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8600k vs 8700

BishopGM

Ive bought all the rig last thing i need to order in the cpu but i was very confused.....

got the money for the i5 but if its worth it im willing to go for the non k i7.

the pc is purely for gaming at 1440p 144hz......

the i7 8700k is really overpriced where i live so its out of the question

i got the be quiet dark rock 3 so cooling these cpus i dont think is gonna be a problem

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If it were Linus answering this, he would tell you to get the i5 Coffee Lake if it were strictly for gaming. If it were me, you can even step down to the i3 quad-core Coffee Lake (equivalent to an i5 Kaby Lake) to save a few bucks; I doubt it would make a big enough difference.

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Just now, nelsonpong said:

If it were Linus answering this, he would tell you to get the i5 Coffee Lake if it were strictly for gaming. If it were me, you can even step down to the i3 quad-core Coffee Lake (equivalent to an i5 Kaby Lake) to save a few bucks; I doubt it would make a big enough difference.

ye the i3 would be just a perfect step up for the i5 4690k that i have but i already got the money so its fine.....

also i wouldnt be very proud having an i3 with the gtx 1080 xD

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8700 of course. If you squeeze an 8600k to have 8700-level of performance it will generate more heat and use more power than an 8700. Besides, resale value will be higher as users of later B and H motherboards will treat this as the top CPU they can get.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

8700 of course. If you squeeze an 8600k to have 8700-level of performance it will generate more heat and use more power than an 8700. Besides, resale value will be higher as users of later B and H motherboards will treat this as the top CPU they can get.

resale value doesnt matter to me cause whenever i get something new the old stuff goes to my little brother xD.......the thing is that in benchmarks these 2 (i5 without oc) get about the same fps ocing it to 4.8 or 5 isnt really hard and i think that that will benefit me cause at 1440p getting at 144hz/fps isnt really easy for games other than esports titles 

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I just finished my coffee lake build and was faced with the same choice. If ya look at bench marks there almost the same with 8700 having a 10 + fps lead in only a few games so for the extra coin and having to wait even longer to get it I just got the 8600 and it's just fine and $180 cheaper were I am

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2 minutes ago, Haydz72 said:

I just finished my coffee lake build and was faced with the same choice. If ya look at bench marks there almost the same with 8700 having a 10 + fps lead in only a few games so for the extra coin and having to wait even longer to get it I just got the 8600 and it's just fine and $180 cheaper were I am

damn 10fps is a good number to lose ......idk what to do 

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It's not really when ya already getting 120+ look on youtube for hardware unboxed he has same great benchmark that might help

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40 minutes ago, BishopGM said:

resale value doesnt matter to me cause whenever i get something new the old stuff goes to my little brother xD.......the thing is that in benchmarks these 2 (i5 without oc) get about the same fps ocing it to 4.8 or 5 isnt really hard and i think that that will benefit me cause at 1440p getting at 144hz/fps isnt really easy for games other than esports titles 

Dont worry about that still. If it's not a esports title then OC 8600k to 5GHz will make no difference to stock speeds because the graphics card is what limits the frame rates at that point.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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8700 for 120hz, 8600k for 60hz

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I have 8600k and it's perfect for gaming. MMORPG games benefit the most out of it since it has 6 strong cores.

Multi-threaded speed can be compared to i7 7700k + 20 or 30%.

So even if you want to game and stream and the same time, that won't be a problem.

 

8700 is decent CPU aswell, but it does lack the ability to overclock.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-8700-vs-Intel-Core-i5-8600K/3940vs3941

 

8700 will be better in multi-threading score and is great if you play optimized games + stream.

But like I said ... I don't see any problems with my i5 8600k clocked at 4,8GHz (all those chips can be clocked at least that far).

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In most games, an overclocked 8600K @ 5GHz would beat a stock 8700. That being said, 1440P is mostly GPU bound so you'll be hard pressed to notice any difference between the two. 

 

In fact, if you wanted to save some money I would say that even an i5 8400 would be more than enough for a GTX 1080

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3 hours ago, nelsonpong said:

If it were Linus answering this, he would tell you to get the i5 Coffee Lake if it were strictly for gaming. If it were me, you can even step down to the i3 quad-core Coffee Lake (equivalent to an i5 Kaby Lake) to save a few bucks; I doubt it would make a big enough difference.

If it were me, I would step it down to g4600 and gtx 1050 ti

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Well the i7 8700 is identical to the i7 8700k at stock, only 100mhz difference in single core turbo and same all core turbo.

 

With that said the stock i7 is faster than the overclocked i5 as it has always been and quite frankly only at 1080p overclocking the i7 makes a difference:

 

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I'd say get the 8700. I game at 1440p 165Hz and my 1080 Ti can't give me the fps I need because it's being strangled by my 4.2 Ghz 3570k.

8700k @5.0GHz | Maximus X Hero | RAM 32GB @3200MHz CL14 | 1080 TI | SSD 250GB + 2x500GB Raid 0 | Monitor 1440p 165Hz ISP

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8700 for sure because of the hyperthreading. It doesn't matter too much right now but 2 years in the future ... who knows - we might get games that utilise more than 6 threads (as it happened for the 4c/4t cpus this year).

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50 minutes ago, A_Mediocre_Kangaroo_Farmer said:

I'd say get the 8700. I game at 1440p 165Hz and my 1080 Ti can't give me the fps I need because it's being strangled by my 4.2 Ghz 3570k.

First off. What game? second.. how did you figure that out.. i am running a 5 year old i7 and even in PUBG i have only used 50-60% of CPU total

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