Cheapest 12 Core Setup?

[ShadowChaser]

I'm currently using a 8 core desktop to render personal and school related videos, and I prefer to keep working while the videos are being rendered. This is an issue with my current setup as I use plenty of Adobe PS and AI and those programs eat up CPU like you wouldn't believe. I've been forced to dedicate at least 4 cores (a whole CPU!!!) to other programs while rendering and it slows down a lot. I'm considering moving to a 10 or more core server-ish build but I can't afford to go out and buy new parts. I'll likely sell my old workstation in order to fund the new one so it'll have to be able to multitask and not just a render node. 

 

What are your suggestions? I would like to go 1366 but I don't know much about that generation of servers (I'm still on 771)

[TVwazhere]

4 minutes ago, ShadowChaser said:

I'm currently using a 8 core desktop to render personal and school related videos, and I prefer to keep working while the videos are being rendered. This is an issue with my current setup as I use plenty of Adobe PS and AI and those programs eat up CPU like you wouldn't believe. I've been forced to dedicate at least 4 cores (a whole CPU!!!) to other programs while rendering and it slows down a lot. I'm considering moving to a 10 or more core server-ish build but I can't afford to go out and buy new parts. I'll likely sell my old workstation in order to fund the new one so it'll have to be able to multitask and not just a render node. 

 

What are your suggestions? I would like to go 1366 but I don't know much about that generation of servers (I'm still on 771)

Is that 8 core, 16 threads?

[Electronics Wizardy]

budget?

 

there is a lot more than core count, and a modern dual core is faster than a dual 771 system in basically all tasks.

 

id probably r=go r7 1700

[DildorTheDecent]

18 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

there is a lot more than core count, and a modern dual core is faster than a dual 771 system in basically all tasks.

I'd like to see the sauce for that.

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, DildorTheDecent said:

I'd like to see the sauce for that.

getting good data is hard, but 

 

Here are some numbers

 

cinebench multithreaeded

~450 on dual 771(depends on exact chips, this case was e5345)

457 on i3 7350k

 

c-ray rendering (time in sec, lower is better)

42.39 on dual x5450

37.62

 

Geekbench

~9200 on dual x5345

~10400 on the 7350k

 

 

Getting data is hard, but the i3 is often faster of about the same. 

 

[ShadowChaser]

42 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

getting good data is hard, but 

 

Here are some numbers

 

cinebench multithreaeded

~450 on dual 771(depends on exact chips, this case was e5345)

457 on i3 7350k

 

c-ray rendering (time in sec, lower is better)

42.39 on dual x5450

37.62

 

Geekbench

~9200 on dual x5345

~10400 on the 7350k

 

 

Getting data is hard, but the i3 is often faster of about the same. 

 

7350K is also $150 ish. I build my 8c8t server for the same as a single 7350K CPU. I also found that my OCed 7600K performs about the same as my server irl, but I won't be able to multitask while rendering

[FishTea]

1 hour ago, ShadowChaser said:

I'm currently using a 8 core desktop to render personal and school related videos, and I prefer to keep working while the videos are being rendered. This is an issue with my current setup as I use plenty of Adobe PS and AI and those programs eat up CPU like you wouldn't believe. I've been forced to dedicate at least 4 cores (a whole CPU!!!) to other programs while rendering and it slows down a lot. I'm considering moving to a 10 or more core server-ish build but I can't afford to go out and buy new parts. I'll likely sell my old workstation in order to fund the new one so it'll have to be able to multitask and not just a render node. 

 

What are your suggestions? I would like to go 1366 but I don't know much about that generation of servers (I'm still on 771)

what's your budget? 

 

if you can shell out some cash get a TR-1920x 

 

here are some price list from amd and they just recently cut price.

 

if your living in US, this is some killer deals

 

 

[FlatBrokeRacing]

I agree, whats the budget? Moving to a 1366 system will net you some more performance running 5650-5690 xeons but the major issue is they dont shine unless you can overclock them, and as far as i know the only dual socket X58 based overclockable board sells for more than Threadripper these days (the EVGA Classified SR-2) The next step up in older tech is a x79 system but again you lose most of the over clocking, but are on much better hardware (socket 2011-1).

 

depends on what the budget is and what you are expecting to gain.

