GPU for 144Hz 1440p monitor

[HeadShotz]

I'm pretty sure this question has already been asked here too many times, but I want to be sure.

I just bought Dell S2716D, and I have pretty much old graphics card (GTX 550ti) so I want to get a new one but I don't know which should I get,

I have pretty old CPU as well, I have I7 4770 (non-K) and for the next half year I'm not going to upgrade it, for now, I want to get only a new graphics card.

I want to start playing BF1, Rise of the Tomb rider and PUBG, I don't want to play on the highest settings (high or a little bit lower its ok for me)

So I thought to buy a GTX 1080, but as I saw on other forums and over here the best for 144Hz 1440p is to have GTX 1080 Ti,

so the big question is if should I get the Ti and I will not have bottlenecks with the CPU I have now (till I will upgrade it).

I have the budget to buy the Ti, or the best is to wait for till Nvidia will launch the new graphics card (as I understood its more couple months).

So what is the best to do right now?

[HugoPilot]

As for GPUs, IDK. My Vega order was cancelled a few weeks ago so I decided to wait till the new Volta cards come out. But NVIDIA decided to not release anything (yet), so I am also waiting.

[HOOTSMON]

1080 is fine for low settings at 1440, a 1070 would even do in most cases. If you want to play high/ultra you have to get a 1080ti and even then some games wont reach 144hz. I had a 1070 before my 1080ti with an 3440x1440 ultrawide (3k) and it was definitely serviceable. I would get the 1080ti and look forward to the CPU upgrade.

 

Nvidia probably isnt releasing anything soon, the thing with PC gaming is being stuck in a perpetual state of waiting for the next best thing so if you can buy a 1080ti now just do it. you will be smiling from ear to ear believe me. 

[HeadShotz]

Just now, HOOTSMON said:

1080 is fine for low settings at 1440, a 1070 would even do in most cases. If you want to play high/ultra you have to get a 1080ti and even then some games wont reach 144hz. I had a 1070 before my 1080ti with an 3440x1440 ultrawide (3k) and it was definitely serviceable. I would get the 1080ti and look forward to the CPU upgrade.

But till I will upgrade (not sure exactly when it will happen)  I will have issues with my CPU to get the most of the TI?

And if i get the TI i should OC it? 

[WereCat]

Even 1080ti struggles to hit 144FPS on Ultra in many games at 1440p.

That said, anything from 1070 or better will be fine for most games on Medium/High settings.

1060 6GB/1050ti will handle e-sport titles just fine as well.

 

But yeah, going 1080 or 1080ti is definitely recommended if you want to keep graphics settings as high as you can while still pushing enough FPS.

[HugoPilot]

@HOOTSMON The reason I want to wait is because of RTX

[HOOTSMON]

On 5/17/2018 at 2:44 PM, HeadShotz said:

But till I will upgrade (not sure exactly when it will happen)  I will have issues with my CPU to get the most of the TI?

And if i get the TI i should OC it? 

It may but the jump in performance will still be huge. Either you buy CPU and GPU and maybe RAM all at the same time or you stagger it. Thats what everyone does.  At the end of the upgrade cycle what do you want to have? Imagine you get a 1060 to better match your CPU now then get a better CPU later that would run a 1080ti better..."should i have got the 1080ti in the first place?"

 

On 5/17/2018 at 2:48 PM, HugoPilot said:

@HOOTSMON The reason I want to wait is because of RTX

That nice but Im here to help HeadShotz. Direct your recommendations to him as he has requested. (dont mean to sound rude but c'mon man lol)

 

On 5/17/2018 at 2:44 PM, HeadShotz said:

And if i get the TI i should OC it? 

OC the shit out of it!

[HugoPilot]

6 minutes ago, HOOTSMON said:

That nice but Im here to help HeadShotz. Direct your recommendations to him as he has requested. (dont mean to sound rude but c'mon man lol)

Yeah true

 

[HeadShotz]

3 minutes ago, HOOTSMON said:

It may but the jump in performance will still be huge. Either you buy CPU and GPU and maybe RAM all at the same time or you stagger it. Thats what everyone does.  At the end of the upgrade cycle what do you want to have? Imagine you get a 1060 to better match your CPU now then get a better CPU later that would run a 1080ti better..."should i have got the 1080ti in the first place?"

im probably will buy 8700K or 8600k or 8700 depends on what will be my budget this time but i sure i will buy them together, i just want to enjoy the monitor i just got and also not to buy in the future new graphics card if i will get the 1060 or 1070.

[HOOTSMON]

20 minutes ago, HeadShotz said:

im probably will buy 8700K or 8600k or 8700 depends on what will be my budget this time but i sure i will buy them together, i just want to enjoy the monitor i just got and also not to buy in the future new graphics card if i will get the 1060 or 1070.

