Air cooler vs liquid cooler

[Dinnerb0ne]

I have a ryzen cpu and I have tried to overclock it but my stock cooler is not good enough
so I'm looking to upgrade it. Most of the companies don't ship to my country so I have to buy from chinese companies. I have shortlisted two cpu coolers https://www.gearbest.com/cpu-cooler/pp_009813217505.htm... and https://www.gearbest.com/cpu-cooler/pp_009204433448.htm.... Is it worth paying the extra for the water cooler and which one would be a good buy?

[Christophe Corazza]

To be honest, I would NEVER buy an AIO from a manufacturer (Segotep in this case) that I don't know and where I can't find any additional information/reviews/etc. of. 

[thelordofwarr]

I would go for a beefy air cooler, as Christophe Corazza already said, I don't buy from misterious companies, especially aios

 

[Dinnerb0ne]

 

I found a review, it is of another model, but it is from the same company and what about the air cooler

[Christophe Corazza]

Just now, Dinnerb0ne said:

I found a review but it is of another model, but it is from the same company 

 

That mere one review says completely nothing about the reliability and failure rate of these devices.

On top of that, IF the cooler fails and leaks all over your components, I highly doubt Segotep will help you out.

[Dinnerb0ne]

1 minute ago, Christophe Corazza said:

 

That mere one review says completely nothing about the reliability and failure rate of these devices.

On top of that, IF the cooler fails and leaks all over your components, I highly doubt Segotep will help you out.

What about the air cooler? It has 5 heat pipes, but I could not find any reviews of it.

 

[Guest]

It's not like Ryzen is an exceptional overclocker anyway. I used to have an H80i but I came back to my good old Hyper 212 EVO. The cooling performance isn't that different and Air is way quieter. If you want to give OCing Ryzen a shot i'd get a Dark Rock Pro 4 or some beefy noctua aircooler.

[Dinnerb0ne]

As I said I can't ship the coolers to my country since the shipping cost is more than my budget. Plus I don't think a Ryzen 5 1400 needs a beefy cooler.

PS I forgot to mention my system's specs

Ryzen 5 1400 at 3.7ghz @1.35v

MSI b350 gaming pro

Corsair balistix 8gb ddr4 2400mhz ram

GTX 960 4gb vram

[Dinnerb0ne]

I have been looking for a  cheap air cooler for my ryzen 5 1400 at 3.7ghz @1.35v. Most of the companies don't ship to my country so I can't buy most of the coolers. My options are limited to https://www.gearbest.com/cpu-cooler/pp_009813217505.html?wid=1433363 or the Deepcool gammmaxx 200t. Which one should I buy?

[TVwazhere]

2 minutes ago, Dinnerb0ne said:

Most of the companies don't ship to my country 

It would be helpful if we knew what your country was

[Dinnerb0ne]

Kuwait

 

[Carbide X]

Pay 10 dollar more to get the 212 evo

[GoldenLag]

Just grab the cheapest tower cooler and maybe a fan if you want it to be more quiet. 

 

A noctua fan preferably

[xriqn]

212 evo or zalman cnps5x performa.

[Dinnerb0ne]

I can't ship them to kuwait

[Dinnerb0ne]

can you tell if this is good https://www.gearbest.com/cpu-cooler/pp_009813217505.html?wid=1433363

[Christophe Corazza]

8 minutes ago, Dinnerb0ne said:

What about the air cooler? It has 5 heat pipes, but I could not find any reviews of it.

 

Most 1400s should clock up to 3.7- 3.8 GHz from the reviews I've seen. But this depends if you are OK with CPU temperatures (of course this varies with the silicon lottery).

3.6 GHz seems to be the sweet spot with good temperatures (again, silicon lottery...).

 

1400 simply isn't worth getting in that situation unless you are either using the included stock cooler or have an old cooler that is compatible already.

For $ 20 more you can pick up 1500X that comes with bigger Wraith Spire, twice the cache and good stock clock speeds.

For $ 50 more you can pick up 1600 that also comes with a bigger stock cooler and 2 more cores.