[FlatBrokeRacing]

1 hour ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

getting good data is hard, but 

 

Here are some numbers

 

cinebench multithreaeded

~450 on dual 771(depends on exact chips, this case was e5345)

457 on i3 7350k

 

c-ray rendering (time in sec, lower is better)

42.39 on dual x5450

37.62

 

Geekbench

~9200 on dual x5345

~10400 on the 7350k

 

 

Getting data is hard, but the i3 is often faster of about the same. 

 

not sure on this, my single 5680 xeon pounds the shit out of any of the 6th gen I3's i've seen or tested.

[Damascus]

7 minutes ago, FlatBrokeRacing said:

not sure on this, my single 5680 xeon pounds the shit out of any of the 6th gen I3's i've seen or tested.

It's also 1366 not 771

 

@WhisperingKnickers knows a lost about this stuff

[FlatBrokeRacing]

@Damascus true, and tbh i cant remember the last time i've screwed around with a 771/775 system. so it is very well possible.

[NoxiousOdor]

15 minutes ago, FlatBrokeRacing said:

I agree, whats the budget? Moving to a 1366 system will net you some more performance running 5650-5690 xeons but the major issue is they dont shine unless you can overclock them, and as far as i know the only dual socket X58 based overclockable board sells for more than Threadripper these days (the EVGA Classified SR-2) The next step up in older tech is a x79 system but again you lose most of the over clocking, but are on much better hardware (socket 2011-1).

 

depends on what the budget is and what you are expecting to gain.

the 5690 as well as the 5670 and 5675 are fantastic even without overclocking. Especially if you have a dual socket right like ones I have made in the past. I personally use two of the 5690 and while I have them both overclocked I didn't use to. At stock they still are much better value than most modern cpus if you are looking for price to performance. The only downside I have seen is you do have to be sure you don't mind pulling a bit more power from the wall. Power efficiency isn't really their thing but they can still compete performance wise

[NoxiousOdor]

@ShadowChaser If you have an questions or want advice for a 1366 system please feel free to contact me, I have made several x58 systems

 

also you can find some more infor here at the x58 fan page

 

 

[Electronics Wizardy]

2 hours ago, ShadowChaser said:

7350K is also $150 ish. I build my 8c8t server for the same as a single 7350K CPU. I also found that my OCed 7600K performs about the same as my server irl, but I won't be able to multitask while rendering

the extra cores wont help you with multitasking, cpu's can switch very quickly between tasks. a quad cores i5 or simmilar will be just as fast multi tasking or faster than than the dual 771, but if you want a cheap system that has fast multithreaded id go udal lga 1366 systems or dual 2011 if you want to spend more. I have dual e5 2680 v2's and those things fly.

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 hour ago, FlatBrokeRacing said:

not sure on this, my single 5680 xeon pounds the shit out of any of the 6th gen I3's i've seen or tested.

this is 771, not 1366, 1366 hex cores where much faster than the dual 771 system. I have a few of them and there really starting to show their age now.

[ShadowChaser]

5 hours ago, zeraine00 said:

what's your budget? 

 

if you can shell out some cash get a TR-1920x 

 

here are some price list from amd and they just recently cut price.

 

if your living in US, this is some killer deals

 

 

 

4 hours ago, FlatBrokeRacing said:

I agree, whats the budget? Moving to a 1366 system will net you some more performance running 5650-5690 xeons but the major issue is they dont shine unless you can overclock them, and as far as i know the only dual socket X58 based overclockable board sells for more than Threadripper these days (the EVGA Classified SR-2) The next step up in older tech is a x79 system but again you lose most of the over clocking, but are on much better hardware (socket 2011-1).

 

depends on what the budget is and what you are expecting to gain.

The amount a TR costs is wayy out of my budget. I can't even afford x79 or newer haha. Specifically looking for a premade, decommissioned server for under 500.

 

4 hours ago, WhisperingKnickers said:

@ShadowChaser If you have an questions or want advice for a 1366 system please feel free to contact me, I have made several x58 systems

 

also you can find some more infor here at the x58 fan page

 

 

Thanks! I don't know anything about servers with 1366 boards in them, and since I really don't want to start from scratch, I'd rather start with a barebones and get a pair of Xeons and 32 GB of RAM. Is there a list of servers that support 1366 dual socket?