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14 hours ago, Some Random Member said:

Well the problem with that is that with a console you have to pay 2 times for online, and also games are much more expensive, so will you actually save?

For example with pc you can play online games for free, when with consoles you have to pay the expensive microsoft gold and sony whatever subscriptions. Also no steam summersale/ humble bundle, only retail price games.

ACTUALLY. that is only with ps4, which you would know if you had actually looked into it, really at all.

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2 hours ago, xXxAdamxXx said:

I mean, two modules of 4 underclocked cores, it's a slower version of the A10 which you can build a budget PC around, at best the custom API is spreading tasks out to make up for the lack of CPU power.

 

Also games aren't really the go-to piece of software for parallel processing, most of the time the CPU is just telling the GPU what to fetch.

actually no. jaguar is an entirely different thing from the A10

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14 hours ago, App4that said:

That's a tough question because there isn't one. The 8 core jaguar in the modern consoles don't have Windows to worry about, and are heavily optimized for. 

actually the jaguar cpus i believe were opterons. https://www.amd.com/en-us/who-we-are/corporate-information/history EDIT:apu's. i feel like they were perhaps opteron x processors married with maybe 6770 graphics?

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1 hour ago, Grockle88 said:

actually the jaguar cpus i believe were opterons. https://www.amd.com/en-us/who-we-are/corporate-information/history EDIT:apu's. i feel like they were perhaps opteron x processors married with maybe 6770 graphics?

They weren't. Jaguar is the name of the architecture itself.

 

There's no reason to stick a server processor in consumer electronics.

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7 hours ago, M.Yurizaki said:

They weren't. Jaguar is the name of the architecture itself.

 

There's no reason to stick a server processor in consumer electronics.

the specs for the processors had nearly the exact same specs.

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21 hours ago, App4that said:

That's a fallacy, I have all three consoles and pay nothing in online services, still play online as well. Free to play games require no online subscription. 

Uhhh Its not Really. if you buy say COD on PC you get to play online with out spending any other money. Buy it on PS or Xbox and you MUST have a Subscription to XBL or PS Plus. Which range from sites like CDkeys or other non direct places $35ish to the retail of  $60 a year and single months of about $10 if you pay that way. 

 

I Own PS4 Xbox One Switch & a Gaming PC. Typically ill just buy the one or three months when i get into a game on console as i know i wont play that one all year with the variety of ones i own my self. 

 

the Few free games might have free online  but if you buy any games which 99.99999% of people who buy a console to game will do they will have to pay to play online at one point. there are promos for new people and Free weekends here and there. 

 

 

Back on Topic

Personally i Still Think consoles can be cheaper and even in the long run not a bad buy. IF your really on a TIGHT budget get a xbox one S or PS4 Slim  You can pick them up for under $199 and it plays every game out on the consoles and for the foreseeable future will get all future releases. and that price comes with a controller.  you get a lot for that price and is the way to go if you dont have the money for a PC especially if you have a TV you can use already.  Yeah you can use the PC on the TV but your going to want to utilize the actual pc with the monitor and you'll have to buy a Keyboard & mouse separately along with the Monitor. 

 

The PC is imo the better route but not if you dont have the money to enjoy all/ some the extras the PC can bring to the table 

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3 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

console has a function most pc`s doesnt have these days. it is called a bluray player, ever hear of it? therefore Console provides the supirior bluray experience.

Not only that, but all consoles with Bluray have every licence needed to play Bluray out of the box. One just needs to download the player for XBOne.

 

Whereas freeware for PCs is a crapshoot on which discs play, and some payware is not much better.

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@GoldenLag B-but a Pc can have a blueRay player added to it. No one cares about it because quite a lot of people wear the Black hat and matching Eye patch. so they don't need physical copies due the their..... Other methods.

 

Being someone that has both a console and Pc I sway more to the Console due to Functionality and ease of use, Quick start up and i'm away to play games. while with a pc it relies on many factors, Your pc wanting to work, what communication platform you are gonna use etc. Plus my Pc mates usually in different time zones so that sucks....

Some people prefer a challenge, I just band my head against a wall until my method works...

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8 hours ago, Grockle88 said:

ACTUALLY. that is only with ps4, which you would know if you had actually looked into it, really at all.

Actually. Its Xbox Live Gold, And Playstation Plus.... and Nintendo will be rolling out this year But will be about 1/2 the cost of the competition.

 

I have all 3 and a PC...

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2 minutes ago, Alex Colson said:

Plus my Pc mates usually in different time zones so that sucks....

yep that internationality in pc community sucks sometimes. i had the same issue on console for a while. 

 

5 minutes ago, Alex Colson said:

so they don't need physical copies due the their..... Other methods.

damn didnt know they had astral projected copies of Cars 3

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6 minutes ago, Alex Colson said:

@GoldenLag B-but a Pc can have a blueRay player added to it. No one cares about it because quite a lot of people wear the Black hat and matching Eye patch. so they don't need physical copies due the their..... Other methods.

That's a $100+ purchase for a decent new player, and you have to add more for software that'll play it all.