With the cost of the cooler, you are better just getting the 1500x and use the stock Spire heatsink.

 

Nevertheless, if I really have to choose between the two coolers that you've mentioned, I would play it safe and go for the air cooler. At least this one won't be able to create a short circuit due to leaking coolant all over your components.

[Jihakuz]

It is hard to tell if a cooler is good just from looking at it. Try and get a Hyper 212 Evo, they're cheap and super good.

[Jurrunio]

40 minutes ago, Dinnerb0ne said:

can you tell if this is good https://www.gearbest.com/cpu-cooler/pp_009813217505.html?wid=1433363

5 copper heatpipes (small diameter, as expected), a single thin stack of fins (as expected from a cheap tower cooler), a single fan... At least it's better than the 200T, but hard to say how it performs relative to the 212 family of coolers. I'm sure it will work with a 1400 very well, just not sure if it's enough to keep a 1600 (which I suppose you will get as an upgrade in the future) cool.

 

5 minutes ago, Jihakuz said:

Try and get a Hyper 212 Evo, they're cheap and super good.

If you actually took time to check the site, you'd find out that it doesnt offer anything from common brands.

[Jihakuz]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

5 copper heatpipes (small diameter, as expected), a single thin stack of fins (as expected from a cheap tower cooler), a single fan... At least it's better than the 200T, but hard to say how it performs relative to the 212 family of coolers. I'm sure it will work with a 1400 very well, just not sure if it's enough to keep a 1600 (which I suppose you will get as an upgrade in the future) cool.

 

If you actually took time to check the site, you'd find out that it doesnt offer anything from common brands.

So you're saying the only website that has computer parts and ships to kuwait is this one?

 

Look:

https://www.pckuwait.com/product/cm-212-cpu-cooler-fan-hyper-series-cooler-master/

https://www.quadrastores.com/index.php/home/product_view/2486/Coolermaster-HYPER-212-LED-TURBO-Red

 

[Jurrunio]

3 minutes ago, Jihakuz said:

So you're saying the only website that has computer parts and ships to kuwait is this one?

There's a reason why he said this

 

46 minutes ago, Dinnerb0ne said:

I can't ship them to kuwait

 

[Jihakuz]

37 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

There's a reason why he said this

 

 

So the site “pckuwait” doesn’t ship to Kuwait?

[Jurrunio]

6 hours ago, Jihakuz said:

So the site “pckuwait” doesn’t ship to Kuwait?

equivalent of USD 53 for a hyper 212, ouch

[Christophe Corazza]

 

9 hours ago, Jihakuz said:

So the site “pckuwait” doesn’t ship to Kuwait?

 

2 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

equivalent of USD 53 for a hyper 212, ouch

 

I go to the Kuwait version of eBay, I type in ‘CPU cooler’ an I get 4546 hits, most of them are very reputable brands (that ship it Kuwait).

@Dinnerb0ne Perhaps you should have a look? ;-)

[LogicalDrm]

16 hours ago, Christophe Corazza said:

To be honest, I would NEVER buy an AIO from a manufacturer (Segotep in this case) that I don't know and where I can't find any additional information/reviews/etc. of. 

16 hours ago, Christophe Corazza said:

That mere one review says completely nothing about the reliability and failure rate of these devices.

On top of that, IF the cooler fails and leaks all over your components, I highly doubt Segotep will help you out.

 

Its Malaysian brand, and its products seems to have good reviews overall by customers. I'm pretty sure they use some OEM maker that also makes things for bigger brands, this is quite common in Asian markets. Warranty part isn't something I would rule out either. Bigger brands can claim that they do it, and still find loophole to not do it. Thats something home insurance covers anyway.

 

That site (Gearbeast) has really poor cooler selection with 120mm RGB cooler being best. Have you looked at other sites? I googled pc hardware kuwait and got some stores. This one looks promissing with brand products, but expensive. If you can search with arabic or terms you know might give better results. Don't count out brands you don't know. If you can get 140mm tower, that would be optimal. If not, anything close to Coolermaster 212, T4 or 412 spec wise will do.