APPLE under French Regulator investigation for iphone 'planned obsolescence'

[Spenser1337]

18 hours ago, arnavvr said:

This is really stupid. Apple is a private business, and therefore they should be able to do what they want with the devices that they produce. Also, it can't be planned obsolescence as once a new battery is added to an older device, the performance would be restored back to the original speed.

Wow, that was retarded 

[PocketNerd]

I hate Apple just as much as the next guy but holy shit, THIS WASN'T PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE!!

This is legit spooking me into not developing a hardware or software product, because apparently no matter what you do you'll still get shit on. Could they have done a better job communicating it up front? Sure. But what would you prefer, a phone that turns into a brick due to a degraded/damaged (but still useable) battery or one that still works but is a little slower until you can get it repaired or replaced?

[Valentyn]

19 hours ago, mark_cameron said:

 

In which case Apple will need to justify why they removed support for devices that arguably were still in their lifecycle.

I don't see anyone going after Google, Samsung, Moto, One Plus and others for not giving software updates after 5 years anymore.
Oh wait, One Plus and other's don't even give android updates after 2 years often for their devices.
 

I'm still Salty about how crap my One Plus One became little over a year after it was released; and their support was appalling.

[mr moose]

5 hours ago, PocketNerd said:

because apparently no matter what you do you'll still get shit on.

This is the reality of consumers today.   Build a fast CPU but turns out it has bugs fuck you Intel.  Code a software patch to secure the hole, turns out it causes issues on old hardware, Fuck you MS, make a phone with a battery too small you get sued, make the battery bigger battery and everyone says fuck you it's too big. 

 

 

[kokakolia]

8 hours ago, Valentyn said:

I don't see anyone going after Google, Samsung, Moto, One Plus and others for not giving software updates after 5 years anymore.
Oh wait, One Plus and other's don't even give android updates after 2 years often for their devices.
 

I'm still Salty about how crap my One Plus One became little over a year after it was released; and their support was appalling.

I am so salty over my Nexus 4 for the same reasons. It was the "Flagship Killer" of 2012. 1 year later it got significantly slower with updates and then 3 years later it became a paperweight. 

[Dabombinable]

19 minutes ago, kokakolia said:

I am so salty over my Nexus 4 for the same reasons. It was the "Flagship Killer" of 2012. 1 year later it got significantly slower with updates and then 3 years later it became a paperweight. 

You mean Nexus 1 (that's the 2012 Nexus). And mine was running perfectly even before its factory reset (it was in fact running better than my Transformer TF201 and its replacement TF700).

[mr moose]

17 minutes ago, kokakolia said:

I am so salty over my Nexus 4 for the same reasons. It was the "Flagship Killer" of 2012. 1 year later it got significantly slower with updates and then 3 years later it became a paperweight. 

I don;t buy flagship phones for 3 reasons:

1, I don't buy on plans, contracts or credit. It's outright unlocked or not at all.

2. When comparing it to buying a $130 phone every year, the average flagship has to perform without issue for at least 5 years to be better priced.

3. With tech evolving so fast, after 3 years it is not better value and I am spending $100+ a year for a phone that is likely lacking equivalent features (to a current mid level phone) and most likely has a cracked screen.

[kirashi]

On 1/8/2018 at 5:00 PM, Dabombinable said:

Since the iPad 2 is still getting updates (and that tablet competed with my 2012 Transformer TF201), it should:
http://www.techradar.com/news/ios-11-compatibility-list-does-it-work-with-your-iphone-and-ipad

 

Edit: Note that I still keep up with iOS updates due to my aunt's iPad 2, iPhone 4, iPhone 5s and brother's iPad mini with touch id.

On 1/8/2018 at 5:03 PM, Dabombinable said:

No, it doesn't. Follow the link

Followed the link. The iPad Air 2 is still getting updates. iPad 2 stopped at iOS 9.0 so I'm not sure where I'm supposed to be looking.

 

[kokakolia]

13 hours ago, mr moose said:

I don;t buy flagship phones for 3 reasons:

1, I don't buy on plans, contracts or credit. It's outright unlocked or not at all.

2. When comparing it to buying a $130 phone every year, the average flagship has to perform without issue for at least 5 years to be better priced.

3. With tech evolving so fast, after 3 years it is not better value and I am spending $100+ a year for a phone that is likely lacking equivalent features (to a current mid level phone) and most likely has a cracked screen.

Amen. 

 

Since my lukewarm experience with the Nexus 4, I stuck to cheap phones. I tried various phones like the Moto G which actually impressed me considering the mediocre specs, the $50 Blu Advance 5.0 HD which was pretty darn impressive considering the price but cut too many corners. Its performance was sluggish and the speakers tinny. And now I'm using a Zuk Z2

[mr moose]

58 minutes ago, kokakolia said:

Amen. 

 

Since my lukewarm experience with the Nexus 4, I stuck to cheap phones. I tried various phones like the Moto G which actually impressed me considering the mediocre specs, the $50 Blu Advance 5.0 HD which was pretty darn impressive considering the price but cut too many corners. Its performance was sluggish and the speakers tinny. And now I'm using a Zuk Z2

And you get to buy a new phone every year or two knowing you are still spending less.   So if you buy a dud at best you are out of pocket $100 for that year (big deal), at worst you suffer a poor phone for 12 months.

[kokakolia]

25 minutes ago, mr moose said:

And you get to buy a new phone every year or two knowing you are still spending less.   So if you buy a dud at best you are out of pocket $100 for that year (big deal), at worst you suffer a poor phone for 12 months.

Yup. I never really got past owning a phone for a year though. That's kind of my fault, I'll admit it. Considering that I spent $200 on the Zuk, I'll have to use it for 2 years to make it "worth it".