Are Ryzen CPU's bottlenecking high end GPU's?

[stealth80]

5 minutes ago, App4that said:

My guess is about 40%, but that's a nit I'm picking at. I'll probably get tazed for saying it but Nvidia is kinda held back by Radeon right now. If a 1170 matched a 1080ti, a 1170 would beat any AMD card. We're talking a market where AMD's best card, trades blows with a 1160. Only this time it's not a midrange card from AMD, but their flagship. 

 

My guess is a refresh, and Nvidia holding onto their stronger architectures until Radeon gets it together. 

Its speculation and I agree with your reasoning, look at Intels marginal improvements until Ryzen came along. But for me, they would want to try and encourage people jump from 1080ti to new flagship, and 10% (assuming 1080ti is +30% on vanilla 1080) wouldn't make me ditch a £700 GPU for another £600. 

[M300843499]

1 minute ago, Phentos said:

I responded to that statement made by you about everyone not caring about high refresh rates being in "denial", and then gave my opinion about Ryzen vs Intel purchasing decisions afterward.

 

So for those reasons I felt it was an appropriate response lol.

Lost in translation, this should be a meme.

[Phentos]

Just now, M300843499 said:

Lost in translation, this should be a meme.

So you say.

[App4that]

1 minute ago, stealth80 said:

Its speculation and I agree with your reasoning, look at Intels marginal improvements until Ryzen came along. But for me, they would want to try and encourage people jump from 1080ti to new flagship, and 10% wouldn't make me ditch a £700 GPU for another £600. 

Pretty safe to say a 1180ti would be a year away, look at the jump between a 1080 and 1080ti compared to a 980 and 980ti. Hell, look at the difference between a 980ti and 1080ti. 

 

DDR6 will be enough to push adoption, the 1180ti held onto for if Radeon can lift it's head up, just like how the 1080ti was used. 

[DarkSmith2]

3 minutes ago, stealth80 said:

sure, 121/100x 51 = (51%) = 61.71 +121 = 182.71 rounded up is 183

 

i know how to use it as well 

yup 1180 something about ~10-15% faster than a 1080ti sounds reasonable. Its been like this for a long time.

[stealth80]

1 minute ago, App4that said:

Pretty safe to say a 1180ti would be a year away, look at the jump between a 1080 and 1080ti compared to a 980 and 980ti. Hell, look at the difference between a 980ti and 1080ti. 

 

DDR6 will be enough to push adoption, the 1180ti held onto for if Radeon can lift it's head up, just like how the 1080ti was used. 

 

1 minute ago, DarkSmith2 said:

yup 1180 something about ~10-15% faster than a 1080ti sounds reasonable. Its been like this for a long time.

To be fair I forgot about my own reason for waiting on 11XX - Ray Tracing - that could be enough to tempt adopters with a lower than normal speed gain (taking @App4that point about lack of AMD competition) 

[App4that]

28 minutes ago, stealth80 said:

 

To be fair I forgot about my own reason for waiting on 11XX - Ray Tracing - that could be enough to tempt adopters with a lower than normal speed gain (taking @App4that point about lack of AMD competition) 

Ray Tracing is interesting, but won't see adoption before consoles can make use of it. Not likely anyway. Best guess is 2-3 years before a new console as the Xbox One X already carries as much GPU power as is avalible.