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GPU vs CPU Investment Build?

Morning or Afternoon, (UK)

 

I'm at a crossroads with a new build and unsure of the diminishing returns of investment with GPU and CPU combo.

 

Current Intel Build £1700 ($2437) - Z370 Chipset, 960 NVME, 16G DDR4 3000Mhz, Hydro Cooling, 650W Modular PSU, 1440P 100Mhz Monitor.

 

Choice 1: 11GB GEFORCE GTX 1080 Ti costing £758 (MSRP £629) with an i3-8350k (4.0GHz) (£150) Costing Total: £908 ($1301)

 

Choice 2: 8GB ASUS ROG STRIX GEFORCE GTX 1080 costing £573 (MSRP £529) with an i7-8700k (3.7GHz) £270 Costing Total: £843 ($1208)

 

I'm planning on using my PC for light streaming, Ultra High Graphics in RTS like Anno 1800 and Anno 2205, I might try PUBG not sure.

 

Don't care about RGB, using PC Specialist for the build as you can get the GPU near MSRP.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Go for choice 2. I dont think the benefits from a 1080ti will outweigh the disadvantages of the i4 procesor. and with choice 2 you have a more balanced loadout which should give you less bottlenecks from the cpu

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That 'current intel build' parts still in planning phase?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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At 1440p, the i3 probably wont be a bottleneck for the 1080ti, but since you plan to stream (even light streaming...) I go with option #2 (8700k+1080)

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1 hour ago, FSopDesigns said:

Go for choice 2. I dont think the benefits from a 1080ti will outweigh the disadvantages of the i4 procesor. and with choice 2 you have a more balanced loadout which should give you less bottlenecks from the cpu

I was thinking that but have read and watched comments on RTS and most games not utilizing more than 4 cores because tech hasn't caught up yet. So 6% higher MHz on the single core performance for £190 more I'm not to sure. Multi core yes us 46% higher but I won't be doing and 3D editing or much rendering. Still open to advice though.

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1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

That 'current intel build' parts still in planning phase?

No I haven't settled on those parts just yet, those are initial choices so far, could drop to the odler Z270 chipset, but not sure. Also till deciding 1440p vs 144Hhz, both would obviously be great. 

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i7 8700 locked with cheapest possible z370 and cheaper aftermarket cooling and a 1080 Ti xd. best value on high end.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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3 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

i7 8700 locked with cheapest possible z370 and cheaper aftermarket cooling and a 1080 Ti xd. best value on high end.

I would love to be able to get both that's a no brainier, it's deciding were to put the extra £190 into a processor or graphics card. Don't want the CPU bottle necking still unsure ¬¬. 

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1 minute ago, Scruffmanmills said:

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Can't you save to afford both the locked i7 and the 1080 Ti?

 

If you can't afford them might as well settle for the i5 8400 on the cheapest locked motherboard you can possible find and a GTX 1070 Ti overclocked:

You'll still have a very powerful gaming rig, for a lot less.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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29 minutes ago, Scruffmanmills said:

No I haven't settled on those parts just yet, those are initial choices so far, could drop to the odler Z270 chipset, but not sure. Also till deciding 1440p vs 144Hhz, both would obviously be great. 

Z270 doesnt support 8th gen CPUs, you have to use 300 chipsets.

 

Maybe use B360/H370 mobo (with heatsink on the VRMs, big ones are better), i7-8700 and a dirt cheap cooler instead, then put a 1080ti in there. If that's still too much money, drop the RAM to 8GB 2800-3200 and make sure there's still space for RAM upgrades.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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