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Hey, I was wondering what to do after a solid session on the pc, should I be putting it to sleep or completely shut it down. (concerned about life of pc)

P.S I have an integrated power button on the top of the case. 

P.P.S I am in school so I don't get back on for at least 15+ hours.

 

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Don't be concerned about life span if it's idle. I usually just leave mine on all the time. About 1-3 months at a time until windows update manages to reboot it or the power goes out

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4 minutes ago, MAx133 said:

Hey, I was wondering what to do after a solid session on the pc, should I be putting it to sleep or completely shut it down. (concerned about life of pc)

P.S I have an integrated power button on the top of the case. 

P.P.S I am in school so I don't get back on for at least 15+ hours.

 

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If you're gone for that long of a time and you don't have any work that needs to be saved I would just shut it down.

 

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I say it's better for the computer if you just leave it on all the time. My instructor for my computer class who has been working for HP for 25years also says the same. Turning it off and back on wears down the whole system because each time you power it on, it's a mini surge to the system. 

 

If you'd be worried about power consumption and a spike in electricity bill prices, your system should be barely using any power at all idling. Most computers are pretty efficient today. 

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Well, I have done a shut down basically every day for 5 years on my computer and it is still completely fine.

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Just now, Windspeed36 said:

I know right - that shit gets turned off at the wall..

I mean, I'm fine with the 1.5w or so my desktop pulls in sleep mode, but considering it takes a LOT more idle, you better believe that it, my laptop, and my HTPCs are asleep or off when I'm not using them.  Not to mention the summer, the more your PCs are running, the more heat, so the more power you put into air conditioning on top of that.

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23 minutes ago, AshleyAshes said:

I mean, I'm fine with the 1.5w or so my desktop pulls in sleep mode, but considering it takes a LOT more idle, you better believe that it, my laptop, and my HTPCs are asleep or off when I'm not using them.  Not to mention the summer, the more your PCs are running, the more heat, so the more power you put into air conditioning on top of that.

It's not just the PC in sleep mode though - monitor, speakers. Look at that across 3 PC's in the house plus the home theater system. You're starting to look at a 60w+ bulb being on 24/7, looking at $35 a quarter in power that you don't actually use..

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I'd shut it down or put it in hibernate mode. It won't damage anything when it turns on, and I've been doing it ever since I started using computers.

 

Plus, hibernate mode saves everything to the hard drive instead of the RAM, so if the power happens to go out, nothing will be lost. It's faster than shutting the PC down as well.

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4 minutes ago, Windspeed36 said:

It's not just the PC in sleep mode though - monitor, speakers. Look at that across 3 PC's in the house plus the home theater system. You're starting to look at a 60w+ bulb being on 24/7, looking at $35 a quarter in power that you don't actually use..

Well, no, it's def not adding up to 60w.

Both HTPCs idle at about 1.5w, the 3 PC monitors stand by at 1w, the 65" TV sleeps at 1w.  It's more like 9.5w, that's a lot less than 60w. o.O

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3 minutes ago, AshleyAshes said:

Well, no, it's def not adding up to 60w.

Both HTPCs idle at about 1.5w, the 3 PC monitors stand by at 1w, the 65" TV sleeps at 1w.  It's more like 9.5w, that's a lot less than 60w. o.O

I missed out that I'm also counting an Airport Express, Apple TV, printer and some other stuff.

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Just now, Windspeed36 said:

I missed out that I'm also counting an Airport Express, Apple TV, printer and some other stuff.

Well, I mean, I do have a server that idles at about 60w (More like 120w if the drives are all spinning) that I do keep running 24/7 but it handles downloads and other critical services all day.  So that DOES eat power but it's a fair bit more efficnet having all that in one machine.  But as a result I keep my network gear running too obviosly.

But anyway, the crux, and where we both agree, is that even just sleeping, OR doing more, your electronics can save a considerable amount of power consumption.  Especially if, being idle, your computers aren't actually DOING anything for you.

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1 hour ago, AshleyAshes said:

Don't any of you pay electrical bills? :/

Well, I dont. But even if I did, I would leave the pc on 24/7.

 

The monitor goes to sleep, and my pc on idle should pull like 30-45w

 

Which is money ofc, but not really relevant - which is relevant is the INCREASED lifespam that I get. I live near the beach, and when left off some sea salt tends to acumulate and cause pc death in some time. Since leaving it on ALWAYS, my pc lives 2-3x more. Totally worth it.

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2 hours ago, BuckGup said:

Don't be concerned about life span if it's idle. I usually just leave mine on all the time. About 1-3 months at a time until windows update manages to reboot it or the power goes out

Agreed, I never, EVER turn off my PC unless I can't help it (unless I'm gone for, like, weeks or even months on end).

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1 hour ago, Windspeed36 said:

It's not just the PC in sleep mode though - monitor, speakers. Look at that across 3 PC's in the house plus the home theater system. You're starting to look at a 60w+ bulb being on 24/7, looking at $35 a quarter in power that you don't actually use..

Um you sure about those numbers I came up with $52.57 per year for a 60 watt bulb on 24/7 of course if your cranking the generator by hand you may factor in your hourly ratexD

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3 hours ago, BadluckBrian said:

I say it's better for the computer if you just leave it on all the time. My instructor for my computer class who has been working for HP for 25years also says the same. Turning it off and back on wears down the whole system because each time you power it on, it's a mini surge to the system.

Unless you were planning on using the same exact PC as the workhorse for 10+ years, that wear and tear isn't going to matter.

 

It's like saying you should leave your car on all the time because starting it up is stressful.

 

EDIT: The ultimate form of death for most electronics comes from electromigration, which is a physical degradation of the tiny conductors in ICs. Electromigration is caused by, wait for it... electrons moving through the system.

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50 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

Unless you were planning on using the same exact PC as the workhorse for 10+ years, that wear and tear isn't going to matter.

 

It's like saying you should leave your car on all the time because starting it up is stressful.

 

EDIT: The ultimate form of death for most electronics comes from electromigration, which is a physical degradation of the tiny conductors in ICs. Electromigration is caused by, wait for it... electrons moving through the system.

I'm not arguing the very use of the system degrades itself, that's how everything works. But the low cost to just keep it at idle 24/7 isnt a good argument to constantly turn it off and on when you want to use it. Cars are expensive to keep running 24/7. And they emit gas, computers don't. (yes I know powerplants make steam and whatever bakabakabaka) I use my systems for a very long time,my main laptop is on its 8th year. 

 

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4 minutes ago, BadluckBrian said:

I'm not arguing the very use of the system degrades itself, that's how everything works. But the low cost to just keep it at idle 24/7 isnt a good argument to constantly turn it off and on when you want to use it. Cars are expensive to keep running 24/7. And they emit gas, computers don't. (yes I know powerplants make steam and whatever bakabakabaka) I use my systems for a very long time,my main laptop is on its 8th year.

So because something is cheap means it's okay to be wasteful to prevent something that's practically a non-issue?

 

The thing with component failures is nobody has done any real formal study on the matter. For all intents and purposes, ICs have a lifespan of "indefinite".

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Just now, M.Yurizaki said:

So because something is cheap means it's okay to be wasteful to prevent something that's practically a non-issue?

The energy plants will still be making electricity regardless if you keep your PC on or not, that's my argument. And a few extra watts wont change their job in the slightest. I've no idea what else to respond with, the waste is insignificant. 

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i would turn mine off every day, but i have it setup to record and convert live TV while im gone so i cant

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