Will a Ryzen 5 1600 Bottleneck a GTX 1080?

[Princess Luna]

Yes and No, fine for low refresh rate high quality, bad for high refresh rate lower quality.

 

9 hours ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

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I also really like this one:

As stated it depends on the user, if he wants Ryzen 5 1600 I'd step down to the GTX 1070 Ti or an used GTX 980 Ti to be more balanced [:

[i_build_nanosuits]

18 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

I also really like this one:

As stated it depends on the user, if he wants Ryzen 5 1600 I'd step down to the GTX 1070 Ti or an used GTX 980 Ti to be more balanced [:

good video, if you are after high-end gaming performance with expensive graphics cards and monitor(s)...or even VR...i would not get amd.

personally i would try to swing for this and be in the zone for a couple years

 

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the AMD option is also nice and i think it's still enough to get a nice gaming experience with a GTX 1080...but in the long run an intel i5-8600K or i7-8700 is a better bet imo

 

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[i_build_nanosuits]

in fact, i think i would get something like this instead...

 

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[Princess Luna]

Me personally:

 

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If you want a powerful video card that is what you should aim, otherwise like I said step down on the GPU.

[AtomicWaveBlast]

20 hours ago, xg32 said:

depends on the game u play, there are many games a ryzen wont run at 144hz, wait for zen+ or go with a 8700

already have a r5 1600

 

9 hours ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

if you care about rendering more than 60 frames per second, then yeah you're leaving a fair bit on the table even compared to a 7700K in games..

 

the 8700 and 8700K CPU's are even better to the point where it's worth to spend more money on them if you have a high refresh rate 1440p monitor with Gsync and stuff..

I have a am4 board so kinda cant upgrade to intel

 

9 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

Yes and No, fine for low refresh rate high quality, bad for high refresh rate lower quality.

144htz medium 

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, AtomicWaveBlast said:

144htz medium 

Definitely Coffee Lake now, Ryzen won't do 144hz very well.

[Guest]

On 1/18/2018 at 6:48 PM, AtomicWaveBlast said:

Will a Ryzen 5 1600 Bottleneck a GTX 1080?

I own a 1700 and a 1080 and in some games i do actually have a GPU bottleneck like in far cry 4 and primal but its still smooth and everything at over 70+fps at 1440P but GPU usage does not max out, same can be said for GTA5 but then again even a 7700K at 5ghz can't keep a 1080 at 99% usage 100% of the time. 

 

Also in Fallout 4 i noticed slightly slower performance with my 1080 then i did with my 4790K at 4.7ghz but not by much. 

 

Newer games i notice way smoother performance so that can be my experience. In older titles Ryzen performs like an OC sandy-ivy bridge chip. 

 

19 hours ago, Frankieanime158 said:

No, it won't. The 1600 can carry a 1080ti even. The statement of 'it bottlenecks if you want frames passed 100' is technically untrue. Yes, the CPU is incapable of the insanely high frame rates of an intel CPU, but that doesn't mean it's bottlenecking the GPU. The gpu will still run at 100%, doing every bit it can. A bottleneck would be seeing a GPU run at 40-50% when really it should be hitting 100%. That means the CPU is incapable of letting the GPU fully stretch it's legs.

Your fps will be buttersmooth, the cpu will definitely not bottleneck a 1080.

This is not true and i can demonstrate that in a video unless you max out the graphic settings to make the GPU hit 99% usage but if you want to get 100fps or more and run games at high instead of ultra since it looks almost as good in most cases but gets you more performance GPU usage will drop below 99% usage.

[Emberstone]

11 hours ago, Frankieanime158 said:

Yes, the CPU is incapable of the insanely high frame rates of an intel CPU, but that doesn't mean it's bottlenecking the GPU. The gpu will still run at 100%

That's not how it works. The CPU is what is wholly responsible for telling the GPU to do its work. If the CPU can't keep up with the GPU's full capacity for work in the software you're running, then the GPU won't run at 100%.

 

There are some unique cases where this isn't completely applicable, but overall this is how the relationship between the CPU and GPU behaves in gaming.

[AtomicWaveBlast]

4 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

Definitely Coffee Lake now, Ryzen won't do 144hz very well.

Have an am4 board........... not going to intel

[Emberstone]

6 minutes ago, AtomicWaveBlast said:

Have an am4 board........... not going to intel

Well, then you've got a few options: grab the 1080 and expect a some bottlenecking of you're at 1080p, or you could save yourself a bit of cash if you are and grab a 1070 or 1070 Ti.

 

Ryzen+ is likely to remedy Ryzen's current issues in some capacity, so you could grab a cheapo Ryzen now and grab one of those later. If you wanted to do this and be extra cheap, you could get an Athlon x4 950. But you'd be living with an awful CPU for a few months

[Princess Luna]

4 minutes ago, AtomicWaveBlast said:

Have an am4 board........... not going to intel

then asking is pointless just get the 1600 chip lol, if you're wondering if a 7 1800x will magically solve the high refresh bottleneck you're mistaken, these processors all perform identically clock for clock, games really won't use more than the ryzen 5, 6 cores.

[Morgan MLGman]

6 hours ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

if you care about rendering more than 60 frames per second, then yeah you're leaving a fair bit on the table even compared to a 7700K in games..

 

the 8700 and 8700K CPU's are even better to the point where it's worth to spend more money on them if you have a high refresh rate 1440p monitor with Gsync and stuff..

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To be fair, that video proves that an R5 1600 is slower than an i7-7700K by 6% at 1080p and 1-2% at 1440p so I'd say it's pretty damn close Not sure if you'd get noticeably more out of a GTX 1080 with an i7-8700 for instance (which is quite a bit more expensive)

[Darkseth]

On 19.1.2018 at 1:48 AM, AtomicWaveBlast said:

Will a Ryzen 5 1600 Bottleneck a GTX 1080?

Depends 100% on your software and your settings.

Without knowing those, this Answer can NOT be answered by any means.

[LienusLateTips]

Hell no, you'll be fine

[Phentos]

As said many times earlier, the 1600 will hold the 1080 back a bit when it comes to 144hz gaming. Many esports or other competitive multiplayer games may struggle to reach 144+ FPS in many situations, but the framerate will definitely never drop low enough to make the game objectively unplayable.

 

On a personal note I don't give a crap about high refresh gaming as I can't notice the difference visually (tried my friend's 165hz panel) and I don't play esports or other competitive games anymore to begin with, other than PUBG. For me, ultra settings at higher resolutions or DSR > super high framerates.

[NicholasNicholasNicholas]

On 1/18/2018 at 4:48 PM, AtomicWaveBlast said:

Will a Ryzen 5 1600 Bottleneck a GTX 1080?

at 1080p? depends on the game. most will be gpu bound though. at 1440p+? never

[Princess Luna]

6 hours ago, Phentos said:

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It is not a bit it is a lot truth be told, what people fail to consider is that OP might prefer to reduce the video quality in the game settings to achieve higher refresh rate, all the assumptions here that the Ryzen 5 1600 barely bottlenecks at 1440p are off the believe he would max out the graphical quality shifting the most workload to the GPU... in this case say play at 60fps all ultras then yes the Ryzen 5 1600 is appropriated but OP has a 144hz monitor and if he wants to play his games at 144fps he has o reduce the graphical quality a bit... but then he runs into a CPU bottleneck instead.

 

I'm just trying to show the other side of the coin.

[epsilon84]

Technically, yes, it will bottleneck it slightly at 1080P, especially if you don't overclock the CPU.

 

Is it the end of the world? No. You'll still get good framerates in all games.