw Trump with trade deals but when Trump fights back on them he calls him out saying he wont be bullied.

How is Canada screwing the US with trade deals? It isn't. If you look into a lot of what Trump says, it's either things he's made up on the spot and is a straight up lie, or is a horribly misconstrued fact.

[PCGuy_5960]

Yeah.... Nooooo. 

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