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Is having an ssd more important than better cpu performance?

Ok, so I've got some money leftover that I can use to juice up my new PC build and I was thinking whether i should get a 480GB SSD, upgrade to an i7 from an i5 (might have to look for good deals though) or an extra 8GB stick of RAM.

 

Please help me decide.

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give us your full specs first

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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That depends on what you're looking for. For general more responsiveness and faster load times an SSD is the way to go. If your CPU is a bottleneck in games then a faster CPU would help that. If you need more RAM for a task that requires it then you can buy RAM.

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6 minutes ago, Indominus-Rex said:

Ok, so I've got some money leftover that I can use to juice up my new PC build and I was thinking whether i should get a 480GB SSD, upgrade to an i7 from an i5 (might have to look for good deals though) or an extra 8GB stick of RAM.

The i5 to i7 will be minimal. The ram is pretty good to upgrade. The SSD is great for start and load times. You'll see better performance in different areas depending on each upgrade. The SSD and RAM will be the better ones.

 
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4 minutes ago, MaxBunny said:

The i5 to i7 will be minimal.

how can you even compare without knowing which i5 and i7 specifically?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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16 minutes ago, Windows7ge said:

That depends on what you're looking for. For general more responsiveness and faster load times an SSD is the way to go. If your CPU is a bottleneck in games then a faster CPU would help that. If you need more RAM for a task that requires it then you can buy RAM.

Like @Windows7ge said, it all depends on what you need it for.

 

Are you doing a lot of copying/accessing files on your PC?

 

Are you gaming for intense and extensive sessions on your PC?

 

Do you just use it to browse the internet and have a lot of tabs open?

 

 

These are the type of things you need to consider in order to make your money to performance ratio worthwhile. 

 

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The i5 to i7 will be minimal

Sorry buddy, but without knowing which CPUs the OP is referring to, let alone wants to upgrade to, that makes that statement irrelevant for now. (Until OP releases their specs).

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45 minutes ago, Netivity said:

Sorry buddy, but without knowing which CPUs the OP is referring to, let alone wants to upgrade to, that makes that statement irrelevant for now. (Until OP releases their specs).

 

1 hour ago, RobFRaschke said:

Can we get more info on the exact specs of your system, or proposed system?

 

1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

give us your full specs first

Relevant specs;

i5 8400

Asus Prime H310M-K

G.Skill Aegis DDR4 2666mhz

GTX 1060 6gb (or a GTX 2060 if nvidia releases it this year)

1TB Seagate barracuda 

 

P.S. the upgrade for the CPU would be an i7 8700 non k version or any new Intel offerings of the same performance if they release any this year.

 

Thanks for the advice so far guys!

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@Indominus-Rex

 

Could you also let us know what you mainly use your PC for?

 

Would help us help you make a decision. :) 

 

Cheers

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10 minutes ago, Netivity said:

@Indominus-Rex

 

Could you also let us know what you mainly use your PC for?

 

Would help us help you make a decision. :) 

 

Cheers

I don't do much copying or file transfering but i certainly do plan to game for long hours and light editing work like Photoshop and video editing. For me, I usually look at the CPU and GPU first since to me those are the most important aspects of a PC but i might be mistaken so i'm not sure. Thats why I'm here for help. Also the first time i even considered getting an SSD was when I used my friends PC and his games took so painfully long to load that it felt like a chore opening and closing games so there's that.

 

But thanks for taking the time to help me out :)

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I don't care what he's using it for, if he's having to wait for boot times and load times off a HDD with i5-8400 with a GTX1060, he needs a SSD. Seriously, decent boot/some program drives are $80-100. Decent 1TB SSDs are right about the same price as a i7-8700. A samsung 960 Pro 512GB is less than the i7-8700.

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1. You shoulc consider a Ryzen 7, 2600 or 2700

2. A PC w/o an SSD isn't really a PC.

So that's a MUST!

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1 hour ago, WikiForce said:

i would suggest an SSD, 6 cores are more than enough for most tasks.

 

I think you can buy a 256gb ssd and also get a cheap used 8gb stick.

Yea, i probably can, I'll look into it.

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1 hour ago, RobFRaschke said:

I don't care what he's using it for, if he's having to wait for boot times and load times off a HDD with i5-8400 with a GTX1060, he needs a SSD. Seriously, decent boot/some program drives are $80-100. Decent 1TB SSDs are right about the same price as a i7-8700. A samsung 960 Pro 512GB is less than the i7-8700.

OP, sorry for going a bit off topic here.

 

@RobFRaschke

 

I understand that you don't care what he uses to make your recommendation - To each their own.

 

I however, do care what he uses his computer for, as that would allow me to make a recommendation that is most beneficial for his system, and his daily tasks.

 

I would never recommend something to a client without finding out what the client is using the system for, what they want improvements for, and what their daily tasks are - This can cause dissatisfaction with the client, and backlash onto me. And I follow those procedures with topics like this to ensure that I have helped the user as best as I could. 

 

I do however, thank you for your input, and I respect your opinion regardless.

 

 

[BACK ON TOPIC]

 

OP:

 

If you have concerns of your games taking long to load etc. An SSD would be a better option. 

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7 minutes ago, Netivity said:

 

@RobFRaschke

 

I understand that you don't care what he uses to make your recommendation - To each their own.

 

I however, do care what he uses his computer for, as that would allow me to make a recommendation that is most beneficial for his system, and his daily tasks.

 

I would never recommend something to a client without finding out what the client is using the system for, what they want improvements for, and what their daily tasks are - This can cause dissatisfaction with the client, and backlash onto me. And I follow those procedures with topics like this to ensure that I have helped the user as best as I could. 

That's entirely fair, however there comes a point that regardless of work load, a single bottleneck in latency and throughput becomes glaringly obvious. This is exactly such a case IMHO.

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2 hours ago, Indominus-Rex said:

 

 

Relevant specs;

i5 8400

Asus Prime H310M-K

G.Skill Aegis DDR4 2666mhz

GTX 1060 6gb (or a GTX 2060 if nvidia releases it this year)

1TB Seagate barracuda 

 

P.S. the upgrade for the CPU would be an i7 8700 non k version or any new Intel offerings of the same performance if they release any this year.

 

Thanks for the advice so far guys!

~500GB SSD first, RAM next, then graphics card (1080 level performance), last CPU. 8400 is quite good of a CPU, it can stay for longer.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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And you can get an SSD instead of a HDD.

 

Adding a HDD to a system is easy.
Adding an SSD is not because you have to reinstall the operating system...

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5 hours ago, Indominus-Rex said:

Ok, so I've got some money leftover that I can use to juice up my new PC build and I was thinking whether i should get a 480GB SSD, upgrade to an i7 from an i5 (might have to look for good deals though) or an extra 8GB stick of RAM.

 

Please help me decide.

If you want to know how you'd feel running the pc, SSD will be a way way better option than an upgrade to i7

Main system (Mini itx 80mm)

i5-7500 | Asrock h110m | Noctua L9i | Realan H80 Case | 8GB 2400 Ram ADATA | M600 SSD | 500 GB Seagate

 

Other System (Laptop)

i7 3632QM | Toshiba | 8GB Corsair VS RAM | Sandisk SSD PLUS | 500GB Toshiba HDD

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