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LLC (load line calibration). Is this setting okay?

So, I reduced the LLC with my asus maximus vii hero and i7 4790k to level 2 in order to reduce temps.

I'm not noticing any vdroop. The voltages aren't dropping under load and I'm maintaining my CPU frequency no problem.

Am I losing anything else by having a low LLC setting?

Will I maybe only notice vdroop under a light load instead of a heavy one?

I'd like to understand this better if anyone has any info.

Turning it down low makes a substantial difference in temps so unless there's some reason I should keep it on auto, I'm going to keep it this way.

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With my 4770k llc didn't do anything at all vcore was solid even at 4.8ghz

so dint worry

if u don't need it at all that's perfect 

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You'd need a heavy load to see if you have vdroop.

 

LLC is to prevent vdroop while under load. The main issue would be random blue screens or just powering off.

 

I use LLC, but I have an R7 1700x at 3.9 and dual GPU. I would occasionally have vdroop when the GPU's ramp up from idle.

 

Otherwise, you'll be fine.

 

What is your cooling system?

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LLC is only needed when you turn off C-states and dont want the CPU get too much voltage at idle. That's it

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Ebony Falcon said:

With my 4770k llc didn't do anything at all vcore was solid even at 4.8ghz

so dint worry

if u don't need it at all that's perfect 

Cool, congrats on getting to 4.8.

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Just now, Ryujin2003 said:

You'd need a heavy load to see if you have vdroop.

 

LLC is to prevent vdroop while under load. The main issue would be random blue screens or just powering off.

 

I use LLC, but I have an R7 1700x at 3.9 and dual GPU. I would occasionally have vdroop when the GPU's ramp up from idle.

 

Otherwise, you'll be fine.

 

What is your cooling system?

Fractal Design s36. A 360 AIO.

 

Okay, since it passed a 24 hour AIDA64 test while maintaining it's frequency, I guess I'm fine to leave it off then.

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

LLC is only needed when you turn off C-states and dont want the CPU get too much voltage at idle. That's it

LLC seems to add voltage under load. The lower the setting, the less voltage it adds. That's my experience. I'm not sure about the idle end of it.

 

 

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1 minute ago, stateofpsychosis said:

LLC seems to add voltage under load. The lower the setting, the less voltage it adds. That's my experience. I'm not sure about the idle end of it.

 

When LLC isnt used and C-state is turned off, the voltage under load will be too low while being safe at idle. When it is used, it helps increase voltage under load without getting unsafe voltage at idle. 

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

When LLC isnt used and C-state is turned off, the voltage under load will be too low while being safe at idle. When it is used, it helps increase voltage under load without getting unsafe voltage at idle. 

Well, I've got C-states, turbo and all of that turned on, but the LLC on a level 2.

My voltage actually doesn't decrease at all at idle right now.

I'm still getting used to this complicated bios and haven't found the setting to fix that yet so I guess I won't know if I have a problem until I do :P

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