server vs consumer Server grade Vs Consumer grade Hardware

[TheGodlyJorts]

So I've watched linus tech tips for a while now and he has stated that last-gen server grade hardware is nearly as good as the newest generation of consumer hardware.

 

Questions

1) is Thye above statement true? (yes, I meant to use thye )

 

2) Is there a good website to compare server and consumer hardware against each other?

 

           2a) Is there a good website for comparing all computer hardware?

 

Thanks You,

TheGodlyJorts

[dcgreen2k]

1. Sometimes. I don't have too much experience with server hardware.

2. userbenchmark.com and cpuboss.com

2a. ^^^ + gpuboss.com

[TheGodlyJorts]

Just now, thegreengamers said:

1. Sometimes. I don't have too much experience with server hardware.

2. userbenchmark.com and cpuboss.com

Ok thanks, man, I'll check out those websites.

[Canada EH]

22 minutes ago, TheGodlyJorts said:

So I've watched linus tech tips for a while now and he has stated that last-gen server grade hardware is nearly as good as the newest generation of consumer hardware.

 

Questions

1) is Thye above statement true? (yes, I meant to use thye )

 

2) Is there a good website to compare server and consumer hardware against each other?

 

           2a) Is there a good website for comparing all computer hardware?

 

 

Yes last gen stuff is just fine.

cpubenchmark website is good for cpus and gpus

 

just buy a used 4th gen intel they are cheap! Like $200 for a 4gen i5, a bit more for 4th gen i7.

Cant beat the price compared to new or build your own.

 

[TheGodlyJorts]

1 minute ago, Canada EH said:

Yes last gen stuff is just fine.

cpubenchmark website is good for cpus and gpus

 

ok, thanks!

[LienusLateTips]

2 minutes ago, thegreengamers said:

1. Sometimes. I don't have too much experience with server hardware.

2. userbenchmark.com and cpuboss.com

2a. ^^^ + gpuboss.com

CPUBoss and GPUBoss is just straight up false facts, and userbenchmark doesn't care about clock speed.

 

Userbenchmark generally works for vauge comparisons though.

 

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21 minutes ago, TheGodlyJorts said:

So I've watched linus tech tips for a while now and he has stated that last-gen server grade hardware is nearly as good as the newest generation of consumer hardware.

 

Questions

1) is Thye above statement true? (yes, I meant to use thye )

 

2) Is there a good website to compare server and consumer hardware against each other?

 

           2a) Is there a good website for comparing all computer hardware?

 

Thanks You,

TheGodlyJorts

1. No, at least most of the time

2. Most server hardware is just rebranded consumer with server grade reliability, and the higher end chips are terrible for gaming/consumer tasks anyway

2a. Benchmark sites, but if you want a vague comparison userbenchmark will work

[Canada EH]

Look at this

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-4670-vs-Intel-Core-i5-7400/m630vs3886

 

So $200 buckaroons or $700+

I will save my money TYVM!

Used PC is the only way to go!

 

 

Refurbished: Dell Optiplex 9020 SFF i5-4590 3.30GHz 4GB 160GB Win 7 Pro 1 Yr Wty$194

just slap in an extra 4Gb of ram, and a HDD

 

 

 

[dcgreen2k]

15 minutes ago, JDE said:

CPUBoss and GPUBoss is just straight up false facts, and userbenchmark doesn't care about clock speed.

They've always worked for me at giving a rough comparison, although the benchmarks, especially those for CPUs, are questionable. What do you mean about it not caring about clock speed?

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, thegreengamers said:

They've always worked for me, although the benchmarks, especially those for CPUs, is questionable. What do you mean about it not caring about clock speed.

CPUBoss and GPUBoss doesn't base off facts

 

Userbenchmark doesn't care if you used a R7 1700 downclocked to 1GhZ w/ 2133 RAM and 1 core, or a R7 1700 overclocked to 7GhZ with LN2 and DDR4-4200.

[thorhammerz]

1 hour ago, thegreengamers said:

What do you mean about it not caring about clock speed?

It means that all the benchmark results are aggregated without further differentiation / segmentation to factor in overclockers and people who run things at stock speeds (e.g. the results from a 3.4 GHz Ryzen will be lumped into the same pool of results as a 4.0 GHz chip).

 

This wouldn't be a problem if the population of users who submitted a result are representative of the overall user population (e.g. everyone who bought that particular chip), however a large proportion of people who submit bench results are likely to be overclocking enthusiasts than not, meaning the numbers end up being skewed towards the higher end of things.

[SupaKomputa]

What do want to compare? Motherboard / Processors?

Most of the times server grade is just a re-badge consumer product with added value like more lan ports / memory slots or better technical support.

Server grade hardware lean more to durability / reliability than speed and accessories.

That's why you won't see overclocking options in server motherboards.

 

Server grade mobo:

- thicker PCB

- better quality capacitors

- More lan ports

- Different chipset with ECC support

- More memory slots

- Multiple CPU sockets

 

Server grade CPU (Intel Xeon / AMD Epyc):

- ECC memory support

- More than 64 gb memory support (vs 64gb in i7/ryzen)

- Higher core / threads count

- Lower clock speed & TDP, for lower power consumption

- Higher l2 / l3 cache

- Locked fsb & multiplier / no OC

- No build-in gpu

 

Server grade memory:
- Error checking and corrections function (ECC)

- Slower speed.

 

Server grade ssd

- Use SLC / MLC chips, higher durability, longer mean time to failure

- Slower overall bandwidth

 

Quote

last-gen server grade hardware is nearly as good as the newest generation of consumer 

He may be referring to speed

[asand1]

Server CPUs are higher binned for lower voltages and temps at a given workload/clock speed. If you can find a server CPU at the clock speed you need then it will be better than it's consumer counterpart. 

 

As an example, the 1366 Xeon CPUs OC higher and run cooler than the fist gen i7s.