 

Whereas the XBOne S and X have 4K Bluray players and all the licensing needed.

Come Bloody Angel

Break off your chains

And look what I've found in the dirt.

 

Pale battered body

Seems she was struggling

Something is wrong with this world.

 

Fierce Bloody Angel

The blood is on your hands

Why did you come to this world?

 

Everybody turns to dust.

 

Everybody turns to dust.

 

The blood is on your hands.

 

The blood is on your hands!

 

Pyo.

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7 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

That's a $100+ purchase for a decent new player, and you have to add more for software that'll play it all.

 

Whereas the XBOne S and X have 4K Bluray players and all the licensing needed.

i would say this is a great advantage to anyone who wants a 4k bluray player. But id also Say this is probably less the 5% of people who are looking to play games. 

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7 minutes ago, michaelocarroll007 said:

i would say this is a great advantage to anyone who wants a 4k bluray player. But id also Say this is probably less the 5% of people who are looking to play games. 

With a samplesize of 1 i can determin it is actually 100%. Consoles are pretty much the best diskreaders you can get for the price

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1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

With a samplesize of 1 i can determin it is actually 100%. Consoles are pretty much the best diskreaders you can get for the price

Just because its the best you can get for the price doesnt mean people who buy it for gaming care or will ever put a 4k blu ray in the machine. 

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22 hours ago, Ques2.0 said:

Since GPU prices are expensive at this time would it be a good idea to consider console gaming

If you buy prebuilt the prices aren't nearly as inflated if you do it yourself, however if you have say £500 for a build for that budget Console gaming might be better for you

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1 hour ago, michaelocarroll007 said:

Actually. Its Xbox Live Gold, And Playstation Plus.... and Nintendo will be rolling out this year But will be about 1/2 the cost of the competition.

 

I have all 3 and a PC...

xbox live gold is not required to play online.

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21 minutes ago, Grockle88 said:

xbox live gold is not required to play online.

Yes. Yes it is. Do you game share with someone ? cause if so your probably just leeching off there gold. Or do you not own the console?

 

Source: Scroll to the bottom chart.....................

https://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/gold  

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11 hours ago, michaelocarroll007 said:

Yes. Yes it is. Do you game share with someone ? cause if so your probably just leeching off there gold. Or do you not own the console?

 

Source: Scroll to the bottom chart.....................

https://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/gold  

my dad owns the console, however im 99 percent certain he doesn't have to pay for it either. maybe its a lucky glitch?

nm, i just asked him, he does. :/

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49 minutes ago, Grockle88 said:

xbox live gold is not required to play online.

The entire Xbox family, and the PS4, require premium service for games that use any part if Microsoft/Sony's serviced (usually match making). There are a few games that don't require XBL Gold or PS+, such as Happy Wars.

Come Bloody Angel

Break off your chains

And look what I've found in the dirt.

 

Pale battered body

Seems she was struggling

Something is wrong with this world.

 

Fierce Bloody Angel

The blood is on your hands

Why did you come to this world?

 

Everybody turns to dust.

 

Everybody turns to dust.

 

The blood is on your hands.

 

The blood is on your hands!

 

Pyo.

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1 hour ago, Drak3 said:

The entire Xbox family, and the PS4, require premium service for games that use any part if Microsoft/Sony's serviced (usually match making). There are a few games that don't require XBL Gold or PS+, such as Happy Wars.

what about GTA v?

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CrumpleBox V3:  Xeon X5680  -  Asus X58 Sabertooth  -  DDr3 16GB@1.33Ghz  -  Gigabyte 1660s -  TT smart RGB 700W  -  

Cooler Master Storm Trooper  -  120GB Samsung 850 Pro   -  LTT Edition Chromax NH-D15 ?

 

CrumpleBox 3 ROTF: I5-6400  -  MSI B150m Mortar  -  16GB 2133Mhz Vengeance Pro RGB  -  Strix 1070Ti - GTX 1070 FE  -  Adata 128GB SSD  -  Fractal Design Define C  -  Gammaxx 400V2  -  Cooler Master silent pro gold 1000W

CrumpleBox 2: i7-7820x - MSI X299 Raider - 32GB Thermaltake Toughram 3.6Ghz - 2x Sapphire Nitro Fury - 128GB PCie Adata SSD - O11 Dynamic - EVGA CLC 360 - Corsair RM1000X

 

Perhiperals:  Gateway 900p60 monitor  -  Dell 1024x768@75  -  Logi. G403 Carbon  -  Logi. G502  -  SteSer. Arctis 5  -  SteSer. Rival 110 - Corsair Strafe RGB MK.2

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Grockle88 said:

what about GTA v?

Gotta have PS+ OR XBL Gold

Come Bloody Angel

Break off your chains

And look what I've found in the dirt.

 

Pale battered body

Seems she was struggling

Something is wrong with this world.

 

Fierce Bloody Angel

The blood is on your hands

Why did you come to this world?

 

Everybody turns to dust.

 

Everybody turns to dust.

 

The blood is on your hands.

 

The blood is on your hands!

 

Pyo.

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