YouTube is terminating accounts that promote Twitch Streams

[WereCatf]

2 hours ago, TheRobot said:

If you are looking for a viable alternative to Youtube, perhaps you should start looking at Peertube.

This kind of stuff has been attempted a billion times already and it largely fails because... most people don't want to let random people spend their bandwidth. Including me. Also, what if someone uploads child-porn or something on Peertube? Depending on your local laws, you could be held accountable for spreading the material!

[Ryujin2003]

21 hours ago, SC2Mitch said:

It's called Twitch, they have video tools now. 

I thought twitch removed your content after 2 weeks or something like that.

[ItsMitch]

22 minutes ago, Ryujin2003 said:

I thought twitch removed your content after 2 weeks or something like that.

Nope. Keep it for as long as you wish, as long as it's inside this area. 

 

[TheRobot]

1 hour ago, WereCatf said:

This kind of stuff has been attempted a billion times already and it largely fails because... most people don't want to let random people spend their bandwidth. Including me. Also, what if someone uploads child-porn or something on Peertube? Depending on your local laws, you could be held accountable for spreading the material!

A billion times? Where? I must live under a rock then because as far as I know, this project is unique. You must be mistaking it with something else that most likely has nothing to do, although if you have proofs that something like this already existed and failed, I'd love to hear about it.

 

>most people don't want to let random people spend their bandwidth.
The thing is that this project uses the BitTorrent protocol to save bandwidth. So you don't have to worry too much about it. Not to mention that, as I already explained, it's decentralized and you will not be the only one in the network serving content. Only your part of it.

>what if someone uploads child-porn or something
1. It gets moderated.
2. If it doesn't, every instance can block other instances to avoid situations like this.

 

This is something that has been implemented in other services such as Mastodon/Pleroma, and it works perfectly fine. These services, by the way, have been running for 2 years already. So it's not new and it's known to work.

 

>Depending on your local laws, you could be held accountable for spreading the material!
Well... you might have a forum, a imageboard, or even a chat, and still have this problem. Ask the people that runs mail servers how many mails from the FBI they get every day...

[Stefan Payne]

2 hours ago, TheRobot said:

A billion times? Where? I must live under a rock then because as far as I know, this project is unique.

Nope, there is another site wich uses Webtorrent -> Bitchute.

And they already have some of the bigger channels like Computing Forever, Styxhexenhammer666 (who is banned in most of Europe), Marc Dice and a couple of others.

[ZacoAttaco]

11 hours ago, mynameisjuan said:

Most sites dont allow any promotion for its competition. Are people this stupid? 

Yeah but the issue is it's also a hamfist attempt at trying to convince people to use YouTube Gaming. Most people who know what they're doing, wouldn't use YouTube Gaming because Twitch has a far better infrastructure around streaming. Either improve YouTube Gaming or people will use Twitch anyway.

 

YouTube should also be more consistent in their stand on the issues, you can't put it in the community guidelines/policy not enforce it for years and then suddenly decide now to enforce. It irritates the creators who bring in ad revenue.

 

It just comes across for a company as big as Alphabet and YouTube, they seem to be unorganised and slack. Linus on a recent WAN show said he only now has a community correspondent at YouTube. But they've been one of the biggest Tech channels for years now. And removing streaming rights because you're advertising Twitch it's just a completely redundant move 

 

It's within YouTube's rights to block promotion of competition, sure, but they need to be consistent regarding similar policies or guidelines or else it just irritates the creators which could lead to more issues long term.

[TheRobot]

11 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

Nope, there is another site wich uses Webtorrent -> Bitchute.

And they already have some of the bigger channels like Computing Forever, Styxhexenhammer666 (who is banned in most of Europe), Marc Dice and a couple of others.

Is it a decentralized service for hosting videos? An alternative to Youtube?
Nope

 

Also I just noticed upon further reading in their Git that they also use the WebSeed and WebRTC protocols.

 

People here was asking for an alternative to Youtube. I gave you one. What else do you people want? Are you waiting for a millionaire like Elon Musk to come up with his own video hosting and streaming service, for free and with absolute freedom? Dream on. Google (Or should I say, Alphabet Inc.) relies in this kind of corporative decisions to make money and keep their platforms at maximum profitableness. And any company developing a centralized platform will eventually do the exact same thing. Even Twitch is doing this kind of stuff.

 

What is the solution you want then?

 

The only way this can work is by decentralizing these services. Because this is the only way we can be in control of our content. Give a centralized service to a company or a corporation and this happens.

 

You can either keep whining about Google being Google all you want and stay in the same situation forever, or even worse. And you can change the CEO all the times you want, how many times did Microsoft change it's CEO already? And it's the same thing. Or you can move on, and accept new ideas instead of always trying to throw them away simply because you are afraid of new stuff. This one is already rolling and working, by the way. Check a list of instances of PeerTube, the ones with the check mark in the 'signup' field allows users to create an account and upload their content. Not happy with that? Run your own. Ah yeah... did I already mention it's FOSS?

 

Try it and see by yourself. And if you have any further questions, complains, or suggestions, I'd suggest you tell the developers themselves. Perhaps if we did that and we tried to be more helpful instead of criticizing, we could have nice things, you know...

Your move.