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I just upgraded to a 8600k and I have been getting some very high temps with my H110i GTX (80-90c under load) this is with a 5.1Ghz OC at 1.375v. I used to have a delidded 6600k that ran at 40c under load so this is new to me. I don't feel comfortable with those temps but don't want to decrease my OC. My specs are I5-8600k @5.1 Ghz 1.375 v, Asrock Z370 Gaming K6, H110i GTX, mx-5 Diamond thermal paste. I have three options

New fan's to be able to push them harder but also much quieter, what I'm asking is what kind of difference would this make and whats the best option.

New cooler, was looking at the H150 but this is a little pricey.

Send my CPU in to get delidded by silicon lottery. Last reort option because it means my computer would be offline for up to a week.

 

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Your issue lies somewhere else, the cooler should be just fine for that. I'm guessing you have a bad mount on the block or possibly your pump is failing. The delid will help but if you're getting 80+C at 1.375V then you have bad heat transfer to the block as well. Make sure the pump is running and try remounting the block.

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Well, you now have to cool two cores more, so that's where the heat comes from. Also you can just delid it yourself (maybe get a delidding tool if you want to). As pyrojoe34 already said, there also could be a mounting issue (there probably is). (you can also liquid metal everything :P (don't do it if you don't absolutely need or want to, just don't) 

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4 minutes ago, thelordofwarr said:

Well, you now have to cool two cores more, so that's where the heat comes from. Also you can just delid it yourself (maybe get a delidding tool if you want to). As pyrojoe34 already said, there also could be a mounting issue (there probably is). (you can also liquid metal everything :P (don't do it if you don't absolutely need or want to, just don't) 

 

6 minutes ago, pyrojoe34 said:

Your issue lies somewhere else, the cooler should be just fine for that. I'm guessing you have a bad mount on the block or possibly your pump is failing. The delid will help but if you're getting 80+C at 1.375V then you have bad heat transfer to the block as well. Make sure the pump is running and try remounting the block.

Okay thanks guys, 

I’ll try to remount, I’ll keep you updated on the results. 

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8 minutes ago, thelordofwarr said:

you can also liquid metal everything

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even the interior of a power supply.....

Another thing I would check is that the cooler has enough airflow(I'd assume it does, but worth checking anyway).

 

Definitely check the pump though.

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1 minute ago, Crunchy Dragon said:
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even the interior of a power supply.....

Another thing I would check is that the cooler has enough airflow(I'd assume it does, but worth checking anyway).

 

Definitely check the pump though.

(off topic: Of course you can, and you forgot the interior of a running powersupply xD)

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Honestly, if you have experience performing a delid in the past... you should take the time to delid your current chip too. Once you see the 25-30c temp drop this normally can bring. Then your temps will be much more acceptable.

 

With the current TIM intel is using and their process not being very effective on keeping the silicon adhesive consistent this has become an almost necessity to reach decent overclock and keep temps at a reasonable level.

 

I just wish they would go back to soldering the IHS on. I mean I still have a 2600k that I can overclock to 5ghz without much issue. This is on a chip that was only boosting to 3.8. 

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So I tried a remount with no difference. Checked the pumped and it seems to be working at full power. I downloaded Prime95 and did a test and my temp skyrockets to 100c instantly and I start thermal throttling. Could this be something in the BIOS I have seen some people talking about something adding alot of heat but never looked into it. It just seems really odd that a 130$ cooler can't keep this chip from thermal throttling. Will run at stock speeds to see temps as well. Could it be possible that this chip just has really bad heat transfer to the IHS in which case I would have to delid to get the temps down?

 

At stock speeds (4.0Ghz) I'm hitting 75-80c.

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4 hours ago, NVIDIAFANBOYEXTREME said:

So I tried a remount with no difference. Checked the pumped and it seems to be working at full power. I downloaded Prime95 and did a test and my temp skyrockets to 100c instantly and I start thermal throttling. Could this be something in the BIOS I have seen some people talking about something adding alot of heat but never looked into it. It just seems really odd that a 130$ cooler can't keep this chip from thermal throttling. Will run at stock speeds to see temps as well. Could it be possible that this chip just has really bad heat transfer to the IHS in which case I would have to delid to get the temps down?

 

At stock speeds (4.0Ghz) I'm hitting 75-80c.

Well 5.1 GHz is quite a hefty overclock even for a 8600k, so it could be that the die to IHS contact is the thermal bottleneck. Also, the temps jumping to 100 C instantly support this hypothesis. If the temps climbed there in say 2+ mins then it would just be the case of not enough cooling power. I would try deliding in your situation, otherwise you should lower your oc a bit.

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3 hours ago, Tam3n said:

Well 5.1 GHz is quite a hefty overclock even for a 8600k, so it could be that the die to IHS contact is the thermal bottleneck. Also, the temps jumping to 100 C instantly support this hypothesis. If the temps climbed there in say 2+ mins then it would just be the case of not enough cooling power. I would try deliding in your situation, otherwise you should lower your oc a bit.

Alright I’ll try to delid for now I’ll bump it down a bit. How terrifying/ dangerous is delidding and what’s the best tool out there for this? Thanks 

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You’re not far off what I. Seeing with h100iv2 8700k @5ghz, 1.35v

 

from watching some gamers-nexus videos I understand that they all do this without Delidding.

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So I just completed my delid and I'm seeing great temps with a 5.2Ghz Oc. I was thermal throttling before now I'm sitting at around 70c flat. When I took my IHS off it had little to no thermal compound on it which shocked me. 

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