SO GO BUY A 1080TI ALREADY! HA

[Jaggsta]

1 hour ago, HOOTSMON said:

Nvidia probably isnt releasing anything soon, the thing with PC gaming is being stuck in a perpetual state of waiting for the next best thing so if you can buy a 1080ti now just do it. you will be smiling from ear to ear believe me. 

New Architecture comes every 2 years 1070,1080 is 2 years old this month they already released Titan V. New gaming cards are just months away

[Mick Naughty]

1080 will kill that cpu on bf1. And the card does ok on pubg at 1080, didn't like it at 1440 but it was doable. Id go 1080ti if you are gonna get it any time soon. 

Will make it harder for the cpu on bf1 but wont be an issue when you upgrade that cpu. 

 

New cards are maybe months away. Wouldn't bet on it yet. Hope they are a let down like the 10 series.

[Zeitec]

2 hours ago, HeadShotz said:

 

For 1440p high settings 144fps it's the 1080ti or bust. Nothing else comes close. I know. I have a 1080. It's a fantastic 60fps 1440p ultra card. High settings it sits around 100fps in AAA games. You'd need to turn it down to low to get 144fps at 1440p on a GTX 1080.

[WereCat]

46 minutes ago, Zeitec said:

For 1440p high settings 144fps it's the 1080ti or bust. Nothing else comes close. I know. I have a 1080. It's a fantastic 60fps 1440p ultra card. High settings it sits around 100fps in AAA games. You'd need to turn it down to low to get 144fps at 1440p on a GTX 1080.

Low? Come on... my 1050 2GB can run most games at 100FPS+ on 1440p LOW.

[AngelOfBodom]

13 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Low? Come on... my 1050 2GB can run most games at 100FPS+ on 1440p LOW.

Ive been trying to.keep up on informative opinions, and this is why I'm confused and debating on returning the 1080 and 1440/144 monitor I bought. Same boat as OP but don't think a 1080ti is worth the premium atm. 

[Zeitec]

1 hour ago, WereCat said:

Low? Come on... my 1050 2GB can run most games at 100FPS+ on 1440p LOW.

I have a 1080 and a 144hz monitor that I used to try to saturate in AAA games. Games don't scale down very well. I can run some benchmarks if you don't believe me. 

 

Edit: Just ran Witcher 3. Got around 150fps low settings with AO and AA turned off.

[AngelOfBodom]

2 minutes ago, Zeitec said:

I have a 1080 and a 144hz monitor that I used to try to saturate in AAA games. Games don't scale down very well. I can run some benchmarks if you don't believe me. 

Do you think a 1080 for running esports (overwatch specifically) at 1440p@144 is doable? 

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

A 1070. Nothing more is worth the money *looks at 1080 Ti* and it'll run most AAA type stuff at 100+ FPS anyway

 

[Zeitec]

On 5/17/2018 at 6:58 PM, AngelOfBodom said:

Do you think a 1080 for running esports (overwatch specifically) at 1440p@144 is doable? 

My 1080 runs at about 200fps on high with an i7 8700, so yeah it'll do 144 on ultra most likely. Even a 1070 could do high settings 144fps, and a 1060 6gb could do medium 144fps. You only need a 1080ti to run 144fps at 1440p if you're playing AAA games like The Witcher 3, Call of Duty WWII, Battlefield 1, Ghost Recon Wildlands, ect. 

 

On 5/17/2018 at 7:01 PM, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

A 1070. Nothing more is worth the money *looks at 1080 Ti* and it'll run most AAA type stuff at 100+ FPS anyway

GTA 5 is 4 years old at this point, and wasn't particularily demanding for the GPU even when it was new. I can tell you from experience: my 1080 doesn't run AAA games at 144fps on high settings at 1440p. It'll do it at low, but then games are really ugly and you'd be better served running at 1080p with higher detail settings. I literally just ran Witcher 3 (which is a GPU workout, but also 3 years old) and at low settings in Novigrad it ran at 150fps. 

 

Don't get me wrong, the 1070 is a FANTASTIC 1440p high/ultra 60fps card for AAA games(Witcher 3, Ghost Recon Wildlands, Call of Duty WWII, ect), and a FANTASTIC 1440p ultra 144fps card for esports titles (CS:GO, Dota 2, Overwatch, League of Legends, ect.). It is not a very good card for 1440p 144fps in AAA titles. There are too many sacrifices.It barely does it today on medium/low settings, so there is basically no future for the card. Within 12 months you'll be struggling to hit 144fps at 1440p no matter what you do. 

[AngelOfBodom]

1 minute ago, Zeitec said:

My 1080 runs at about 200fps on high with an i7 8700, so yeah it'll do 144 on ultra most likely. Even a 1070 could do high settings 144fps, and a 1060 6gb could do medium 144fps. You only need a 1080ti to run 144fps at 1440p if you're playing AAA games like The Witcher 3, Call of Duty WWII, Battlefield 1, Ghost Recon Wildlands, ect. 

Thank you! There is A LOT of contradicting information on 1440p 144hz. I don't mind running 60 for AAA (the only one I'm concerned about is Monster Hunter). It seems silly to upgrade my 980ti, but its had instability issues with OCs (not temps, though). idk

[Zeitec]

On 5/17/2018 at 7:05 PM, AngelOfBodom said:

Thank you! There is A LOT of contradicting information on 1440p 144hz. I don't mind running 60 for AAA (the only one I'm concerned about is Monster Hunter). It seems silly to upgrade my 980ti, but its had instability issues with OCs (not temps, though). idk

If you have a 980ti, even at stock, there's nothing worth upgrading to ATM except for a 1080ti. An OC 1070 will only be abour 10-15% faster than a stock 980ti, and an OC 1080 will only be about 30-40% faster than a stock 980ti. The 1080ti will be about 70% faster, so that's more interesting, but yeah. You can if you want. However honestly if you already have a 980ti I'd wait for the new gpus coming out this fall, or get a 1080ti. 

 

That's your choice though. It's your money. If $500 for a 1070 is worth a 15% performance jump, that's your business. However that's a very poor value for the money. 

 

On 5/17/2018 at 7:01 PM, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

 

Also notice that even in that 4 year old game that isn't super demanding on the GPU, it still doesn't hit 144fps. It gets 100fps. You need to turn the settings down to medium/low to get 144fps. That's a massive sacrifice to get 144fps. 

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

10 minutes ago, Zeitec said:

GTA 5 is 4 years old at this point, and wasn't particularily demanding for the GPU even when it was new. I can tell you from experience: my 1080 doesn't run AAA games at 144fps on high settings at 1440p. It'll do it at low, but then games are really ugly and you'd be better served running at 1080p with higher detail settings. I literally just ran Witcher 3 (which is a GPU workout, but also 3 years old) and at low settings in Novigrad it ran at 150fps. 

 

Don't get me wrong, the 1070 is a FANTASTIC 1440p high/ultra 60fps card for AAA games(Witcher 3, Ghost Recon Wildlands, Call of Duty WWII, ect), and a FANTASTIC 1440p ultra 144fps card for esports titles (CS:GO, Dota 2, Overwatch, League of Legends, ect.). It is not a very good card for 1440p 144fps in AAA titles. There are too many sacrifices.It barely does it today on medium/low settings, so there is basically no future for the card. Within 12 months you'll be struggling to hit 144fps at 1440p no matter what you do. 

But 144 is only neccesary for eSports stuff. If you have a Gsync panel it'll be an awesome experience

[Zeitec]

1 minute ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

But 144 is only neccesary for eSports stuff. If you have a Gsync panel it'll be an awesome experience

That's a personal choice. To some people 30fps is fine for games. I'm just saying what the 1070 is and isn't capable of. It's fantastic for 1440p 144fps esports, 1440p 60fps AAA, or 1080p 100fps AAA. 

[HOOTSMON]

so yeah, 1080ti it is then 

 

On 5/17/2018 at 7:19 PM, Zeitec said:

That's a personal choice. To some people 30fps is fine for games. I'm just saying what the 1070 is and isn't capable of. It's fantastic for 1440p 144fps esports, 1440p 60fps AAA, or 1080p 100fps AAA. 

1440p 60fps in most, but at max settings in games like AC Origins no.

[stealth80]

21 hours ago, HOOTSMON said:

1080 is fine for low settings at 1440, a 1070 would even do in most cases. If you want to play high/ultra you have to get a 1080ti and even then some games wont reach 144hz. I had a 1070 before my 1080ti with an 3440x1440 ultrawide (3k) and it was definitely serviceable. I would get the 1080ti and look forward to the CPU upgrade.

Just because it can do 144hz doesn't mean it has to, that's the whole point in Gsync. My 1080 on a 144hz gsync is perfectly, however with that said …..

 

21 hours ago, HeadShotz said:

I'm pretty sure this question has already been asked here too many times, but I want to be sure.

I just bought Dell S2716D, and I have pretty much old graphics card (GTX 550ti) so I want to get a new one but I don't know which should I get,

I have pretty old CPU as well, I have I7 4770 (non-K) and for the next half year I'm not going to upgrade it, for now, I want to get only a new graphics card.

I want to start playing BF1, Rise of the Tomb rider and PUBG, I don't want to play on the highest settings (high or a little bit lower its ok for me)

So I thought to buy a GTX 1080, but as I saw on other forums and over here the best for 144Hz 1440p is to have GTX 1080 Ti,

so the big question is if should I get the Ti and I will not have bottlenecks with the CPU I have now (till I will upgrade it).

I have the budget to buy the Ti, or the best is to wait for till Nvidia will launch the new graphics card (as I understood its more couple months).

So what is the best to do right now?

Right now just sit on it and wait on new cards, it wouldn't be a little short sighted to spend $800 2 months before more powerful cards arrive